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Guest Kroshak

Really good warrior to begin with, meaning you dont want to invest money or you dont have a lot of gold, but lately the thunderclap build has been way popular than the hamer time one

 

maybe with a Johanna at his side could be even more hilarious with the thunderclap build, damn thats a punishig front line against an auto attack team

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Couldn't agree more. With Muradin you get a lot of power for your money. 

 

The Thunderclap build is very rewarding and easier to execute, however, I wouldn't count the Storm Bolt Build out just yet. I hope you enjoyed the guide, let us know how well the talent builds went for you! 

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Couldn't agree more. With Muradin you get a lot of power for your money.

The Thunderclap build is very rewarding and easier to execute, however, I wouldn't count the Storm Bolt Build out just yet. I hope you enjoyed the guide, let us know how well the talent builds went for you!

Its fun, i mean cmon its MURADIN. Beign a dwarf with the master armor from icc its like an extra, tbh him costing 2k its like wayy too good

And yeah the hammer time build its not out but the players go with the hive mind and pick up the most succesful

Really rewarding hero i dont question that and you can go really i dont care of damage because of your trait

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Guest Common Talent Paths

The common talent paths don't make sense to me...

Storm Bolt Build - Specifically mentions structural damage but punts sledgehammer for reverb.

Thunderclap Build - Specifically mentions attack speed but punts reverb for thunder burn.

Healing Static Build - Specifically mentions single target damage but punts thunder strike. Obviously the build is called healing static build so it must punt thunder strike and does take give em the axe so this one makes the most sense.

Overall I would say these builds seem to be poorly described. The first two literally punt THE skills that the descriptions imply.

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15 hours ago, Guest Common Talent Paths said:

Overall I would say these builds seem to be poorly described. The first two literally punt THE skills that the descriptions imply.

I'll see if I can get those descriptions changed to fit the builds better.

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Guest Phenom

Hi! With new update on Muradin this month. The Skullcracker talent at lvl 7 not only give Muradin third attack a stun now. It also give 25% attack speed too, and I have try take that talent in thunderclap build. And it work well so far. But that is a nice buff in CC with passive stun and attack speed. I have face one on one against Zeratul and Samuro I think it worth mentions. 

I shall try it out more. 

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Guest Phenom

Hi again! Tring same thing with third build. Work well w. talent give them the axe for AA bonus damage. 

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7 hours ago, Guest Phenom said:

Hi! With new update on Muradin this month. The Skullcracker talent at lvl 7 not only give Muradin third attack a stun now. It also give 25% attack speed too, and I have try take that talent in thunderclap build. And it work well so far. But that is a nice buff in CC with passive stun and attack speed. I have face one on one against Zeratul and Samuro I think it worth mentions. 

I shall try it out more. 

I've made a note to be looked at, thanks :)

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Hey everyone! 

I'm happy to tell you that we just converted the Muradin Guide into the new format. 

While doing so, I also applied several updates to it. Let me know what you think of it! 

Thanks for reading and clicking!

- Kendric

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Good Afternoon! 

I gotta say, this guide was great! I haven't played Muradin since the beta ended (always went for Johanna, ETC, Sonya, and now Taunt Varian), and the neutral guide was pretty killer. My hero league squad really wanted Muradin, and I had to give the people what they wanted! 

The Lvl 20 skill: Rewind was absolutely too much fun/very necessary. I missed bolts like crazy (noob), so Rewind really helped out with my non-skill skill shots as well as redeeming myself for every miss. And we ended up winning also. Woot!

Thanks again!

-Aramda

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yeah he's pretty solid right now. my recommendation for landing those Qs is to just only ever fire them at melee range unless i have absolutely no other choice...

 

though honestly if you can trick them into focusing you at the right moment you don't even need to do anything else to contribute to a teamfight sometimes...

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Nice to see that there was such a positive response to the guide update and the new format :) If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask guys!

