Assassination Rogue 7.3

[Guest Titecoukine]

Sprint relic :D

[Vdeku 3]

1 hour ago, Guest Titecoukine said:

Sprint relic :D

i've got cloak of shadow relic. 920.-  and i use a vendetta relic 890 instead. 

same question D: 

[Carrn 284]

3 hours ago, Guest Titecoukine said:

Sprint relic :D

 

2 hours ago, Vdeku said:

i've got cloak of shadow relic. 920.-  and i use a vendetta relic 890 instead. 

same question D: 

Usually I would say Sim it, but given that your current relics provide absolutely no DPS increase, I feel relatively confident recommending the Vendetta ones

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[Furty 51]

7 hours ago, Vdeku said:

i've got cloak of shadow relic. 920.-  and i use a vendetta relic 890 instead. 

same question D: 

 

4 hours ago, Carrn said:

 

Usually I would say Sim it, but given that your current relics provide absolutely no DPS increase, I feel relatively confident recommending the Vendetta ones

Definitely the Vendetta relics.

Master Assassin is worth ~1.15% DPS

+1 weapon item level is worth ~0.10% DPS

[Leprotto 0]

On 19/6/2017 at 1:24 PM, Blainie said:

Will ask him to add it to the rotations section. I believe you essentially max combo points, pop TB, then push for as many envenoms as possible. 

push as many envenoms as possible regardless the CP or is always 4+ envenoms?

it is reccomended to pool before TB?

[Vdeku 3]

Yo! hello Furty ! i have questions ha ha

opening:

1. Apply  Garrote. 
2. Cast  Mutilate.
3. Apply  Rupture.
4. Cast  Mutilate.
5. Activate  Vendetta.
6. Cast  Mutilate.
7. Cast  Toxic Blade.
8. Cast  Envenom.
9. Cast  Kingsbane.
10. Cast  Mutilate to 5 Combo Points and pool.
11. Activate  Vanish.
12. Cast  Envenom.
13. Cast  Mutilate.
14. Cast  Envenom.

if i have leg shoulders,  It would be something like this? :
1.garrote , 2.mut , 3.rupture , 4.mut , 5.vendetta , (4 combo points there) , 6. KB (yes,  overcap combopoints  :'(  ) , 7.vanish , 
8. envenom , 9.mut , 10.TB  , 11.full buffed envenom , 12.mut , 13. 4cb envenom.
 

or u have another sugestion ? 

 

[Guest Ischadie]

I noticed that Draught of Souls is removed from the trinket list, but still mentioned in the blurb for the Mantle of the Master Assassin. Is it worth continuing to use as long as I have Mantle equipped? 

[Valks 2,373]

On 6/27/2017 at 2:24 PM, Leprotto said:

push as many envenoms as possible regardless the CP or is always 4+ envenoms?

it is reccomended to pool before TB?

Always 4+ and yeah.

[Valks 2,373]

On 6/28/2017 at 4:44 PM, Vdeku said:

or u have another sugestion ?

Why are you using TB after Kingsbane? You are missing out on buffing the damage there.

[Valks 2,373]

37 minutes ago, Guest Ischadie said:

I noticed that Draught of Souls is removed from the trinket list, but still mentioned in the blurb for the Mantle of the Master Assassin. Is it worth continuing to use as long as I have Mantle equipped? 

Not if you have a better trinket available, no.

[Shangrila 0]

I don't feel that thugee makes a difference anymore when you have t-20 2 set the bonus reduces the garrote cool-down to only three seconds. Which isn't that long at all so now use one of the other talents for more damage output.

Edited July 16, 2017 by Shangrila

[Valks 2,373]

On 16/07/2017 at 5:08 AM, Shangrila said:

I don't feel that thugee makes a difference anymore when you have t-20 2 set the bonus reduces the garrote cool-down to only three seconds. Which isn't that long at all so now use one of the other talents for more damage output.

Realistically, the other 2 talents are just as useless, unless you can take advantage of a stunnable add - Thugee can still work well where there are smaller adds that die incredibly quickly or if you, as many might not, don't have the T20 set bonus.

[Guest iHaveDream]

On 02.07.2017 at 6:00 PM, Blainie said:

Why are you using TB after Kingsbane? You are missing out on buffing the damage there.

Did u mean, u are aiming to buff KB with TB, but only the last part of it (kinda 9 seconds of Kingsbane dot will be buffed by TB).

So my question is: Should i use  TB with KB (no matter how long KB's dot is on the target?)

[Valks 2,373]

On 24/07/2017 at 1:45 PM, Guest iHaveDream said:

Did u mean, u are aiming to buff KB with TB, but only the last part of it (kinda 9 seconds of Kingsbane dot will be buffed by TB).

