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Heroes of the Storm Johanna

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The level 1 talents don't match up.

 

Icons: Reinforce recommended, Regeneration Master situational

Explanations: Knight Takes Pawn recommended, Reinforce situational

 

 

The level 7 talents have Sins Exposed as the situational pick on the icons, while Conviction is the situational in the explanations.

 

The level 16 situationals include Fanaticism on the icons but Blessed Hammer in the explanations.

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The level 1 talents don't match up.

 

Icons: Reinforce recommended, Regeneration Master situational

Explanations: Knight Takes Pawn recommended, Reinforce situational

 

 

The level 7 talents have Sins Exposed as the situational pick on the icons, while Conviction is the situational in the explanations.

 

The level 16 situationals include Fanaticism on the icons but Blessed Hammer in the explanations.

 

Hmm, that's really weird. Will fix. Thanks for the heads up!

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Awesome guide Srey!  I've dabbled with HotS since beta but only recently (last couple of weeks) really started enjoying it and making some progress.  When Johanna was on free rotation, I tried her out and enjoyed her so much I had to unlock her.  So far I mostly play vs. the AI either solo or with a friend or two but I'm interested in taking my game to the next level.  I was wondering what your advice would be as far as how to approach that.  I'm currently level 28 so I don't have team or hero league unlocked yet.

 

I saw your two cents post on reddit talking about mostly playing hero league.  Should I just focus on reaching level 40 for now?

 

Thanks much.

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Awesome guide Srey!  I've dabbled with HotS since beta but only recently (last couple of weeks) really started enjoying it and making some progress.  When Johanna was on free rotation, I tried her out and enjoyed her so much I had to unlock her.  So far I mostly play vs. the AI either solo or with a friend or two but I'm interested in taking my game to the next level.  I was wondering what your advice would be as far as how to approach that.  I'm currently level 28 so I don't have team or hero league unlocked yet.

 

I saw your two cents post on reddit talking about mostly playing hero league.  Should I just focus on reaching level 40 for now?

 

Thanks much.

Hey Manson,

 

I'd really just recommend playing quick match games. There's really no reason to play Hero League, unless you want an extra competitive edge, but you shouldn't feel pressured or rushed to do so. If you have any issues with players in Quick match, mute them as soon as they become a problem. Otherwise, just enjoy the game, focus on your own play, and have fun!

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In your talent build you mention that Battle Momentum decreases the CD of Iron Skin - that is not true, BM does not effect IS since it is a trait and not an ability.

Great guide otherwise, ty smile.png

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In your talent build you mention that Battle Momentum decreases the CD of Iron Skin - that is not true, BM does not effect IS since it is a trait and not an ability.

Great guide otherwise, ty smile.png

Just tested this and you are correct. Thanks for the heads up!

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With current heroes and a lot of thin characters in use " Sins exposed " is better option, because they allow you to help burst down important targets. Though CD reduction is important, but  it wont help you that much in current game state (too much Ranged characters). In addition it synergies pretty well with "King Takes Pawn" and gives you relative freedom of choice at lvl 13.

 

Lvl13 again with current heroes Magic shield is more efficient than additional dammage since you will be first to soak it, and if you can soak in without relying on your healer then it is more efficent for your team that some additional dmg from "Burning Rage", but both those talents are viable.

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Maybe it's not right anymore to say that Johanna has no direct counter. I'd say Varian with the shield-shattering skill counters her pretty hard.

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On 1/18/2017 at 6:45 PM, Guest DepressedRobot said:

Maybe it's not right anymore to say that Johanna has no direct counter. I'd say Varian with the shield-shattering skill counters her pretty hard.

agree that he should be added to the "countered by" list for this reason, but I definitely wouldn't say he counters her "pretty hard."

First, he's actually countered by *her* pre-16 (blinds being strong against DW varian and her trait countering taunt built quite well).

Secondly, even after 16 she's hardly dead in the water. her trait gets hit quite hard, but indestructible and storm shield (her only other 2 shield talents) both hold up quite well - given that she can blind DW varian while he is focused down by the team, it is likely that he will only be able to break one shield per fight with the active.

Lastly, It also costs him the chance to pick up mortal strike or juggernaut; both of which are likely to be useful against johanna, depending on the team comps.

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On 1/18/2017 at 11:45 PM, Guest DepressedRobot said:

Maybe it's not right anymore to say that Johanna has no direct counter. I'd say Varian with the shield-shattering skill counters her pretty hard.

I'll see if we can get this added in.

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On 1/20/2017 at 1:57 AM, Voltorocks said:

agree that he should be added to the "countered by" list for this reason, but I definitely wouldn't say he counters her "pretty hard."

Thanks for helping to respond and giving more detail on the relationship between them :)

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Worth mentioning that shattering throw got moved to the lvl 13 tier this patch which does I think make Varian an even better counter to Johanna as there's now and 7 level gap between shattering throw and Johanna's secondary shield talents at 20

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18 hours ago, Voltorocks said:

Worth mentioning that shattering throw got moved to the lvl 13 tier this patch which does I think make Varian an even better counter to Johanna as there's now and 7 level gap between shattering throw and Johanna's secondary shield talents at 20

For sure - I've made a note of it, so will hopefully get updated soon :)

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