Sibelius

Shadow AOE Instructions

Sign in to follow this  

8 posts in this topic

Say I walk into the Eye of Azshara and 6 NPCs are pulled, as a Shadow Priest, what exactly do I do? Do I tab through them all and DoT them all up, then Mind Sear them? Do I just dot 2 or 3 of them, followed by a Mind Sear. Do I even dot any of them and just Mind Sear?

I hope someone can give me a clear and concise explanation of how such AOE would be executed.

Would be helpful!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In dungeons I'm generally running shadow crash since its very good for packs.

what I do (and in my opinion with good results) is the following

  • cast vampiric touch on everything, its duration will allow you to put it on up to (about) 20 targets at the same time so it shouldn't be a problem getting it on most of the mobs you'll be facing
  • cast shadow word pain on 3-4 mobs maximum, preferably the longer lived ones.
  • cast shadow crash
  • (if voidform is not available yet) cast mind sear to generate insanity
  • cast void eruption to enter voidform
  • keep channeling mind sear.

Now one thing to note (something I found out much later than I care to admit) is void eruption will actually deal damage to all targets with a dot on them, dealing twice as much to targets with both your dots. This makes your entering voidform a large explosion of damage

since shadow crash has a 3 second travel time, it will usually land on the pack at the same time you activate void eruption after which you immediately channel mind sear for some very good burst aoe.

it requires some setup but when it hits it truly does explode on the meter. I've seen myself going from 100k dps while still spreading dots to 500k+ in a matter of seconds.

 

oh and make sure to cast all your vampiric touches first before casting any swpain. this is because if you:

Vtouch>swpain>tab>Vtouch>swpain>tab>Vtouch>swpain

it takes much longer than doing

Vtouch>tab>Vtouch>tab>Vtouch>swpain>tab>swpain>tab>swpain.

The reason for this is because Vtouch has a cast time and swpain is instant cast. I dont know how to explain it well but using the first sequence will make you lose about 2 global cooldowns that could very well be spent on other spells.

 

keep in mind that very short lived packs (generally they will come in bigger groups) are not worth dotting at all.

think about the trash before the dragon boss in Darkheart thicket. I usually just resort to channeling mind sear on the tank for almost that entire part.

give it a try like this and please tell me if this helped.

 

Edited by Shine
  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Shine, seems to be working well for me. Thanks again!

My only challenge is tab targeting, as sometimes I end up targeting the same add a few times, before I get the right one to dot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

yeah tab targeting can be pretty risky Ive ninjapulled a pack more than once for using tab (hunters always get blame THANK GOD).

target however you like.

glad to hear its working out keep at it and git gud

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Heya!

I was and I Am still faceing the AOE issue in mythic+ runs.

I had no chance to test your method yet Shine.

However I'd like to ask something.

I saw another guy in a youtube gameplay video he did cast SWP on all the thrash 1st.  That made his SA spawn after the crits and his Horror Slimes started to spawn and AOE the pacs. Isn't this method better then casting all the VTs at 1st?

 

Thanks for you feedback.

 

Cheers,

Faith

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would say that it would depend on how long adds will be alive. the reason to cast VT first is because it has a longer duration, therefore giving you more uptime on dots when you use void eruption.

our general rotation page reads:

 

5.5.2. Multiple Targets

You will have a difficult time keeping both Shadow Word: Pain IconShadow Word: Pain and Vampiric Touch IconVampiric Touch constantly up for more than 3 targets at any given time when trying to enter Voidform IconVoidform. For 4-6 targets you should apply Vampiric Touch to all targets first, then apply Shadow Word: Pain to 2-3 immediately before casting Void Eruption IconVoid Eruption for maximum effect.

Vampiric Touch has a duration of 18 seconds, longer than Shadow Word: Pain's 14-second duration. For many targets (6+), to maximise the amount of damage that Void Eruption will do, you should begin casting Vampiric Touch on as many of them as possible starting around half Insanity (20/70 if you have Legacy of the Void IconLegacy of the Void, 50/100 otherwise; this will also be lower if you have Shadow Word: Void IconShadow Word: Void), only replacing fillers like Mind Flay IconMind Flay and Mind Spike IconMind Spike with Vampiric Touch.