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Guest Boscogn

Great Guide! I made a build in one of my games it was great. Basically Tank build but swapped lv1 for bolt talent and lv 4 for mana back and cd red on clap and lv 16 give them the ax. If I jumped into the fray with minions around i could chain spam clap for only 5 mana each time. That mixed with reduced mana from bolt it really solved the mana issues i was having with the build. I've tried heavy impact and stone form for the lv16 spot all work great. 

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7 hours ago, Guest Boscogn said:

Great Guide! I made a build in one of my games it was great. Basically Tank build but swapped lv1 for bolt talent and lv 4 for mana back and cd red on clap and lv 16 give them the ax. If I jumped into the fray with minions around i could chain spam clap for only 5 mana each time. That mixed with reduced mana from bolt it really solved the mana issues i was having with the build. I've tried heavy impact and stone form for the lv16 spot all work great. 

Yeah, hybrid builds work well for some heroes, and luckily Muradin is one of them. In some matches, however, you will need to focus on one build without going too hybrid. Which of the builds do you play the most?

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I usually go this https://www.icy-veins.com/heroes/talent-calculator/muradin#25.0!3341233

Crowd Control improves both his waveclearing and mana issues, it also synergises with Healing static.

I like to get more damage but the rewind talent has negative synergy with Crowd Control so I pick the other one.

Regarding Dwarf Toss, there are some niche interactions that might appear because it doesnt make you unstoppable like Anub'arak's E so you can get stunned, rooted, displaced mid-flight or before you even jump as it has a slight wind-up. I know because I play very aggressively.

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Guest Vittorio

Compliment , very nice site , all do you need know about heroes of the storm but , i thinks that the muradin page is incomplete , he is one of the most important basic hero and i have see play many times .

I think that in this page miss a full thank build , he is a warrior he need a thank build.

it is my opinion.

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23 hours ago, Guest Vittorio said:

Compliment , very nice site , all do you need know about heroes of the storm but , i thinks that the muradin page is incomplete , he is one of the most important basic hero and i have see play many times .

I think that in this page miss a full thank build , he is a warrior he need a thank build.

it is my opinion.

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Majority of Muradin's talents are ones that increase offensive power. Although it is possible I missed a few, the only tank talents offering defensibility directly that come to my mind are BlockBlock on level 1, AvatarAvatar as the heroic ability, Healing StaticHealing Static on level 13, StoneformStoneform on 16 and Unstoppable ForceUnstoppable Force/Hardened ShieldHardened Shield as the level 20 talent. Dwarf LaunchDwarf Launch (and RewindRewind) provides indirect survivability boost through lowered cooldown of Dwarf TossDwarf Toss, which in turn gives you extra armour applied by the ability. To some extent, Heavy ImpactHeavy Impact and SkullcrackerSkullcracker are an improvement to your tankiness since stunned enemies cannot attack, essentially tanking the damage that would have been dealt during the stun time. Imposing PresenceImposing Presence has a similar effect, inhibiting potential damage output, but just like BlockBlock, it requires specific heroes, especially those relying on high attack speed, such as Valla. 

Let's go tier by tier.

Third WindThird Wind improves your out-of-combat health restoration, which is not as important as your damage resistance during fights. For this reason, BlockBlock is considered superior for tank talent in this tier. BlockBlock's value depends too much on the composition of the opposing team to be set as Recommended or be a primary talent. You can still pick it if the opposing team has enough heroes with slow, heavy-hitting basic attacks or attacks that can be boosted, such as Sgt. Hammer or Arthas. This goes for both builds that are present in the guide. As said above, Imposing PresenceImposing Presence suffers from the same issue, but is additionally in the "power tier" of talents, competing with Dwarf LaunchDwarf Launch, which provides superior offensive value while also being useful defensively as outlined above, and with StoneformStoneform, which is the go-to talent for survivability. So, let's not take Imposing PresenceImposing Presence into account when talking about pure tank build. Back to the topic of the first tier - BlockBlock can be used in both builds if need be, which means that both builds are full tank so far.

