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The most "cancerous" decks

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Hi,

I would like to ask you, what decks do you think are the most cancerous (as in irritating to play against)?

For me it would be Secret Paladin and Zoo. Secret Paladin and its Dr. 6, sometimes followed by Dr. 7 and/or Tirion. MC is one of the strongest cards in the game, as he can be worth up to 11 mana of cards for just 6 mana. There is Get Down! and Avenge combo in the paladin secrets, but they get played at the same time! 

Then there is zoo with its pesky minion buffing and flooding the board. There is also the Egg+Buff combo, which can ruin your day. Fearlessly tapping, they never fully run out of steam. 

Now, what are the decks you despise and why?

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I don't like playing against Reno decks - I get them down to lethal range and then they play Reno and I'm all "I have to do that again? Dammit."

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I kind-of dread aggro Druids. You know what the game is from the start, they just start relentlessly hitting your face and you know you haven't really got 30 health to play with. Any time from turn 7 onwards they can burst 14 damage or more on you. Sometimes they suffer with the card draw even before they are able to get an AoL out (if they have one) which is nice, but when they don't they're trouble.

Worse though is the Freeze Mage. Fist-chewingly, screaming into a pillow, cat-kickingly frustrating.

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Secret paladin is by far the most disgusting deck in the game right now. Not only is it an auto pilot deck that allows people who belong at rank 10 to get to legend(maybe it is an exageration, but i'm not sure it is too far off), it can also destroy anything else in the game when it gets a good draw, even the so called "counter" decks. I have recently been playing face shaman a lot to counter them, but even though I win most games I still hate playing against them. But I do believe they will eventually be nerfed.

 

Midrange druid comes at second place for me as I consider the deck very easy to play, and it is easily one of the best decks over the whole lifespan of the game. If you put those two things together you have cancer. Not to mention they have shredder as a one drop every other game against me.

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Hey, good news everyone! Thanks to the current Tavern Brawl we now have Freeze Mages that can armour up!

Deep, deep joy.

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Very few things make me salty, but I guess I can come up with some that do.

 

  • Tempo/Casino/Cancer/Whateveritscalled mage: Because losing to a bunch of spammed RNG is annoying as hell.
  • Freeze mage: Does this even need explaining? Spend about 15 turns faffing about trying to think of a way to win only to still end up losing exactly as you expected to 20min earlier, when the game began. Interaction is nice.
  • Any other mage using secrests. Mage secrets are stoopid mkay.
  • Any combo druid (ramp, token, deathrattle, ..) because being able to predict your death 1 or 2 turns in advance and knowing that there's sweet fuck all you can do about it with your current hand is annoying.
  • Mill rogue. I'm not even going to explain this one. Please stop existing.
  • Secret paladin because secrets, secrest and OMFG SECRETS
  • Combowarlock (the facelessPO kind) because I never expect it and then BOOM. Dreams shattered. Souls crushed.
  • Faceshaman for just having too much unstoppable BS going on. One lucky hero power spellpower roll and you can watch the fireworks go off on your face. Throw in a couple lucky RNG rolls as well with the damage for extra salt.
  • Facehunter because the tactic of only going face is mindnumbingly boring to play against.
  • Murlock anythings because frogs are Fernch and nobody likes those. Right? Oui!

 

That should cover it. Sort of.

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Hey, good news everyone! Thanks to the current Tavern Brawl we now have Freeze Mages that can armour up!

Deep, deep joy.

I just used Secret Paladin. But with Majordomo. Majordomo makes everything fun. This brawl was fun, but as long as meta decks win more than "fun decks", the brawl effect was just too weak.

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I don't know about cancerous, but roulette mage tilts me to no end.  I have fairly bad luck in this game, like last game i played a patient assassin popped out of the shredder I killed with geddon's effect and earlier tonight the mech mage I was playing against deathlorded an Andonitas on turn 4 and had the stealth spare part on hand (also I have only played like 10 games tonight), and just some of the stupid stuff that happens with casino mage makes me froth at the mouth.  Aside from that, as a connoisseur of oil rogue and freeze mage, Reno decks make me cry.

