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hearthstone Disguised Toast: Weasel Tunneler Experiments

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YouTuber, Disguised Toast, is never far from the front of Hearthstone science, and his latest video is spectacular. This video investigates the strange interactions caused by Weasel Tunneler's Deathrattle.

Weasel Tunneler's Deathrattle seems simple enough, it reads: Shuffle this minion into your opponent's deck. However, when tested by Disguised Toast, it turns out that even this simple looking text can result in rather odd results. The ordering of other Deathrattles on the board, and effects by other cards on Deathrattles is what makes it so unpredictable. Take a look for yourself!

The fact your deck displays as full, no matter how many cards left, is probably the strangest interaction of all. Even Toast doesn't  attempt to describe how that one happens.

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The only thing that I don't understand is why Blizzard haven't hired Disguised Toast to (pre-release) play-test Hearthstone.  

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My thoughts throughout this video: "????"

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14 hours ago, mimech said:

The only thing that I don't understand is why Blizzard haven't hired Disguised Toast to (pre-release) play-test Hearthstone.  

Because NDA would make it impossible for him to make videos off of it. This way we have more fun and he can make videos out of it. Also, this bug has been known since day one, as can be seen in the video I posted above. Additionally, Blizzard does not really care about these bugs, as can be seen with Entomb and Djinni of Zephyrs.

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11 hours ago, positiv2 said:

Blizzard does not really care about these bugs

A thing you cannot know.

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3 hours ago, mimech said:

A thing you cannot know.

I just gave you the perfect example: 

14 hours ago, positiv2 said:

as can be seen with Entomb and Djinni of Zephyrs.

At first it was intentional, then Brode changed his mind and said it was unintentional and we were told it'd fixed, but it still has not been fixed. Also, there is a list of known bugs. Some of them date back to Naxx. Are you still sure I cannot know that they don't really care?

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6 hours ago, positiv2 said:

Also, there is a list of known bugs

I was expecting a few, but not 15 pages :(

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12 hours ago, positiv2 said:

there is a list of known bugs.

They have a list, ergo they care. [My supposition.]

OR

They have a list which they haven't yet addressed, ergo they don't care. [Your supposition.]

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Neither of us can know for sure whether they care, unless they tell us.  They haven't told me: have they told you?

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12 minutes ago, mimech said:

They have a list, ergo they care. [My supposition.]

OR

They have a list which they haven't yet addressed, ergo they don't care. [Your supposition.]

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Neither of us can know for sure whether they care, unless they tell us.  They haven't told me: have they told you?

The list was made and is maintained by people outside of Blizzard/Activision. Blizzard support told me (a few months back) that they know about the list. This is why I assume they don't care that much. 
Now, these bugs are often quite niche (I mean, who plays Djinni anyway), so I don't really blame them for not fixing the bugs as they want to spend their time doing something that has effect on the whole playerbase, such as new interesting brawls, but what makes me sad is that they promise to fix bugs that they never actually do anything about. 

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I'm a programmer by trade, so my timescales are perhaps more pragmatic than most people.  That is: just because I haven't fixed the bug, it doesn't mean that I don't want to, or that I don't care about it, or that I have no intention of ever doing so.  However: pragmatism in a commercial enterprise often comes to the fore (as you describe), and the time to optimize gets squeezed (leading to the first rule of optimization: "don't do it").

I guess I was taken aback by the absolute (and somewhat denigrating) nature of the phrase "Blizzard does not really care".  I would myself suggest (given the caveat of my complete lack of knowledge of their internal thought processes) that perhaps they do care, but are working to a strict timetable with limited resources.

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56 minutes ago, mimech said:

I guess I was taken aback by the absolute (and somewhat denigrating) nature of the phrase "Blizzard does not really care".  I would myself suggest (given the caveat of my complete lack of knowledge of their internal thought processes) that perhaps they do care, but are working to a strict timetable with limited resources.

That's why I said "Blizzard does not really care about these bugs", by which I meant that they do not care enough to spend more time fixing non-gamebreaking bugs. I guess I should have used a different phrasing.

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On 12/8/2016 at 9:12 PM, positiv2 said:

I guess I should have used a different phrasing.

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