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Heroes of the Storm Johanna

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This thread is for comments about our Johanna build guide for Heroes of the Storm.

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The level 1 talents don't match up.

 

Icons: Reinforce recommended, Regeneration Master situational

Explanations: Knight Takes Pawn recommended, Reinforce situational

 

 

The level 7 talents have Sins Exposed as the situational pick on the icons, while Conviction is the situational in the explanations.

 

The level 16 situationals include Fanaticism on the icons but Blessed Hammer in the explanations.

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The level 1 talents don't match up.

 

Icons: Reinforce recommended, Regeneration Master situational

Explanations: Knight Takes Pawn recommended, Reinforce situational

 

 

The level 7 talents have Sins Exposed as the situational pick on the icons, while Conviction is the situational in the explanations.

 

The level 16 situationals include Fanaticism on the icons but Blessed Hammer in the explanations.

 

Hmm, that's really weird. Will fix. Thanks for the heads up!

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Awesome guide Srey!  I've dabbled with HotS since beta but only recently (last couple of weeks) really started enjoying it and making some progress.  When Johanna was on free rotation, I tried her out and enjoyed her so much I had to unlock her.  So far I mostly play vs. the AI either solo or with a friend or two but I'm interested in taking my game to the next level.  I was wondering what your advice would be as far as how to approach that.  I'm currently level 28 so I don't have team or hero league unlocked yet.

 

I saw your two cents post on reddit talking about mostly playing hero league.  Should I just focus on reaching level 40 for now?

 

Thanks much.

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Awesome guide Srey!  I've dabbled with HotS since beta but only recently (last couple of weeks) really started enjoying it and making some progress.  When Johanna was on free rotation, I tried her out and enjoyed her so much I had to unlock her.  So far I mostly play vs. the AI either solo or with a friend or two but I'm interested in taking my game to the next level.  I was wondering what your advice would be as far as how to approach that.  I'm currently level 28 so I don't have team or hero league unlocked yet.

 

I saw your two cents post on reddit talking about mostly playing hero league.  Should I just focus on reaching level 40 for now?

 

Thanks much.

Hey Manson,

 

I'd really just recommend playing quick match games. There's really no reason to play Hero League, unless you want an extra competitive edge, but you shouldn't feel pressured or rushed to do so. If you have any issues with players in Quick match, mute them as soon as they become a problem. Otherwise, just enjoy the game, focus on your own play, and have fun!

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In your talent build you mention that Battle Momentum decreases the CD of Iron Skin - that is not true, BM does not effect IS since it is a trait and not an ability.

Great guide otherwise, ty smile.png

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In your talent build you mention that Battle Momentum decreases the CD of Iron Skin - that is not true, BM does not effect IS since it is a trait and not an ability.

Great guide otherwise, ty smile.png

Just tested this and you are correct. Thanks for the heads up!

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With current heroes and a lot of thin characters in use " Sins exposed " is better option, because they allow you to help burst down important targets. Though CD reduction is important, but  it wont help you that much in current game state (too much Ranged characters). In addition it synergies pretty well with "King Takes Pawn" and gives you relative freedom of choice at lvl 13.

 

Lvl13 again with current heroes Magic shield is more efficient than additional dammage since you will be first to soak it, and if you can soak in without relying on your healer then it is more efficent for your team that some additional dmg from "Burning Rage", but both those talents are viable.

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Maybe it's not right anymore to say that Johanna has no direct counter. I'd say Varian with the shield-shattering skill counters her pretty hard.

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On 1/18/2017 at 6:45 PM, Guest DepressedRobot said:

Maybe it's not right anymore to say that Johanna has no direct counter. I'd say Varian with the shield-shattering skill counters her pretty hard.

agree that he should be added to the "countered by" list for this reason, but I definitely wouldn't say he counters her "pretty hard."

First, he's actually countered by *her* pre-16 (blinds being strong against DW varian and her trait countering taunt built quite well).

Secondly, even after 16 she's hardly dead in the water. her trait gets hit quite hard, but indestructible and storm shield (her only other 2 shield talents) both hold up quite well - given that she can blind DW varian while he is focused down by the team, it is likely that he will only be able to break one shield per fight with the active.

Lastly, It also costs him the chance to pick up mortal strike or juggernaut; both of which are likely to be useful against johanna, depending on the team comps.

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On 1/18/2017 at 11:45 PM, Guest DepressedRobot said:

Maybe it's not right anymore to say that Johanna has no direct counter. I'd say Varian with the shield-shattering skill counters her pretty hard.

I'll see if we can get this added in.

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On 1/20/2017 at 1:57 AM, Voltorocks said:

agree that he should be added to the "countered by" list for this reason, but I definitely wouldn't say he counters her "pretty hard."

Thanks for helping to respond and giving more detail on the relationship between them :)

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Worth mentioning that shattering throw got moved to the lvl 13 tier this patch which does I think make Varian an even better counter to Johanna as there's now and 7 level gap between shattering throw and Johanna's secondary shield talents at 20

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18 hours ago, Voltorocks said:

Worth mentioning that shattering throw got moved to the lvl 13 tier this patch which does I think make Varian an even better counter to Johanna as there's now and 7 level gap between shattering throw and Johanna's secondary shield talents at 20

For sure - I've made a note of it, so will hopefully get updated soon :)

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Johanna was the first tank I got to L20.... and until recently was probably my strongest tank.

This guide needs updating.... particularly for the latest patch. I'm particularly interested in any thoughts on the change in armour (lol nope not from USA with that spelling!) impacting changes in talents. I suspect we're seeing a shift from L1 reinforce to regeneration master, which I think would be a shame as it makes Johanna a lot more like the rest of the tanks, and a bit less distinctive.... as chaining and timing the chaining of the enemy hero attacks blocked with reinforce was a big part of her survivability.

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1 hour ago, Kiarbitrager said:

Johanna was the first tank I got to L20.... and until recently was probably my strongest tank.

This guide needs updating.... particularly for the latest patch. I'm particularly interested in any thoughts on the change in armour (lol nope not from USA with that spelling!) impacting changes in talents. I suspect we're seeing a shift from L1 reinforce to regeneration master, which I think would be a shame as it makes Johanna a lot more like the rest of the tanks, and a bit less distinctive.... as chaining and timing the chaining of the enemy hero attacks blocked with reinforce was a big part of her survivability.

Johanna's guide will see an update that will take these changes in account soon-ish. Her guide is sadly in the old format, which means it will take longer to get her updated, so you'll have to be a bit patient and check back later. 

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5 hours ago, Kiarbitrager said:

All good, understandable it is a bit more work..... any quick thoughts on the patch and L1 talent pick?

The was updated much sooner than I expected, so you can read Kendric's thoughts on the T1 talent pick in the guide already.
I also pick Regeneration Master Icon Regeneration Master when the opposing team has no basic attackers.

As for the patch itself, it seems to have hurt Johanna a bit, but she is still a good tank, especially against basic attackers.

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11 hours ago, Guest Whatever said:

Well, how about an actual analysis of the talent in case I am able to choose it?

Sorry for this. We will be updating the discussion soon. You will usually want the IndestructibleIndestructible anyway, so the "Not Recommended" fits even if you have chosen Falling SwordFalling Sword.

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3 hours ago, Guest Reader said:

Small typo in "Johanna is countered by":
"...due to Iron Skin Icon Iron Skin"

Thanks for pointing this out! I've added it onto our to-do list.

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