Damien

Heroes of the Storm Gazlowe

29 posts in this topic

This thread is for comments about our Gazlowe build guide for Heroes of the Storm.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey there!

 

Because of either talent order change or some other glitch level 16 talent displayed for Grav-O-Bomb build is now Hyperfocus Coils, the only talent of four not recommended at all in the detailed talent build section.

 

Also neither this nor other build in Quick Reference matches main choices taken in the detailed section. Not sure whether this is intended.

 

And a little question. Infernal shrines were not added to map specific advice, do you think taking turrets XL for more targets may have sense there instead of slowing? Or too much utility dropped anyway?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey there!

 

Because of either talent order change or some other glitch level 16 talent displayed for Grav-O-Bomb build is now Hyperfocus Coils, the only talent of four not recommended at all in the detailed talent build section.

 

Also neither this nor other build in Quick Reference matches main choices taken in the detailed section. Not sure whether this is intended.

 

And a little question. Infernal shrines were not added to map specific advice, do you think taking turrets XL for more targets may have sense there instead of slowing? Or too much utility dropped anyway?

 

Hi,

Thank you for notifying me of this small mistake. The database has issues sometimes; I'll be right quick to get it fixed.

Regarding Infernal Shrines, the map went through so many changes and iterations that we have set to give it a bit of time before cementing our guides. I'll be getting mine done within the week.

Turret XL is definitely a good pick on Infernal Shrines, as would be Extra TNT. I'll be editing the guide to reflect these.

Thank you again, and with regards,

Oxy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Personally, I find picking EZ-PZ at 13 and Hyperfocus at 16 turns the Laser into a mini-heroic that is incredibly useful in team-fights and pushes, especially for Robo-Goblin users.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Usually I really like your talent guides but on Gazlowe I think you are overlooking something in the talent build. 

On Infernal Shrines, both teams should have reached level 4 right before the first shrine gets active. When picking up the talent Clockwerk Steam Fists (not recommended by your guide), you should be able to complete the quest during this first shrine very easily which gives you a permanent cooldown reduction of 3 seconds (from 15 to 12) for the rest of the game. 

On level 7, you give Rock-it! Turret XL not recommended as well, because it seldom hits several targets in team fight situations. On the shrines however, it makes you cut through the minions like a maniac. And since you'll be basic attacking the minions as well, you don't have to replace any turrets, ending the shrine with over 12 turrets and a group of angry opponents because as soon as they enter, Robo-Goblin will put them to half health before even reaching you. 

Same build also applies for Battlefield of Eternity although the quest takes slightly longer as the immortal will kill some turrets.

The 3 second cooldown reduction combined with Break It Down! at level 1 guarantees you to be able to set up a huge field of turrets during the siege, zoning any melee hero out of range of their forts and keeps. All a Gazlowe player has to do is pick up the Scrap, kill the outer walls for additional scrap and you'll have 4 second cooldown on your Turret charges that do significant AoE damage, melting tanks even faster than Giant Killer. 

This build almost guarantees you to be both top hero and siege damage and often giving you the most kills.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7.9.2016 at 6:50 AM, Guest MadDictator said:

Usually I really like your talent guides but on Gazlowe I think you are overlooking something in the talent build. 

On Infernal Shrines, both teams should have reached level 4 right before the first shrine gets active. When picking up the talent Clockwerk Steam Fists (not recommended by your guide), you should be able to complete the quest during this first shrine very easily which gives you a permanent cooldown reduction of 3 seconds (from 15 to 12) for the rest of the game. 

On level 7, you give Rock-it! Turret XL not recommended as well, because it seldom hits several targets in team fight situations. On the shrines however, it makes you cut through the minions like a maniac. And since you'll be basic attacking the minions as well, you don't have to replace any turrets, ending the shrine with over 12 turrets and a group of angry opponents because as soon as they enter, Robo-Goblin will put them to half health before even reaching you. 

Same build also applies for Battlefield of Eternity although the quest takes slightly longer as the immortal will kill some turrets.

