Massan's Stream Under Scrutiny By Hearthstone Subreddit

Sign in to follow this  

1 post in this topic


Massan has been the subject of Twitch chat memes about viewbots for a long time, however in the last few days this has been taken to a new level. Various streamers have been providing evidence to show that they think the meme might have some foundation. There are also accusations surrounding Massan's behaviour regarding the Pinnacle 3 tournament which he won in February 2015. There are lots of links in the Reddit thread, so I took a look at them all.

The first piece of evidence is a 6 minute YouTube video, which shows that a very large percentage of the people chatting in the channel signed up on the same day as each other. The video then shows how many mutual followers all of these people have, and they all seem to be following almost exactly the same selection of streamers.

The second thing listed is the viewer to chat ratio for several big streamers in the same timeslot. I believe it's actually the chatter to viewer ratio, based on the numbers provided and the methodology used. It shows that Massan's numbers are very out of line with other streamers in the same timeslot, which means that his viewers chat significantly less often than other streamers.


Next listed is YouTuber WizardPoker's playlist of a series of sessions from Reckful's stream where Reckful investigates some numbers connected with Massan's stream. Reckful also chats to Massan about the possibility of viewbots being in the channel. Reckful says to Massan that he has information from Twitch that Massan's channel is being viewbotted, and that if Massan does not know about it he should ask Twitch for help. The playlist includes both Reckful and Massan's ad revenue numbers, times taken for channels to reach peak viewership and some other interesting figures.

There is also a link to Amaz recalling a story from 2014, when he was usually getting under 10,000 viewers. One day, he got heavily viewbotted and the following day there was a post on LiquidHearth suggesting that Amaz was using a viewbot. Amaz, and his team at the time Team Liquid, found that the IP address of the post matched Massan's Skype!

As well as the viewbot issues, there were apparently issues regarding Massan at the Pinnacle tournament. Forsen explains that Massan kept saying that he got disconnected if he got a bad hand, which in his opinion is why Massan always got good hands in the event. During that story Forsen also references a story by Dog about Massan trying to sell tournament spots in return for a percentage of the winnings, or straight up money.

Despite the huge amount of items listed here, there is even more on the thread linked. People can decide for themselves what they make of it.
  • Like 1

Share this post

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Aleco

      In episode two of "What's the Move?" Aleco discusses an open-ended situation which doesn't have a clear answer.
      In episode two of "What's the Move?" Aleco discusses an open-ended situation which doesn't have a clear answer.
      We kicked off this new series by analyzing a tricky situation which had only one optimal line of play. In episode two we'll take a look at a very different kind of situation, one where there might not be a perfect move at all.
      Please let us know in the comments what you would have done in this situation! One of the primary goals of this series is to foster improvement at Hearthstone by generating discussions. We would also love to hear your feedback on the video itself, as the series is still very new and has plenty room to improve on its format.
      - Aleco
    • By Stan

      In the latest Hearthstone update, Blizzard made adjustments to several cards. The patch is now live now on desktop and it should become available on mobile devices in the coming hours.
      Philosophy and reasons behind these changes can be found here.
      Blizzard (Source)
      Card Changes
      Innervate now reads: Gain 1 Mana Crystal this turn only. (Down from 2)
      Fiery War Axe now costs 3 mana.  (Up from 2)
      Hex now costs 4 mana. (Up from 3)
      Murloc Warleader now reads: Your other Murlocs have +2 Attack. (Down from +2 Attack, +1 Health)
      Spreading Plague now costs 6 mana. (Up from 5) 
    • By Zadina

      A new Brawl has landed in the Tavern.
      Just like with the previous expansions, it's time to try out the deck recipes of Knights of the Frozen Throne in this week's Tavern Brawl. The archetypes for each deck recipe are the following:
      Druid: I guess the best name for this deck is Midrange Druid. It has Ultimate Infestation and Spreading Plague, so... PROFIT?! Deathrattle Hunter Elemental Mage Divine Shield Paladin Control Priest (you've probably seen variations of it in ladder) Jade Deathrattle Rogue Freeze Shaman Zoolock Control Warrior with Enrage minions This is a good opportunity to try out cards that you don't own. Good luck and have fun!
    • By Zadina

      The balance patch is arriving in the beginning of the next week.
      The wait is over! The anticipated card balance changes will arrive on September 18th and hopefully freshen up the meta a little bit. As the case always is with balance patches, for the next two weeks if you disenchant Spreading Plague and/or Murloc Warleader, you will get their full value in Arcane Dust.
      In the recent Upcoming Balance Changes – Update 9.1 blog, we discussed the details and philosophy behind balance updates that are coming to several Hearthstone cards:
      Innervate - Now reads: Gain 1 Mana Crystal this turn only. (Down from 2) Fiery War Axe - Now costs 3 mana. (Up from 2) Hex - Now costs 4 mana. (Up from 3) Murloc Warleader - Now reads: Your other Murlocs have +2 Attack. (Down from +2 Attack, +1 Health) Spreading Plague - Now costs 6 mana. (Up from 5)
      This patch is currently targeted for September 18th PDT. Please note that updates for mobile devices may take a few additional hours to propagate.

      Once these card changes are live, players will be able to disenchant cards that are not Basic (Murloc Warleader and Spreading Plague) for their full Arcane Dust value for two weeks. Basic cards cannot be disenchanted and will not be available for an Arcane Dust refund. (source)
    • By Damien
      This thread is for comments about our HCT Americas Summer Playoffs coverage.