So my question is: Should i use  TB with KB (no matter how long KB's dot is on the target?)

I misread what you had written - you want to make sure you TB with 8 seconds left on KB and pool your CP/energy to do as much in those 8 seconds as possible, to ensure as much poison is applied/boosted.

[Vetinari 0]

21 hours ago, Blainie said:

I misread what you had written - you want to make sure you TB with 8 seconds left on KB and pool your CP/energy to do as much in those 8 seconds as possible, to ensure as much poison is applied/boosted.

I've found something that may be interesting for you guys, when specced into Nightstalker, then switching to Subterfurge, first Garrote you cast gets the benefit from Nightstalker dmg amplifier, it seems to work only with Garrote, rupture doesnt get the buff.

Can you please check it too?

Sequence: Unstealth, Use Talents tome, Switch to Nightstalker, Stealth, Switch to Subterfurge, cast Garrote on target.

I'm sure it's not the buff from Subterfurge or Concordance/Engine.

Edited July 27, 2017 by Vetinari
removed formatting

[Valks 2,373]

On 27/07/2017 at 11:02 AM, Vetinari said:

I've found something that may be interesting for you guys, when specced into Nightstalker, then switching to Subterfurge, first Garrote you cast gets the benefit from Nightstalker dmg amplifier, it seems to work only with Garrote, rupture doesnt get the buff.

Can you please check it too?

Sequence: Unstealth, Use Talents tome, Switch to Nightstalker, Stealth, Switch to Subterfurge, cast Garrote on target.

I'm sure it's not the buff from Subterfurge or Concordance/Engine.

That sounds odd - I'll ask Furty to check it but I'm not sure we can include it in the guide, since it would technically be a bug.

[Valks 2,373]

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[Valks 2,373]

This guide has now been updated for the 7.3 patch. If you have any questions or comments, you can always ask them here. If you find any errors in the new changes to the guide, let me know and I'll get the writers to update it ASAP.

Good luck in the Shadows of Argus!

[Guest Mr Lucky]

I was just reading through the add-ons and macros page and wanted to mention a simple macro that I use. It might have been mentioned before, but it is especially useful now with the rogue pickpocketing weekly quest for the coins of air.

Any attack that I am likely to use from stealth has a /pickpocket before the /"ability". Pretty self-explanatory what it does, I guess, but basically, you just hit one button to pickpocket and then immediately garrote, or whatever. Never get pulled out of stealth before your opener, and you'll have more coins of air than you know what to do with! 

[Carrn 284]

12 hours ago, Guest Mr Lucky said:

I was just reading through the add-ons and macros page and wanted to mention a simple macro that I use. It might have been mentioned before, but it is especially useful now with the rogue pickpocketing weekly quest for the coins of air.

Any attack that I am likely to use from stealth has a /pickpocket before the /"ability". Pretty self-explanatory what it does, I guess, but basically, you just hit one button to pickpocket and then immediately garrote, or whatever. Never get pulled out of stealth before your opener, and you'll have more coins of air than you know what to do with! 

Make sure you have Auto Loot turned on before doing this, but yes this works

[Valks 2,373]

17 hours ago, Guest Mr Lucky said:

I was just reading through the add-ons and macros page and wanted to mention a simple macro that I use. It might have been mentioned before, but it is especially useful now with the rogue pickpocketing weekly quest for the coins of air.

Any attack that I am likely to use from stealth has a /pickpocket before the /"ability". Pretty self-explanatory what it does, I guess, but basically, you just hit one button to pickpocket and then immediately garrote, or whatever. Never get pulled out of stealth before your opener, and you'll have more coins of air than you know what to do with! 

Will definitely start doing this on my Rogue alt. Even with just world quests and the odd dungeon, I'm sure it'll be enough.

[Guest Team]

Does anyone know if there is a page regarding stat priority, talents, and rotation guides for 7.3 assassination rogues??

[Carrn 284]

10 hours ago, Guest Team said:

Does anyone know if there is a page regarding stat priority, talents, and rotation guides for 7.3 assassination rogues??

If you look at the right hand sidebar on the Assassination Guide, you'll see links to the different sections that contain all that information

[Carrn 284]

Hey @Blainie I'm not entirely sure when this happened but the t20 4 set bonus got patched to 60% damage boost on Garrote over 40% previously. Tooltips all reflect the change, there's just some text which lists the 40% still

[Valks 2,373]

10 hours ago, Carrn said:

Hey @Blainie I'm not entirely sure when this happened but the t20 4 set bonus got patched to 60% damage boost on Garrote over 40% previously. Tooltips all reflect the change, there's just some text which lists the 40% still

Will get it updated!