For level 3 talents, the only talent providing potential survivability is SledgehammerSledgehammer by removing structure's ammo, which has a damage-blocking effect (as long as the ammo is removed). However, since tanks should not really care about buildings as much as about heroes, this talent should not be considered full tank, but rather an option to improve siege capability of Muradin.

When it comes to level 7 talents, you have two options for inhibiting damage - Heavy ImpactHeavy Impact and SkullcrackerSkullcracker. Both talents stun the target, nullifying any damage that would be dealt otherwise. Nonetheless, the damage reduction is not as significant, so the effect of Give 'em the Axe!Give 'em the Axe! is similar in reducing the damage that would be dealt by disabling the option to retaliate, in this case by killing your opponent faster. So, all talents on this tier give you the defensive power you are seeking in a pure tank build.

Simply put, your heroic ability should almost always be AvatarAvatar. This is reflected in the builds present, as both recommend it as the best heroic ability for that build. So far, both builds can be considered "full tank" builds.

As for level 13 talents, both builds goes for the defensive option - Healing StaticHealing Static.

As said previously, Imposing PresenceImposing Presence offers the weakest defensive option out of the three talents for level 16 unless faced with a team full of attack-speed reliant heroes, which doesn't really happen often enough to be even marked as "Situational". Dwarf LaunchDwarf Launch improves your survivability through lower cooldown on an armour-granting talent. In connection with Heavy ImpactHeavy Impact, it provides significant amount of interrupt. So, your talents for level 7 and 16 in a pure tank build should be either whatever+StoneformStoneform or Heavy ImpactHeavy Impact+Dwarf LaunchDwarf Launch. So, both builds are pure tank ones, as far as I can tell.

Now, for level 20, there are two defensive option. Unstoppable ForceUnstoppable Force provides an upgrade to your heroic ability AvatarAvatar, specifically improving your survivability through additional armour from Dwarf TossDwarf Toss and if taken, the talent combo from the previous paragraph. Hardened ShieldHardened Shield provides you with significant amount of armour, though for a short duration, delegating this talent as the anti-burst tech, as opposed to Unstoppable ForceUnstoppable Force's anti-sustain power. Both talents are great for tanking. RewindRewind does provide you with some armour in the form of resetting Dwarf TossDwarf Toss, but even when talented with the aforementioned combo, it does not provide as much survivability as the former two talents. 

So, when you compare these notes to the builds available in our guide, you can see that the Neutral build is the full tank build, with Dwarf Toss build following rather closely, especially until level 20. 

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Has anyone tried the Damage / Bruiser build for Muradin? I feel like it has some potential, but I haven't had the chance to try it myself. Basically, it aims to maximise the uptime of Give'em The Axe and Bronzebeard Rage. 

Level 1: Perfect Storm - The only talent that boost your damage

Level 4: Thunder Burn - The second clap can slow enemies longer

Level 7: Give'em The Axe - key talent of this build

Level 10: Both are viable, but Avatar should be the default choice unless the enemy has very low kill potential

Level 13: Bronzebeard Rage: key talent of this build, also provide much needed waveclear

Level 16: Imposing Presence: it basically serves as a Rewind for Thunder Clap; but Stoneform can also be taken if you need more survivability

Level 20: Both Unstoppable Force and Rewind are good

This is only a theory-crafting build because I haven't tried it out myself. I think this build have some potential if your team had another tank.

 

Update: I tried the build yesterday with an aggressive comp (Xul, Iron Fist Kharazim, Jaina and Samuro). We won pretty decisively, and I ended up having top hero damage. This build can delete squishy backlines with only a few basic attacks.

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Also, there are 2 things I should mention.

First, Skullcracker should be the go-to pick for the Neutral build. It improves your PvE damage and peeling. It's more useful than pure damage as a main tank.

Second, Third Wind is a solid choice on maps that require fast rotation (like Tomb of the Spider Queen and Dragon Shire), or extended laning phase (like Braxis Holdout). It vastly improves your sustain and relieves your support's pressure.

