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Why is the Nighthold tier set good?

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Hello all,

After plenty of weeks doing Mythic + and a bit of the nighthold, my return to wow and the mage class has been fantastic. I'm absolutely in love with frost mage and I'm hoping the upcoming nerfs for ToS won't completely destroy it. With my experience, I believe I understand the frost mage's ins-and-outs. With all this said, I was wondering about the tier set bonus for the nighthold gear and why people bother to get the 4 set bonus.

Before I go any further, I think the 10% increased chance for brain freeze is really strong. Its the 5% chance for fingers of frost that irks me. I don't think that is a strong bonus considering the fact that you are forced to wear the tier gear which promotes a lot of mastery, specifically the hood, robes, and cloak. I personally think that it would be smarter to get the 2 set bonus, and then get gear that promotes crit (before shatter), haste, and versatility.  

I could easily be wrong and, considering I've seen a lot of high-end frost mages wear the mythic tier set, I probably am wrong. But I am very curious as to why as my thoughts seems more logical. Is the 5% bonus really that good?

Thank you for reading. 

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As a fire mage, I find the tier set bonus is great, but the poor secondary stats on the gear itself alleviates most of the advantage of the bonus (depending on your gear).

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