The 3 second cooldown reduction combined with Break It Down! at level 1 guarantees you to be able to set up a huge field of turrets during the siege, zoning any melee hero out of range of their forts and keeps. All a Gazlowe player has to do is pick up the Scrap, kill the outer walls for additional scrap and you'll have 4 second cooldown on your Turret charges that do significant AoE damage, melting tanks even faster than Giant Killer. 

This build almost guarantees you to be both top hero and siege damage and often giving you the most kills.

I'm not a big Gazlowe player, but does this build require your team to be ahead? Surely, in order for you to setup the shrines as you say, your team needs to have already won the inital fight at the shrine? Perhaps this is why it's not recommended, if this is the case.

Regardless, I'd like to hear the opinion of @Oxygen on this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/7/2016 at 0:50 AM, Guest MadDictator said:

Usually I really like your talent guides but on Gazlowe I think you are overlooking something in the talent build. 

On Infernal Shrines, both teams should have reached level 4 right before the first shrine gets active. When picking up the talent Clockwerk Steam Fists (not recommended by your guide), you should be able to complete the quest during this first shrine very easily which gives you a permanent cooldown reduction of 3 seconds (from 15 to 12) for the rest of the game. 

On level 7, you give Rock-it! Turret XL not recommended as well, because it seldom hits several targets in team fight situations. On the shrines however, it makes you cut through the minions like a maniac. And since you'll be basic attacking the minions as well, you don't have to replace any turrets, ending the shrine with over 12 turrets and a group of angry opponents because as soon as they enter, Robo-Goblin will put them to half health before even reaching you. 

Same build also applies for Battlefield of Eternity although the quest takes slightly longer as the immortal will kill some turrets.

The 3 second cooldown reduction combined with Break It Down! at level 1 guarantees you to be able to set up a huge field of turrets during the siege, zoning any melee hero out of range of their forts and keeps. All a Gazlowe player has to do is pick up the Scrap, kill the outer walls for additional scrap and you'll have 4 second cooldown on your Turret charges that do significant AoE damage, melting tanks even faster than Giant Killer. 

This build almost guarantees you to be both top hero and siege damage and often giving you the most kills.

See, I generally really appreciate this kind of thinking, genuinely. I think that Blainie pretty much said it right, however. Steamfists work well when you're under little to no pressure, which generally won't be the case on IS. Even worse, aggressive turrets (the best kind!) for clearing out Skeletons are prone to be AoE'd down. It might work against really defensive team comps, i.e. double healer.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for taking my suggestion into consideration! I only play Gold level hero league so I'm sure in higher regions they'll counter it harder, but I continued to pick Gazlowe on infernal shrines, telling team in draft to pick heroes that can zone them away from the turrets. I just make sure I'm first at the shrine to put initial turrets down, then AA some minions in lane to increase the duration of the turrets and then come back in to place 2-3 more.

I do kinda agree with you on the level 7 choice tho. The Rockit Turret XL does clear the minions at the shrine a lot faster, but overall the slow of Engine Gunk is of more benefit throughout the game. I have played a ton of games with Gazlowe to see the effect of the different talent combinations and right now I feel that taking the additional mana restoration from scrap at 1, the clockwork at 4 and slow at 7 is the most balanced combination.

The clockwork is not recommended because Gaz shouldn't be auto attacking often, which is absolutely true. However, when clearing some mercs, not salvaging the turrets, hitting a couple minions in lane, the quest should be completed at max 5 minutes. The 3 sec cooldown reduction is worth it imho.

An additional way of using it is on f.e. the beacon on braxit holdout, just surround the beacon with turrets, hit the minions in lane and keep fortifying the beacon further. Same goes for bosses on Cursed Hollow. Place turrets, get to lane to hit some minions, place more turrets, do this 3 times and as soon as you move for boss you got it in like 20 seconds. On Dragon Shire, I often manage to flood top lane with turrets, then move to soak mid (turrets kill minions top for xp) allowing 4 teammates to move to bot shrine. As soon as the fight breaks out to take the DK, there are at least 6 turrets going.