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Guest Tonamy76

Both of these builds are not that great.  They do nothing to increase Muradin's longevity and instead focus on damage.  This might be perfect for Grand Master, but are horrible for Bronze/Silver

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      Level 1 Full Metal [Trait] Fusion Cannons healing reduced from 20% to 16%. Liquid Cooling [Active] Healing Fountain duration bonus increased from 25% to 35%. Level 4 Rush-down [Q] Damage bonus to non-Heroic enemies reduced from 70% to 50%. Aggression Matrix [W] Reduced Healing received increased from 30% to 35%. Level 7 Fusion Generator [W] Fusion Cannons bonus increased from 75% to 100%. Level 10 Micro Missiles [R2] Slow reduced from 35% to 30%. Level 13 Target Locked [W] Duration required reduced from 1.25 seconds to 1 second. Level 20 Stop and Pop [R1] Additional Functionality: Bunny Hop duration increased by 4 seconds. Hogger
      Base
      Hogg Wild [E] Radius reduced from 2.75 to 2.625. Damage increased from 32 to 44. Damage bonus per point of Rage reduced from 1% to .5%. Changed Functionality: Damage bonus from Rage now only applies to Heroic targets. Talents
      Level 1 On The Prowl [Active] Healing per second reduced from 9 to 8. Level 4 Brute Force [Q/D] Loot Hoard range bonus increased from 15 to 20%. Maximum damage bonus increased from 125 to 150. Additional Functionality: Increase Loot Hoard’s damage by 50%. Aggro Range [E] Radius bonus decreased from 25% to 20%. Level 13 Pummel [E] Spell Power reduction duration reduced from 3 to 2 seconds. Level 20 No Control [Active] Duration decay rate increased by 50%. Sonya
      Talents
      Level 1 Furious Blow [W] Damage bonus reduced from 50% to 40%. Level 4 Shattered Ground [W] Changed Functionality: Increase Seismic Slam's splash damage by 250%. Targeting a Hero with Seismic Slam further increases its splash damage by 250%, while targeting other enemies instead increases the length of Seismic Slam's splash by 66%. Level 16 Giant Slammer [W] Healing from damage dealt reduced from 100% to 60%. The Lost Vikings
      Base
      Baleog Health reduced from 1180 to 1130. Health Regeneration reduced from 2.46 to 2.35. Basic Attack damage reduced from 78 to 75. Erik Health reduced from 840 to 804. Health Regeneration reduced from 1.75 to 1.67. Basic Attack damage reduced from 65 to 62. Olaf Health reduced from 1540 to 1482. Health Regeneration reduced from 3.21 to 3.08. Basic Attack damage reduced from 57 to 54. Talents
      Level 4 It's a Sabotage! [Passive] Damage over time duration reduced from 5 to 3 seconds. Damage per second increased from 50 to 75. Level 7 Norse Force! [Q] Base Shield increased from 130 to 140. Additional Shield for each Viking alive increased from 65 to 84. Level 10 Longboat Raid! [R2] Damage per second increased from 112 to 128. Level 16 Impatience Is a Virtue [Passive] Cooldown reduction increased from .25 seconds to .31 seconds. 64 KB Marathon [Z] Changed Functionality: Bonus Movement Speed no longer decays over its duration. Level 20 Ragnarok 'n' Roll! [R1] Additional Functionality: Reduce the cooldown of Longboat Raid by 30 seconds. Lucio
      Talents
      Level 1 Party Mix [W] New Functionality: Quest: Play Crossfade tracks to nearby allies. Reward: Every minute played increases Lucio’s Maximum Mana by 2%. After 8 Minutes of total play time, increase the range of Crossfade by 20%. Level 7 Boombox [Active] Cast range increased by 100% (5 to 10 grid). Health increased from 350 to 600. Additional Functionality: Allies affected by Boombox gain 5 Armor. Level 10 High Five [R2] Self-heal reduced from 125 to 80. Level 13 Slip [Z] Armor reduced from 20 to 15. Level 16 Up To Eleven [E] New Functionality: Increase the duration of Amp It Up by 1 second. While Amp It Up is active, enemy Heroes hit with Soundwave or Push-Off increase it’s duration by an additional .3 seconds. Level 20 Mixing Fire [R2] Damage dealt reduced from 225 to 160. Cost and cooldown reduction reduced from 50% to 30%. Uther
      Base
      Devotion [Trait] Adjusted Functionality: Uther’s Basic Abilities grant 25 Armor to allied Heroes, and 15 to Uther, for 2 seconds. Talents
      Level 16 Beacon of Light [Q] Self-healing bonus increased from 100% to 125%. Self-healing bonus at low Health increased from 200% to 250%. Tyr's Deliverance [W] Maximum stacks increased from 4 to 7. Level 20 Divine Protection [Trait] Additional Functionality: Sets Devotion Armor for both allied Heroes and Uther to 50. Azmodan
      Base
      Globe of Annihilation [Q] Level scaling increased from 2.5 to 4%. Talents
