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Heroes of the Storm Sonya

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This build/guide on sonya is useless and bad just go for slam spam or u will be useless like every other sonya that you see.Take every talent that can improve your seismic slam take block at lvl 1 and wrath of the beserker as heroic at lvl 20 go either for ignore pain or anger management but only if you are totally dominating the enemy team. stoneskin is viable as well but i prefer the dmg of furious blow or no escape over stone skin.and dont take mystical spear its just bad if u miss your spear and u jump in 5 enemys without any fury u deal no dmg and cant spam your slam, which will lead to no dmg and your death.Just follow this lil talent guide i gave you and you will start wrecking your enemys instead of being a uselss shit that everyone hates.

 

Good Luck and have fun

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This build/guide on sonya is useless and bad just go for slam spam or u will be useless like every other sonya that you see.Take every talent that can improve your seismic slam take block at lvl 1 and wrath of the beserker as heroic at lvl 20 go either for ignore pain or anger management but only if you are totally dominating the enemy team. stoneskin is viable as well but i prefer the dmg of furious blow or no escape over stone skin.and dont take mystical spear its just bad if u miss your spear and u jump in 5 enemys without any fury u deal no dmg and cant spam your slam, which will lead to no dmg and your death.Just follow this lil talent guide i gave you and you will start wrecking your enemys instead of being a uselss shit that everyone hates.

 

Good Luck and have fun

 

I don't know if we should take your comment seriously. Mystical Spear is an amazing talent that also decreases your cooldown on Ancient Spear by 4 seconds regardless. Besides, Block is vastly inferior to Warpaint and Shot of Fury (not only according to Icy Veins but also according to the general opinion, represented by hotslogs.com https://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroDetails?Hero=Sonya  )

 

Don't get me wrong, you're allowed to share your own opinion about the guide, but by calling it "bad" or "useless" you're just straight up embarassing yourself. 

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Good guide, reminds me of the popular one used by zuna with some tweaks and changes, good work here

 

Really strong hero right now, came from the bottom to being really strong and getting picked in tournaments even

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After playing sonya for about 30-40 games, i think at lvl 7 ferocious healing is often the best choice. Sooo many deaths avoided with it. (mmr ~~2200 yea nab)

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After playing sonya for about 30-40 games, i think at lvl 7 ferocious healing is often the best choice. Sooo many deaths avoided with it. (mmr ~~2200 yea nab)

 

It's definitely good, and generally preferred by most players. I have it as situational simply because in a perfect scenario, you'd want to maximise your Fury usage and just deal more damage when you can (i.e. through Poison-tipped).

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Am I correct: follow through talent will be triggered every time I'll use "W"?
It seems like ridiculously OP damage buff due to very low CD of "W"..

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A good Sonya player with a Lt. Morales is almost invincible if not focused down immediately

 

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On 7/14/2016 at 9:48 AM, Guest int said:

Am I correct: follow through talent will be triggered every time I'll use "W"?
It seems like ridiculously OP damage buff due to very low CD of "W"..

That is how it functions, yes. It is strong but not particularly overpowered because Sonya's basic attack uptime is generally pretty low.

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Great guide, I don't feel going for an camp build due to the fact I'll usually two man so I'm able to keep the back line build to get rid of any high dmg dealers (keal'thas) 

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On 8/3/2016 at 4:28 PM, Guest J-dog said:

Great guide, I don't feel going for an camp build due to the fact I'll usually two man so I'm able to keep the back line build to get rid of any high dmg dealers (keal'thas) 

Just make sure you don't sacrifice experience soaking or lane pressure to overdedicate to camps.

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Is that true? I can see her being like that before the likes of the Butcher and Alarak, but now...

  • "Highest single-target damage output potential in the game"
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I mean, in theory the butcher has unlimited damage *potential,* but the reality is somewhat (a lot) more grounded.

It's a pretty broad statement to be able to verify 100% (burst? sustain? sustained over how long a period of time? heroic or non heroic target? etc.) but I don't think it's that far off base. If an ulting sonya is given 100% uptime on targets (that's why it's "potential," see? because we're discussing imaginary best-case scenarios that almost never happen) her sustained single target dps is *astronomical.* It definitely can exceed many _burst_ heroes dps, and certainly outpaces any other sustain assassin (barring the aforementioned infinity stacked butcher). Alarak could probably outpace her over a short period as could a few other very high burst assassins, but that's about it.

 

All that said, the word "potential" is really, really important here. she does not have the sustain, durability, or sticking power of varian (for example) so against most comps this potential is wasted as she spends the majority of teamfights being dead or kited. Here's hoping that she gets updated a bit soon, in particular to differentiate her from dual wield varian and other AAing brawlers.

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I'm not a fan of the War Paint talent, or the Merc Lord build, as 1) I've played around with Shot of Fury for ages and it's by far the superior pick on the tier, especially after they rolled the extra fury collection into it, and 2) besides having to give up Focused Attacks, one of the core talents essential to Sonya imo, you can safely take most merc camps solo. With enough experience, you can do a team fight or a map objective with Berserker still up or about to expire, use Shot of Fury to extend the Rage by five seconds or Ancient Spear to initiate the camp and keep Rage active and efficiently do it without any talent fluff that subtracts from Sonya's number one goal and aim; to be a huge backline or frontline threat and presence, chasing relentlessly and dealing huge damage to anyone that stays near her. 

Amongst other Sonya players, there is some debate with the Poisoned Spear talent. I lean towards Follow Through; with Shot of Fury and the damage buff that Berserker provides, I find that it provides a lot more damage overall than damage from Poisoned Spear, which should always be a strategic cd due to the stun it gives, and the relatively long cd it has compared to her other abilities. Furthermore, with Follow Through, Shot of Fury and the increased Fury pool to draw from, it should feel like the superior talent, especially on maps such as Battlefield of Eternity where you need to damage pve targets, as well as being extremely efficient at deleting forts from the map while never being in any true danger of not having any Fury left to switch to an enemy hero.

Additionally, you can use Shot of Fury without dismounting, which provides you with an extra avenue to be a strong initiator without having your Ancient Spear on cooldown for a critical gap closer or interrupt. 

tl;dr: If you ever become confident with this hero, I would recommend looking at Shot of Fury builds for most of your games. 

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10 hours ago, Plergoth said:

 

I'm not a fan of the War Paint talent, or the Merc Lord build, as 1) I've played around with Shot of Fury for ages and it's by far the superior pick on the tier, especially after they rolled the extra fury collection into it

 

100% agree when you're in team or even usually in hero league. The major exception is if you don't think you can trust your team to cover your sustain, which is 100% of the time in quick match and (at my shitty level) like 50% or more of the time in hero. if you have a solid malf or brightwing who's always popping in to top you off after camps, then yeah, this talent kicks ass. 

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I'm inclined to like Shot more as well, but I've become rather... questioning, say, of my typical teammate's competency. The self-sustain and self-reliance are nice.

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