I start to love gazlowe more and more :)

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 10/4/2016 at 5:44 PM, Guest LloydsGamble said:

Just a quick heads up - you mention good spots for Hammer's Siege mode on your Infernal Shrines write up.

Passed that on to the writers, thanks :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/30/2016 at 11:53 AM, Guest MadDictator said:

Thanks for taking my suggestion into consideration!

We always do our best to do so! We make sure to read every comment we get :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 04/10/2016 at 0:44 PM, Guest LloydsGamble said:

Just a quick heads up - you mention good spots for Hammer's Siege mode on your Infernal Shrines write up.

Caught me copying another guide's layout like a noob. Good one.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hate to say this, but this guide is very outdated at best, just plain incorrect at worst. 

The top build for Gazlowe is the turret build which uses several talents that you've designated bad but which are fine and, in fact, have great synergy together. At level 1, Regeneration Master is an acceptable though not ideal choice -- probably because the turret build seeks survivability. But main talent you've got quite wrong is is Clockwerk Steam Fists. Clockwerk Steam Fists is perfectly viable and is critical to the turret build and certainly should not be "Not Recommended." (If you're wondering, all you need to do is whack some minions or even a hero a few times -- or a structure -- to get value from the talent.) 

At level 4 ARK Reaktor, on the other hand, is hard to get value from and probably shouldn't be the top choice unless you're VERY good at landing a 2.5 second delay skill shot. And at level 7, Rock It! Turret XL seems like an acceptable niche talent if you're looking for AoE damage / waveclear. And finally we hit the heroics at level. BOTH heroics are viable. The changes to Robo-Goblin have made it a solid pick even for team fights, not just split-pushing.

The rest of the tiers I have no qualms with your assessments. 

(If you do not believe me, check hotslogs.) 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Guest WanYao said:

I hate to say this, but this guide is very outdated at best, just plain incorrect at worst. 

Will tag @Oxygen in this. I'm sure he can help out with discussing this, since I just don't play enough Gazlowe to know right from wrong in this case!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's a shame oxygen didn't respond. As a Gazlowe player (1500+ games, ranked in Diamond) I am curious to hear his logic behind the talent choices. As it stands, I agree with WanYao. On some maps such as Braxis Holdout or Infernal Shrines, Clockwork Steamfists is an incredible talent. Plus knocking 20% off the cooldown on your most important ability helps regardless of the map.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 1/15/2017 at 3:58 AM, Guest Fallout said:

As a Gazlowe player (1500+ games, ranked in Diamond) I am curious to hear his logic behind the talent choices. 

As far as I am aware, the guide is still in the "old" format, so it hasn't received the overhaul that the other guides have yet - just to say, we are actively working on this, but it takes a lot of time since the guides are basically being completely rewritten! - I can only apologise that it is outdated/incorrect and it should be getting updated in the near future! 

Sorry once again!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 hours ago, 50m8r4 said:

I'd like to point out that firein' mah lazor is "not recommended" tho it's the lvl 20 tallents shown in the lazor build

Thanks for pointing this out. We'll make some changes to the Gazlowe guide soon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

FYI: ATM " EZ-PZ Dimensional Ripper" (L13) doesn't freeze structures anymore. :(((

I didn't find any info ref. this change in patch notes back 'til April so I dunno if it is a bug or intended. I've asked in b-net forum for an official info and keep you informed as soon as I get an answer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Emergenza said:

FYI: ATM " EZ-PZ Dimensional Ripper" (L13) doesn't freeze structures anymore. :(((

I didn't find any info ref. this change in patch notes back 'til April so I dunno if it is a bug or intended. I've asked in b-net forum for an official info and keep you informed as soon as I get an answer.

I was unable to find it in any patch notes mentioning this change to Gazlowe's EZ-PZ Dimensional RipperEZ-PZ Dimensional Ripper (quite the opposite actually, in 2015-01-13 patch notes), which makes me believe that it is a bug. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hey guys, Gazlowe is my favorite hero to play and just wanted to start a conversation around a couple of talents. 

