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I’m in the process of rerolling a tank. My question is: How do I know if I’m doing a good job?
I currently play a hunter and as a DPS the metrics that I use to judge my performance are fairly simple. If I’m consistently sitting in the top X percentile of DPS for my spec and gear; and sitting in at least the bottom half of the raid for damage taken, I can be relatively sure that I’m doing good DPS and doing the mechanics well too.
However, as a tank this falls apart. Damage taken and even damage mitigated are poor metrics because I need to know if I’m taking and avoiding/mitigating the right damage. For example, I may mitigate 95% of the total damage in a fight, but if the 5% that I don’t mitigate is the 5% that is vital to avoid then I have done a poor job. Damage taken is bad because I may only be sitting at the top of damage taken because I didn’t switch when I needed to, therefore taking unnecessary damage.
Staying alive is a poor metric too, just because I’ve stayed alive doesn’t mean that I’ve done a good job. What if I’m only alive because a healer needed to make the choice to keep me alive while I was taking excess damage and sacrifice one or more DPS in the process.
Keeping threat and tank switching etc at the right time is bad as well because there is more to tanking than just mechanics.
I’ve done some reading and apparently there is or was a ranking system for tanks in wowlogs. But after a long look I can’t find it and all the posts relating to this were over 12 months old, so I assume it’s been removed.
I’ve also spoken to our MT about this and his response was ‘I don’t know’. As someone who wants to preform at the highest level possible, I find it unacceptable to not be able to judge how I’m preforming relative to my past self (am I improving?) and other people in a similar position.
So, how do I judge if I’m doing a good job tanking and what areas need to be improved?
Since 7.1.5 it seems that Cinderstorm and/or Meteor are valid options and often outperform Kindle.
How to properly include them in you rotation? Would be great if the guide would highlight the use of them.
Cinderstorm > Rop > Combustion > Instant Pyro > and so on , does this really work to get 5 stacks of pyretic incantation? Cinderstorm on cooldown or only as filler if FB is on CD with HS up? When to use Meteor in Single Target Rotation?
First of all, let's cover uploading your own logs:
1. Go to the WCL site and sign up. You now would be able to upload your logs, logging in with your username or via Battlenet after linking your account:
2. In order to upload the logs, you will need a client application. Download it here.
3. Before starting to log, you have to enable Advanced Combat Logging. Without it being enabled you wouldn't be able to see a lot of vital details like ilvl, talents, gear, artifact traits or resources that are written separately for every fight.
Go to Game Menu (in game) > System > Network. Tick Advanced Combat Logging
4. To enable combat logging in game, go to your chat window and type /combatlog. Now everything you and the players and enemies around you do will be written to a file called WoWCombatLog.txt. The file is sitting in WoW directory > Logs. When you want to stop logging, type /combatlog again or just exit the game.
5. There are two ways you can choose to log. The first is to upload the entire log file after the raid is over. The second way is Live Logging. In this mode you will see the fight on the site right after it ends so can study wipes immediately to see what went wrong.
You can enable Live Logging in WCL uploader before the raid starts:
If you don't need Live Logging, open the WCL uploader after the raid and choose the first option 'Upload a Log'.
Now, what you can search for on the WCL site?
Pressing the button in the left upper corner will allow you to browse through all the logged raid fights, their rankings and statistics:
Very useful option here is to search for the fights with specific filters.
For example I want to know whether my guild would be able to kill Heroic Odyn or we'd better farm more HC EM to gear up. So I'm going to check how many guilds in Europe were able to kill Heroic Odyn in 15-man composition with 3 healers while their ilvl was not higher than 878 during the last week:
We will go to the left upper dropdown menu and choose Odyn Rankings. This is the window we'll get:
Now we should filter our options by clicking on the 'Search' button:
After applying the search filter we'll get a list of raid teams that were able to kill HC Odyn in our composition:
Here you go! There are more than enough kills, you shouldn't worry and may even check some logs for fight or comp tips.
Another very useful feature is to check for usage of a specific gear piece, ability, talent or even enchant. For example, there was a problem with Mark of the Claw enchant not working for resto druids. It was announced recently that the bug was fixed and now it works as intended. It is an expensive enchant so I'd like to check whether it really works before changing to it.
In WCL we can filter the usage of a specific ability, so I'll search for Resto Druids in EU region that were using Mark of the Claw enchant during the last week in the Odyn fight and check whether the enchant proc'ed for them. Type the ability name in the search window:
Now you will receive a list of resto druids that used the Mark:
Then you can open a specific log and check how much the enchant procs during the fight:
There is another kind of search in WCL too: you can look for a specific player, guild or realm logs.
Choosing a player will bring you to their Rankings window.
You should note that the initial window will show you DPS rankings for the highest recorded difficulty in the most current content, no matter what's the player's role in raid (dps/healer/tank).
So if I am a healer and want to check my healing performance in HC EM rather than Mythic EM or HC ToV, I have to apply new filters:
You can click now on any boss and see specific logs for every fight.
If you are searching logs for a guild, you will be redirected to their Calendar so you'd be able to choose one of the raid days. Hovering your mouse above these days will allow you to see the fights list:
If you can't recall the guild name, searching the realm will bring you a list of all the active guilds (those using WCL) there.
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