 

as for the other guy, it might be possible he has Mangaza's MadnessMangaza's Madness. in that case theres a reasonable chance he took the Shadowy Insight talent which pushes SW: pain up in the priority list. This is actually a method I use myself since I have this legendary now too.

 

another thing to keep in mind is that SW:pain is instant cast and therefore smart to cast when theres movement.

 

If you do try out the method I listed in my earlier post, let me know what you think.

keep on keeping on.

Shine

Edited by Shine

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Deydoridra
      Hey guys,
      I'm new to playing affliction lock and ranged DPS in general really. Can someone help me see why my DPS isn't where it should be? I've changed my stats around and have been playing with my legendaries and rotation but I can't seem to improve. If someone has some ideas it would be much appreciated. 
      https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/arathor/syraice
      https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/71tcn24XFqBpZf9a/#view=rankings&boss=-2&difficulty=0
    • By bowsersfury
      Hello, 
      I am concerned that I am severely under performing as a fury warrior. I can manage to parse typically in the 80s for almost every fight in heroic ToS with a few exceptions: Mistress, Host, Avatar. I'm currently 933 equipped and I'm not at all concerned about my stats... I know I should and could be parsing in the 90s. But I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. 
       
      My opener looks something like this: Charge, Pop Moonglaives trinket, Pop all CDS, Raging Blow, Oden's Fury, Rampage, then start normal priority rotation: Enraged RB>100 rage Rampage>RB>BT>FS. 
       
      I have recently discovered that I have been doing my execute phase entirely wrong. I just went and tried first two bosses of heroic ToS again. Parses went up slightly... Goroth: 83->89, Inquis:84->90 but still not where I need to be. 
      Another think I'd like to mention is that I try to prioritize Enraged RB @100 rage before hitting rampage. According to Kelade (one of top fury warriors in US), this is 100k dps difference. Although at times I find myself in an awkward situation where I'm at 100 rage with RB on CD and I literally have to wait a whole global to hit it... I'd like to know how to make that stop lol. 
       
      Last issue I'd like to bring up is this: Most of the time not all my CDs will line up perfectly together... BC, glaives, OF will be up but Avatar will be down. I'm slightly confused about when to use All/some of my cds... especially on fights like heroic KJ. Fights like Harj and Miss I'm confused about if I should hold all my cds for adds or blow them in the beginning along with prepot... I feel like prepot is a total waste without cds...
       
      Below you will find the link to my armory and logs. Please Help me. I need to be parsing much higher than I am. My guild is doing mythic and I don't want to be the one holding us back.  
       
      https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/stormrage/bòwser
      https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/26903184
    • By Ashiraya
      Hello! My priest https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/argent-dawn/lilein has amassed quite the collection of trinkets and I am not sure which ones to pick. 
      I have:
      925 Naraxas' Spiked Tongue with socket
      910 int/haste stat stick with speed
      915 Tarnished Sentinel Medallion
      915 Terror From Below
      915 Charm of the Rising Tide
      Which ones are best? I usually look at the guides for this kind of thing but strangely the spriest guide lacks trinket recommendations. :(
    • By Mezasu
      I've been playing a hunter for as long as I've been playing this game.  And for the first time in raiding, I feel like I am not doing my best and I cannot figure out why. I look at second by second rotations of top parsing hunters. In the past I was the one helping others out and writing small guides on forums...now I'm the one asking for help. 
      Here is a link to Goroth Mythic (my hunter's name is Mezäsu):
      https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KjRvcMqbYGrp16Bt#fight=3
      I am very open to criticism and any help anyone has to offer.
      I tried going into the Discord to ask for help there but was not able to get a word in (as the helpers were busy with other people). Hoping I may have better luck here.
    • By Seagaard
      Hello! Just another desperate warrior, seeking to improve in any possible way!
      Im Seagaard, from Ravencrest: https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/ravencrest/seagaard
      Im struggling doing as much DPS as i would want, and i am looking into possible changes. I know a 4 set bonus will be an obvious improvement, but i just dont think that is the only thing that makes my dps lack. 
      Here is a log of me wiping (alot) with my guild on Avatar.  https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/K6XLCHaAvZ2r7G1y#fight=3&view=analytical&type=damage-done&source=1
      I know its not much, but there is a couple of good tries in there. 
      Any help or criticism is appreciated :)