Firstly, hyperfocus coils turns an ability I find practically worthless except in very specific  circumstances to a basic ability that can be used in most situations. The change seems so drastic to me that I find it hard to not pick it, considering if I don't I feel like I'm essentially throwing away one of my only 3 basic abilities. I'm curious what people think about the effectiveness of the lazor without the talent, because I feel like he shouldn't need the talent at all: meaning it, or a lesser version should just be incorporated into the basic ability.

 

My second thought is on Reduce, Reuse, Recycle. I have played around with his other talents quite a bit and find this one particularly effective lately. I still use others of course, but Using it I can lay down five or six turrets easily while pushing, making ganking me much harder while split pushing. I bullied Asmodan out of lane. Even many map objectives tend to be next to a lane. An example of this is infernal shrines. The top and bottom shrines are accessible only from the lane itself, and even though the turrets aren't as focused on the objective, they can have a severe impact on team fights as we all know. I guess I'm just looking to get feedback on whether it's ever viable. As in do you see it being used sometimes in high level play and if not a more detailed response as to why. I've been forcing myself to choose different talents that you guys suggest, I just find with this I feel more effective in certain maps.

Sorry about the long text.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Warper said:

a lesser version should just be incorporated into the basic ability.

Do you mean that they should buff the ability itself?

As for the second talent you mention, Reduce, Reuse, RecycleReduce, Reuse, Recycle, it fulfils a similar purpose as ARK ReaktorARK Reaktor, though without having reduced cooldown for Xplodium ChargeXplodium Charge, and being less reliable due to its RNG element. Additionally, heroes with powerful zoning may be able to prevent collecting scrap from minions without taking damage. However, as Gazlowe is not a hero one usually plays to win, but rather to have fun, it is important to find the talents that you like and prefer yourself. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Buffing the base ability yes. Because without hyperfocus coils it seems impractical to use it unless you are really early and waiting.

 

ARK Reactor doesn't reduce the cooldown of Explodium Charge. But yea, I see your point. Thanks!

edit: wow, I definitely read that part wrong. That makes ARK Reactor seem much better XD

Edited by Warper
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your content will need to be approved by a moderator

Guest
You are commenting as a guest. If you have an account, please sign in.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoticons maximum are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By positiv2
      This thread is for comments about our TvZ Hellbat Drop Opening into Mech build order.
    • By positiv2
      This thread is for comments about our TvT: Safe Reaper Expand into Cyclones build order.
    • By Stan