      Level 1 Greed [Q] Non-Heroic damage bonus reduced from 20 to 15%. Gluttony [Q] Annihilation earned from Hero hits increased from 3 to 4. Level 7 Master of Destruction [E] Annihilation earned from Hero hits reduced from 4 to 2. Level 10 Demonic Invasion [R1] Range decreased from 20 to 13.5. Demonic Grunt attack damage reduced from 42 to 39. Level 16 Hell Rift [E] Demon Warrior damage bonus reduced from 100 to 75%. Level 20 Siegebreaker [R1] Damage bonus reduced from 50 to 40%. Pride [Q] Damage bonus increased from 100 to 125. Falstad
      Base
      Lightning Rod [W] Lightning Rod verifies its targets is in range more frequently, from every second to every .25 seconds. Lightning Rod now uses a custom range indicator. Talents
      Level 1 Gathering Storm [Q] Hammerang damage bonus per stack increased from 0.2% to 0.4%. Dishonorable Discharge [W] Lightning Rod cooldown reduction reduced from 3 to 2 seconds. Lightning Rod damage bonus per stack decreased from 1% to .75%, maximum bonus remains 75%. Changed Functionality: Takedowns resetting Lightning Rod's cooldown now gained on quest completion. Level 13 Thunderstrikes [W] Damage bonus per stack increased from 20% to 25%. Changed Functionality: Thunderstrikes' damage bonus no longer affects other Lightning Rod bonuses. Junkrat
      Base
      Frag Launcher [Q] Damage increased from 118 to 124. Talents
      Level 1 Extra-Wound Timers [Q] Damage bonus increased from 80% to 120%. Level 7 Big As [E] Additional Functionality: Steel Trap only hits Heroes. Level 10 Rocket Ride [R2] Damage increased from 890 to 935. Tassadar
      Base
      Shock Ray [Q] Channel duration reduced from .75 to .6875 seconds. Talents
      Level 4 Induction [Q] Changed Functionality: Tassadar gains 10% increased Movement Speed. Casting Shock Ray increases this bonus to 30% for 3 seconds. Level 7 Beam Alignment [Q] Mana cost reduction increased from 10 to 15. Additional Functionality: While Resonance Beam is fully charged, Shock Ray’s Slow duration is increased to 4 seconds. Level 13 Shadow Walk [Active] Armor increased from 25 to 35. Return to Top
      Bug Fixes
      Battlegrounds
      Added Warhead Junction to Ranked Play. Removed Volskaya from Ranked Play. Heroes
      E.T.C. Crowd Surfer no longer causes spells queued after Powerslide to be cast without an animation. Rexxar Casting Misha, Charge! and Misha Focus! at the same time will no longer occasionally cancel the ability. Uther Tyr's Deliverance no longer increases Uther's Holy Light self Healing. Return to Top
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    • By Staff
      There's a new type of talent coming to Heroes of the Storm, as Blizz_Daybringer revealed on r/heroesofthestorm today. Loan talents are ment to be "the opposite of quests", as they give a lot of power up-front and then become weaker and weaker, with the Johanna example we got losing one quarter of it's power with each death, so they will lose some effect when something negative happens. 
      Loan Talents (source)
      Good morning Heroes!
      There is some new content coming right around the corner and I wanted to take a quick minute to share something that will be entering the Nexus shortly - Loan Talents. Here is a sneak-peek at one of them:
      Divine Fortress
      Basic Attacks against enemy Heroes grant 15 Physical Armor for 3 seconds, stacking up to 60.
      Loan: Johanna gains 20% maximum Health. Lose 5% of this bonus every time she dies.
      The idea behind these was to give fairly substantial up-front power spikes that can either help carry you to victory or potentially lose potency over time - think of them as sort of 'reverse-quests'. Play smart and they can be extremely powerful over the course of the game, but know that by choosing it, you also put a pretty substantial target over your head... cough, Convection, cough.
      Anyways, the team is excited to see what you think about these and get them into your hands as soon as possible! Have a wonderful day and we will see you in the Nexus! ❤️
    • By Staff
      The Icy Veins Masters Clash Championship continues today at 6 PM Paris time. Check out the schedule of all upcoming matches for this weekend!
      About the Event
      Masters Clash Championship is a Heroes of the Storm tournament sponsored by Icy Veins, where teams compete for a prize pool of 10,000 EUR.
      Event Schedule
      May 1 (Saturday)
      Match 1: Inting for Ruby vs. The Hardos at 6:00 PM Paris time Match 2: ArthasStroitHram vs. SoundLess at 8:00 PM Paris time. May 2 (Sunday)
      Match 1: Go Next vs. 30K at 6:00 PM Paris time. Match 2: The donuts vs. Chilly Mountain at 8:00 PM Paris time. Here is the exact schedule of all the matches for this weekend.