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Very few things make me salty, but I guess I can come up with some that do.

 

  • Tempo/Casino/Cancer/Whateveritscalled mage: Because losing to a bunch of spammed RNG is annoying as hell.
  • Freeze mage: Does this even need explaining? Spend about 15 turns faffing about trying to think of a way to win only to still end up losing exactly as you expected to 20min earlier, when the game began. Interaction is nice.
  • Any other mage using secrests. Mage secrets are stoopid mkay.
  • Any combo druid (ramp, token, deathrattle, ..) because being able to predict your death 1 or 2 turns in advance and knowing that there's sweet fuck all you can do about it with your current hand is annoying.
  • Mill rogue. I'm not even going to explain this one. Please stop existing.
  • Secret paladin because secrets, secrest and OMFG SECRETS
  • Combowarlock (the facelessPO kind) because I never expect it and then BOOM. Dreams shattered. Souls crushed.
  • Faceshaman for just having too much unstoppable BS going on. One lucky hero power spellpower roll and you can watch the fireworks go off on your face. Throw in a couple lucky RNG rolls as well with the damage for extra salt.
  • Facehunter because the tactic of only going face is mindnumbingly boring to play against.
  • Murlock anythings because frogs are Fernch and nobody likes those. Right? Oui!

 

That should cover it. Sort of.

Which deck do you think is NOT cancerous lol... 

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I know people say Mill rogue is cancerous but I personally did not think so. You know pretty early on that you are against a mill rogue and you can sort of begin to play accordingly. LAst time I played against one it ended in a pretty fun draw. I brought him down to 7 health or 3 health. HE used Brann BRonzebeard and started using coldlights. Milled himself and me to death.

 

I find secrets generally to be a bit annoying at times. So yes having to deal with a whole portrait full of shiny yellow dots which will buff something the second you attack is annoying. 

 

I used to find priests annoying before face roll paladin, but my face shaman can deal with them fine. The other annoying deck is Warrior after he has Justicar true hearted!

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Which deck do you think is NOT cancerous lol... 

 

 

I don't mind losing to more midrange/control style decks. Sometimes. tongue.png

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Hey, good news everyone! Thanks to the current Tavern Brawl we now have Freeze Mages that can armour up!

Deep, deep joy.

I just used Secret Paladin. But with Majordomo. Majordomo makes everything fun. This brawl was fun, but as long as meta decks win more than "fun decks", the brawl effect was just too weak.

 

Interesting.

 

I did play Freeze Mage in this Tavern Brawl, but mostly because I had both the 'Win 5 Tavern Brawls' and the 'Win 5 times with Mage' quest. And, well, because I like to play Freeze Mage. smile.png

 

All I met were death rattlers and one murloc shaman. Well, sample size was only 7 matches.

 

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Oh, and back to topic:

 

Since, as I said above, Freeze Mage is my favorite constructed deck, the most cancerous deck in the game obviously is Control Warrior. 

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Which deck do you think is NOT cancerous lol... 

 

 

I don't mind losing to more midrange/control style decks. Sometimes. tongue.png

 

If you believe midrange decks are inherently any less cancerous than aggro or combo, you represent everything that is wrong with this game.

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I don't mind losing to more midrange/control style decks. Sometimes. tongue.png

If you believe midrange decks are inherently any less cancerous than aggro or combo, you represent everything that is wrong with this game.

 

So you have bigger problems with decks such as Midrange shaman than with Secret Pally or Freeze mage? You have bigger problems with dragon priest (the midrange builds) than with tempo mage or SMOrc? Midrange decks fight for board control and if you are able to limit their board control, you win. On the other hand, you have face hunter who just goes face and you can only win by healing enough health, dropping taunts or killing them earlier. Combo decks just survive into the late-game, drop the combo and kill you the same or the next turn. Not really fun to be honest.

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I don't mind losing to more midrange/control style decks. Sometimes. tongue.png

If you believe midrange decks are inherently any less cancerous than aggro or combo, you represent everything that is wrong with this game.