      Voice chat is finally available in Heroes of the Storm and this post by Blizzard will guide you through the basics of the system.
      All players must opt-in to join the team voice channel at the start of a game or upon entering a draft lobby. If you don't have a microphone, you will still be able to hear your team. The voice chat tab in the options menu can be used to adjust all settings to your liking. Use the Test button to hear how you'll sound in-game and don't forget to set up your Push-to-Talk Key.
      Blizzard (Source)
      We’re excited to announce that voice communication is now available in Heroes of the Storm! Whether you find yourself in a draft lobby, partied with a friend or two, or with your whole squad in Team League, voice communication will free your hands from the shackles of typing and make it easier than ever to coordinate with your teammates. Before you head in-game to try it out, take a moment to learn how voice channels work in Heroes and get to know the various settings you can adjust to make voice communication your own.
      Team and Party Voice
      We’ve added voice channels to Heroes of the Storm to accommodate both party voice and team voice. If you’re in a party, you’ll automatically be added to your party’s voice channel, and only party members will hear what you have to say. The opposite is also true: if you’re in a partial party and using the party voice channel, you’ll be unable to speak to or hear allies outside your party unless you switch to the team voice channel.
      By default, all players must opt-in to join the team voice channel at the start of a game or upon entering a draft lobby. A notification will appear in chat to remind you that team voice is available, and you can click it to easily join the channel. Keep in mind that voice channels—even party voice—are completely optional. You can use the new voice chat tab in the options menu to adjust auto-join settings and notification sounds to your heart’s content.
      Voice Settings
      Digging a bit further into voice settings, you can click the dropdown menus at the top to pick which device you’ll use to hear your allies’ voices, and set up the microphone you’d like to use for your own. You can click the Test button to hear how you’ll sound to your teammates in-game. However, even if you don’t have a microphone, you can still join party and team voice channels to listen-in as your allies make plans and shotcall.
      As mentioned previously, the checkboxes under Auto-Join Voice and Notification Sounds on the left side of the voice chat options menu can be used to select which voice channels you’d like to join automatically during each game, as well as to enable or disable any voice notification sounds.
      Click the Transmission Mode dropdown to decide whether you’d like to set your microphone to Push-to-Talk or Open Mic. When using push-to-talk, your allies will only hear you while you’re holding down your push-to-talk hotkey (the ` key by default). With open mic, they’ll hear everything you have to say. If you do opt for an open mic, you can adjust the sensitivity slider to stop your microphone from transmitting sound under a certain volume. Finally, run a quick test to make sure your mic is sounding good and your sensitivity is set correctly—broadcasting noise is a surefire way to get muted by your teammates!
      In addition to push-to-talk, you can set up hotkeys to quickly switch between party and team voice channels, or to turn your microphone on and off. 
      In-Game Voice
      Outside of the voice chat options menu, you’ll see a voice widget appear in the top-left corner of most game menus. Clicking this widget will allow you to quickly join, switch, or leave a voice channel. Once you enter a game, you’ll find this widget on the tab screen.
      You’ll also find microphone and speaker icons across from player names on the tab screen, which you can click to mute or unmute allies individually.
      We’ve also added a new reporting option called Abusive Voice that you can use to report players specifically for misbehavior over voice. Additionally, we’ve implemented a voice silence penalty that’s separate from chat silence penalties. This means that players who are frequently reported for Abusive Voice can receive a voice silence, which will prevent them from speaking in team voice for the duration of that penalty. They can, however, still join the team voice channel to listen to allied comms, and can still join and use the party voice channel normally.
      We hope the addition of voice in Heroes of the Storm will help you and your allies communicate more effectively on the road to your next string of victories, and perhaps make a new friend or two along the way.
      Until next time, we’ll see you in the Nexus!
    • By Stan

      Blizzard implemented voice chat and applied balanced changes and various bug fixes in this week's patch.
      Voice chat is now enabled on live servers and in addition to bug fixes, the following Heroes received balance changes:
      Maiev: The latest changes are aimed at lowering her survivability and burst damage throughput. Malthael: Healing from Soul Ripping Minions decreased, Hero-only healing increased. Mana cost of Soul Rip has been increased to 25. Zeratul: Changes to basic & heroic abilities are meant to redistribute his damage, while giving the Hero a slight buff. Xul: Base stats have been buffed and split-push potential has been toned down. Sonya: Balance changes for Sonya were supposed to go live on January 24, but Blizzard's implemented them just now. The changes include a basic attack damage reduction, Poisoned Spear & Nerves of Steel talent adjustments. Blizzard (Source)
      We’ve just released a patch to the live servers in order to implement Voice Communication, as well as apply some balance updates and bug fixes.
      General
      Voice Communication
      Voice Communication has been added to Heroes of the Storm! Read the Voice Communication blog for more information about how to use it in-game. Heroes
      Assassin
      Maiev

      Stats
      Health reduced from 2236 to 2150 Health Regeneration reduced from 4.66 to 4.48 Abilities
      Vault of the Wardens (Trait) Cooldown increased from 8 to 9 seconds Fan of Knives (Q) Damage reduced from 170 to 162 Talents
      Level 16 Armored Assault (Passive) Damage bonus reduced from 25% to 20% Vengeful Knives (E) Bonus damage per Hero hit increased from 1% to 1.2% Malthael

      Abilities
      Soul Rip (Q) Mana cost increased from 20 to 25 Healing reduced from 36 to 25 per target hit Healing from Heroic targets increased from 3% to 4% of the Hero’s maximum Health Tormented Souls (R) Cooldown reduced from 100 to 80 seconds Talents
      Level 4 Die Alone (Q) Damage bonus reduced from 75% to 50% Level 16 Soul Collector (Q) Bonus range reduced from 50% to 25% Thrall