      Head over to the official site for more details about the event
      Where to Watch
       English stream (Khaldor)  French stream (Malganyr)  German stream (TazzDingo)  Russian stream (Noizen)  Spanish stream (Orhy)
    • By Staff
      The Icy Veins Masters Clash Championship continues tomorrow at 6 PM Paris time. Check out the schedule of upcoming matches for this weekend!
      About the Event
      Masters Clash Championship is a Heroes of the Storm tournament sponsored by Icy Veins, where teams compete for a prize pool of 10,000 EUR.
      Event Schedule
      April 24 (Saturday)
      Match 1: The donuts vs. Inting for Ruby at 6:00 PM Paris time Match 2: SoundLess vs. SoundLess at 8:00 PM Paris time. April 25 (Sunday)
      Match 1: Go Next vs. ArthasStroitHram at 6:00 PM Paris time. Match 2: The Hardos vs. 30K at 8:00 PM Paris time. Here is the exact schedule of the upcoming matches for this weekend.

       
      Head over to the official site for more details.
      Where to Watch
       English stream (Khaldor)  French stream (Malganyr)  German stream (TazzDingo)  Russian stream (Noizen)  Spanish stream (Orhy)
    • By Staff
      Here are the results of the latest Masters Clash Championship matches from Saturday and Sunday
      About the Event
      Masters Clash Championship is a Heroes of the Storm tournament sponsored by Icy Veins, where teams compete for a prize pool of 10,000 EUR. 48% of all matches have been played.
      Match Results
      On  Saturday, The Hardos defeated SoundLess in the first match and ArthasStroitHram won against Inting for Ruby.
      On Sunday, Chilly Mountain defeated Go Next 3:2 and in the second match, 30K claimed victory against The donuts.

      When Will We See More Matches?
      The event continues on April 24 at 6:00 PM Paris time. You can find a full schedule of all upcoming matches here.
      Where to Watch
      You can watch the event in multiple languages. Links to localized streams can be found below.
       English stream (Khaldor)  French stream (Malganyr)  German stream (TazzDingo)  Russian stream (Noizen)  Spanish stream (Orhy)
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