 

So you have bigger problems with decks such as Midrange shaman than with Secret Pally or Freeze mage? You have bigger problems with dragon priest (the midrange builds) than with tempo mage or SMOrc? Midrange decks fight for board control and if you are able to limit their board control, you win. On the other hand, you have face hunter who just goes face and you can only win by healing enough health, dropping taunts or killing them earlier. Combo decks just survive into the late-game, drop the combo and kill you the same or the next turn. Not really fun to be honest.

 

I said inherently more cancerous, which is to say I have no problem with many of the decks you have mentioned(and by the way, outside this weeks brawl I think freeze mage is perfectly fine as a deck). But as a whole, I do think decks like midrange druid, hunter and especially secret paladin are a lot more annoying than things like face hunter or aggro pally, as these decks take a lot more decision making to play well with and tend to be a lot more easy to counter too.

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@positiv2 I like playing with combo decks. I guess it reminds me of movies and cartoons as a kid, where the good guy is loosing and getting beat pretty badly and then gets one big power surge or emotional moment and lets it all out at once to turn the tide of battle and defeat the bad guy :)

 

Freeze mage feels more like someone just running away from you while slowing you down, as you're trying to chase them with a sword. Not THAT fun to play against I admit. But I don't hate it.

 

While having a powerful combo coming to deal burst damage may seem unfair I feel there is the downside attached to it of having to control, draw and survive long enough to grab all the pieces. Combo druid it seems does not have this downside since they need only two pieces to combo and the more they get the more powerful and inescapable the burst, and the rest of their cards that help them get to this point, are good on their own too.

 

 

Playing against a combo deck I like to pretend im in one of those episode where if the enemy collects all the parts of a puzzle they can end the world and I have to stop them from getting all the pieces. OFC I will never know how many pieces they have.

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Face and aggro decks.

Omg these decks just makes me go mad.I am a player who keeps the board clear and controlled.But when I have so many minions these player just go my face and finish me.I dont know, I just dont wanna rush things and play late game.I dont mind losing to secret pallys or freeze mages.From time to time I can beat them.But sometimes playing against a mill rogue can be frustrating :P

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any deck with Reno in it - no way should any one card (even a legendary) have that much power to swing the game from one end to the other, a card with no counter and no telltale signs that your opponent holds it in his hand (such as the play of other cards that might synergise with it)

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any deck with Reno in it - no way should any one card (even a legendary) have that much power to swing the game from one end to the other, a card with no counter and no telltale signs that your opponent holds it in his hand (such as the play of other cards that might synergise with it)

 

While I understand where you are coming from, Reno becomes more of a problem when you are facing him with an aggro deck. 

If you have a strong board control, and you opponent has failed to respond to your threats before turn 6, Reno will only delay the inevitable. you can keep pushing for damage, take care of the 4/6 body, not giving him enough time to recover.

 

With enough practice and knowledge about enemy decks, you can at times tell if the opposing is using a reno deck. If the opponent is playing cards you normally wouldn't expect, or cards you know are mediocre because of a better version available, you can expect a reno. (e.g a mage uses arcane explosion instead of arcane missiles, chances are he is using Reno because he was bound by the 1 copy per card use and couldn't use two missiles. Warlock using sunfury protector instead of defender of argus.) If I notice the enemy using such offbeat cards and not using a second copy of anything, I get careful about using all my resources since I will have to take him down back from 30. The second i see him use a second copy of anything, I just go all out because chances are he either doesn't have reno, or wont be able to heal from it too soon.

 

Iceblock + Reno = grrrrrrrrrrrr!

Molten giant + Reno = grrrrrrr!

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For me it's Renolock. They burn their life drawing cards and flooding the board and when you think you might him at lethal, Reno save the day. But I love the variety of construction now. It use to be you see a hero and knew from the start what you are facing. Now you have to feel it out for a few turns before you kind of have and Idea. There are a lot of cards that are being used that people aren't used to facing and it's winning them games. I like that. Me personally, I'm running a Midrange Beast Hunter. But I'm subbing Ram Wrangler for Ball of Spiders. I like it and I'm enjoying it. Isn't that what it's about? My point is the Meta is always changing. Yes SP can be a pain in the ass, and Renolock, and Face Shaman. But the only way to change this is to change your game up and make your own pain in the ass deck. The meta is Rock, Paper, Scissors. one deck does not rule all. Everything has a counter. 