      Abilities
      Chain Lightning (Q) Bounce range increased by 20% Zeratul

      Abilities
      Cleave (Q) Damage increased from 200 to 212 Singularity Spike (W) Damage increased from 228 to 240 Void Prison (R) Mana cost reduced from 100 to 80 Might Of The Nerazim (R) Basic Attack damage bonus reduced from 40% to 30% Specialist
      Xul

      Stats
      Health increased from 1900 to 2000 Health Regeneration increased 3.957 to 4.168 Basic Attack damage increased from 104 to 110 Abilities
      Raise Skeleton (Trait) Skeletal Warrior Health reduced from 240 to 225 Skeletal Warrior damage reduced from 23 to 21 Bone Prison (E) Cooldown reduced from 12 to 10 seconds Mana cost reduced from 80 to 70 Talents
      Level 7 Trag'Oul's Essence (Trait) Mana restoration per Skeletal Warrior attack reduced from 0.5% to 0.2% of Xul’s maximum Mana Support
      Tyrande

      Abilities
      Light of Elune (Q) Cooldown reduced from 12 to 11 seconds Warrior

      Sonya

      Stats
      Basic Attack damage reduced from 88 to 84 Talents
      Level 7 Poisoned Spear (Q) Damage reduced from 125% to 100% of Ancient Spear’s damage. Level 16 Nerves of Steel (Active) Duration reduced from 5 to 3 seconds Shield amount reduced from 30% to 25% of Maximum Health Cooldown reduced from 70 to 60 seconds Bug Fixes
      Heroes, Abilities, and Talents
      Diablo: Lightning Breath sound effects will no longer stop playing before the Ability is finished channeling. Junkrat: Heroes killed by Concussion Mine will no longer respawn at their death location and then slide across the Battleground. Junkrat: Issuing movement commands during Rocket Ride will no longer cause Junkrat to become separated from his Mount. Junkrat: Movement commands that the player did not issue will no longer appear on the terrain in front of RIP-Tire’s model. Junkrat: Targeting unpathable terrain with Rocket Ride will no longer cause Total Mayhem Grenades to visually persist on the Battleground. Junkrat: Concussion Mine can no longer displace Leoric from Wraith Walk’s starting location if the Mine is detonated in the same moment that Wraith Walk ends. Li Li: After learning the Lighting Serpent Talent, Cloud Serpent attacks that are bouncing to additional targets when the Ability expires will now correctly deal damage. Lt. Morales: The tooltip for the Healing Beam icon next to Lt. Morales’ in-game portrait will now correctly display the Ability’s cooldown duration. Malfurion: An ally who is affected by multiple Regrowths will now be correctly healed by Moonfire and have Stuns, Roots, and Slows removed by Nature's Cure. Movement Abilities: Certain movement-based Abilities, like Greymane’s Darkflight or Chen’s Flying Kick, will no longer fail to move the Hero toward a target currently affected by Varian’s Taunt or Garrosh’s Warlord's Challenge. Sgt. Hammer: Can now correctly deploy Biotic Emitters on Volskaya Foundry while in Siege Mode. The Butcher: Fixed an issue that prevented The Butcher from collecting Meat while piloting the Triglav Protector, Dragon Knight, or Garden Terror.
    • By Stan

      Maiev goes live tomorrow and we have a guide for the latest Warcraft Assassin to join the roster.
      It's time for Maiev to enter the Nexus! Learn more about the latest Hero in our guide!
      Feel free to leave your thoughts, suggestions or guide feedback here. Maiev should go live on February 6, 2018, and this article will be updated with the official patch notes once they are out.
      Maiev Build Guide Maiev Patch Notes Maiev Talent Calculator Blizzard (Source)
      Maiev Shadowsong stood watch over the imprisoned Betrayer for ten thousand years, and hunted him relentlessly after he was released. Some say she’s determined; others say she’s obsessed. Either way, she will stop at nothing to ensure the security of her world. Get all the necessary information and gameplay tips on our newest Assassin Hero, Maiev, The Warden, in this spotlight video!