 

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       Always listen to Valkyr for he is Wise. 

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Reno is everywhere now. I just played a Reno Priest and a Reno Hunter. I feel like a war vet because I have seen some shit. But that's what I was saying before, the meta is always changing. These people that I faced sat down and said, "Let me try this and see if it works." And hey, it beat me.But I didn't get salty and say, "F Reno he needs to be nerfed, he is too op," I said well played. Your attitude towards things can effect your game play. Good vibe leads to good laddering.

 

Sorry, I'm in a weird mood today. 

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The only decks I would consider "cancerous" are:

- Tempo Mage

- Secret Paladin

- Aggro Druid

- Face Shaman

Face Hunter is NOT unfair because it has its drawbacks. Early game plays like zombie chow can often throw off their strategy, and boardclears like holy nova can turn the tide of the game. Healing cards like Reno, Bran/Healbot, and Justicar Truehart (for some) can put you out of their range of damage spells allowing for a win. Against hunter, the game can go either way.

Freeze Mage is also not unfair. If you can keep your minions out of the range of blizzard and flame strike, and keep an answer to doomsayer, then beating them should be fairly simple until the late game. Using a loatheb after they play alexstraza will save you a turn to attack, for they will only be able to play 1 spell the following turn. This should be adequate to finish the Mage off.

Warlock zoo/combo decks are not cancerous. If the board can be controlled or cleared before it is too late, then the game is already won (most of the time) Again, zombie chow is great, except against void walker. Board clears like consecration, fan of knives (with a drake), holy nova, light bomb, and hellfire can stifle their small minions, and the board might only have a spectral spider or two left over.

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      2x Mana Wyrm 2x Arcanologist 2x Frostbolt 2x Medivh's Valet 2x Primordial Glyph 2x Sorcerer's Apprentice 2x Arcane Intellect 2x Counterspell 2x Kirin Tor Mage 2x Mirror Entity 2x Fireball 2x Bittertide Hydra 2x Kabal Crystal Runner 2x Bonemare 2x Firelands Portal I’m including a second budget beater this week because Midrange Hunter decks are so commonly recommended as budget options. Secret Mage is a very well positioned deck in the current meta and a deck I played heavily during my own climb to Legend last month. It quietly boasts a better overall winrate than Highlander Priest despite having some of the most polarizing matchups in the entire game. It performs horribly against most of the current aggro decks while completely running over all of the popular control decks. The thing I love most about Secret Mage is that it’s fairly skill intensive. It takes a ton of thought to pilot the deck to it’s maximum potential, which is a bag part of what makes the deck such a blast to play.
       
      Conclusion
      The Hearthstone metagame is as healthy as it's been since the last rotation, and it's a great time to jump back on the competitive ladder if you previously scared off by the brief age of DruidStone. Fans of every single class have at least one solid deck for climbing the ladder, and no individual deck feels as though it's power level is beyond reproach.
      Good luck out there, and I'll see you all next time!
      - Aleco
    • By Zadina

      The big patch we were all expecting is finally live! It contains the removal of arena synergies, the new game mechanics update and the Hallow's End seasonal event.
      Firsly, the patch includes the changes to the sequence of triggers, which we have covered extensively in a separate article. A notable change is the removal of Arena synergy picks. That's not all, though: Vicious Fledgling will no longer appear in Arena, while appearance rate adjustments have been made to some cards.
      The patch also brings Nemsy Necrofizzle, the new Warlock hero, to the Hearthstone client. She is already available from October 17 and we will cover more about her in a next article!
      The October 2017 (Unholy Horror Knights) and November 2017 (Gone Fishing) Ranked Play Season card backs have been added to the client and you can view them below:

      The more exciting part of this patch is Hallow's End! This seasonal event will run for two weeks, from October 24 until November 6. According to Hearthpwn, during its first week we will get a free Whispers of the Old Gods pack and an Arena ticket. During its second week, we will get a free Knights of the Frozen Throne and an Arena ticket.
      The main hero portraits will have unique costumes (make sure to check them out on the Hearthpwn article linked above).  There will be a special Tavern Brawl with unique cards on the week of October 24. Moreover, during Hallow's End the Arena will have a dual class mode. You will choose a hero and then you will choose a hero power from a second hero. Then, you will be able to draft class cards from both heroes, as well as neutral cards. Bear in mind that any Arena run you have in progress will be automatically retired on October 24. You will receive rewards based on the number of your wins and a free Arena ticket.
      Lastly, Patch 9.2 contains various bug fixes. You can read the patch notes here.
    • By Zadina

      Starting from October 17, the new Warlock hero can be obtained from Fireside Gatherings.
      Her looks already betrayed that she's nothing like the evil Gul'dan, but now her voice emotes prove that Nemsy Necrofizzle is surprisingly cute for a Warlock!
      You can obtain the Gnome heroine by participating in a Fireside Brawl at an established Fireside Gathering Tavern. Pay attention to that last part: these places have already hosted 3 Fireside Gatherings in the past and have earned the Tavern banner. So, since a lot of Fireside Gatherings have popped up since Nemsy was announced, make sure you attend one in a proper Tavern!
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      Beginning October 17, attend a Fireside Gathering Tavern near you and play in a Fireside Brawl to add Hearthstone’s newest Warlock Hero to your collection: Nemsy Necrofizzle!

      Don’t let Nemsy Necrofizzle’s small size and penchant for peaches fool you: behind those pigtails and goggles hides one of the most powerful Warlocks alive. Nemsy is utterly fearless, sharp as a razor, and she’s always cool under pressure. After all, you can’t command fel energies or summon horrifying demons from the twisting nether just by being nice. She’s your perky little pal—and a bonafide fel-flinging, soul-destroying mistress of dark forces!

      Nemsy loves it when her foes underestimate her. Appearances can be deceiving, and she knows that it’s what lies beneath the surface that counts.
       

      Join forces with Nemsy Necrofizzle and show your opponents just how adorable soul-devouring destruction can be! From October 17 onward, simply participate in a Fireside Brawl at an established Fireside Gatherings Tavern to add her to your collection.
      Find a Tavern
      Fireside Gatherings Taverns
      Fireside Gathering Innkeepers who have hosted at least one Fireside Gathering with checked-in guests can found a Tavern on the Fireside Gatherings website. Taverns have unique names and Tavern signs that perfectly embody the spirit of their communities. Taverns also persist between Gatherings, so they need your attendance and support to grow!
       

      If you’re wondering whether the Fireside Gathering you’re planning to attend is at an established Tavern, just check the event page! Each Tavern has a tavern sign associated with it, while other Fireside Gatherings use a Fireside Gatherings lantern instead.
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      Fireside Brawls
      Fireside Brawls are special Tavern Brawls that can only be played at Fireside Gatherings! Each month there will be a different Fireside Brawl to try—check the Fireside Gatherings website to find out about the brawl that’s running this month.
      These special brawls run the whole month with no breaks, and they co-exist with the weekly Tavern Brawls. (source)
    • By L0rinda

      The HCT Summer Championship took place from 13-15 October 2017. The top four players advanced to the World Championship in January.
      After three days of competition the winner was   Surrender, who joins Planet Odd teammate Hoej at the World Championship. Surrender won a tense final 3-2 against   Orange, with the final game being a Highlander Priest mirror. In that game, Orange chose to mill Surrender for five cards to attempt to burn the combo, but the attempt failed. The VoD of the final can be found here.
      Listed below are the other finishing positions, and the number of packs you will receive for picking each player as your champion in the "Choose your Champion" promotion.
      Finalists, 4 Packs: Surrender, Orange. 
      Semi-Finalists, 3 Packs: JasonZhou, Purple
      Quarter-Finalists, 2 Packs: Empanizado, OldBoy, Pavel, Tom60229
      All other players were worth 1 Pack.
      All of the decks from the event can be found on our new esports section here.