Cereberus

Frost DK - What am I doing wrong

Sign in to follow this  

8 posts in this topic

Hey guys.

So almost every raid, I compare myself to the other DK in group, and cannot figure out why there is always a decent difference in DPS between us.

First...my Logs link:  https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/whisperwind/imnotdedyet

 

I know I am doing decent DPS, but never quite the same as him. We have same talents that matter, legos are comparable I think...I do have the lego helm, just swapped it for the bracers. The only main difference I can find is that he has higher base stats than me. So does the base stats make that big of a difference? Is it merely a RNG hates me issue?

 

THanks guys!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

to add to my questions, is there an optimal stack number to wait for, on the Pillars of Frost buff? I think I was typically around 13 stacks or something during raid last night.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just looked at a couple logs, you are not prioritizing CD's properly.  You are popping Pillar of Frost on CD and only getting about 5s of it affecting your BoS.  This will dramatically scale up your major burst damage.  For your other question though, I am playing around with the idea of holding stacks until breath is up to further increase burst, prioritizing holding if adds are about to spawn also.  On mistress, it looks like you take a bit to start your Breath also (30s into Fight), i generally burn all my runes up on, wait for the next set to come off CD and start up the burst.  For you that would be to combine your Horn and Pillar right after you start breath. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, laughingnome said:

All your gear looks good, except for the one piece that may matter most. Your weapon is only 843. You need to fix that.

Not really sure why it said that..but my weapon is actual 927

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd change those trinkets to something with +str baseline... I'm 908 to your 919 ilvl and I have 3k more strength.. that is quite a lot.

Next, don't cast Sindragosa's Fury until you have Razorice up to 5 stacks... you have casted on the pull in most of the logs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Horn and Engine are not bad if you use them right.  Which by the looks of your desolate host heroic kill you were doing it right.  The biggest thing you can do to min/max your dps is just make sure to get as much damage out of your Breath as possible with having the full duration of CD's during Breath.  For Sindragosa's Fury, you can save it for the 5 stacks of razor ice, but i mostly just hold for when adds are up (trying to sync it with my Pillar of Frost CD also).  If you were going to replace a trinket for any reason, I would try and go back for a heroic CoF.  It still helps to sync up your Breath with HRW.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I gotta second what @Matster said before me. Frost completely revolves around the proper management of Breath, it should always be your most or second most damaging ability. If you take a look at https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8mhYQ47AydNk9Fb1#fight=1&type=damage-done Goroth, there is a massive difference between your and the other DK's Breath damage and uptime. Since your gear seems to not be an issue, I would recommend you mainly focus on learning how to keep BoS active effectively, and try to line up your CD's together with breath. There are also several videos on YouTube about maintaining breath, should you need something more visual.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By knight85
      Noob seeking arrangements to meet in EU Doomhammer Silvermoon and Ironforge to sign bank guild charters. and help add alts afterwards.
      willing to tip.
      also willing to trade for guild (if players still do that)
    • By knight85
      evening ladies and gents.
      i've got a question about the blizzard store's race change.
      at the minute i have a pandaren horde hunter. but i'm giving some thought to doing a race change to an orc.
      i just want to check before i do anything. that if i do my race change. will i still keep all the pets i had before the change?
       
       
    • By Moca
      Hi guys, I got some issues with my dps,
       
      I'm struggling to maintain over 650k dps...
       
      I'm new to fury warrior, was a mythic raider with my assassination rogue but... with the warrior it seems like I'm not doing something well...
       
      Here is what I do :
       
      OPENER
       
       
      Charge -> AVATAR+BC+Berserktroll -> BT -> RB -> RP -> OF …
       
       
      Trying to maintain enrage with BT or RP > RB > etc.. (normal rotation)
       
       
      I’m always tring to use RP at 100% rage,
       
       
      Do I have to clip it with BT ?
      I mean, when I’m enraged, my rotation is :
       
       
      RP (100% rage) -> RB -> BT -> RB > RP(100% rage)… with my +15% crit fillers
      I’m trying to pop OF everytime that I’m enraged (with BC if possible),
       
       
      I don’t have any set bonuses. No COF and no “good trinkets”…
       
       
      Execution phase :
      BT > EXEC EXEC… > BT > EXEC EXEC…
       
       
      I can’t link my armory…
       
       
      I’m Moca, War fury from SARGERAS EU
       
       
      Am I missing something ?
       
      I think that I'm supposed to be way higher, like 850k+...
       
      Thank you !
       
      Sorry, I'm french and new to fury, if you got some questions, don't hesitate :)
       
    • By xTincan17x
      Hey folks, I always just ignored the Hellfire options, since I really only play solo when I have time (which is rare). When should I consider utilising the Hellfire jewelry?
      I once experimented with a max lvl 70 toon, and crafted both the ring and amulet, and they were pointless.
      I did research at the time, and found it is great for lower level toons.

      That being said, should I bother with lower level toons? If so, when? Can someone point me to why hellfire anything is useful, as my lvl 70 had way better stuff, and I'm thinking if I craft with my new toon (lvl 18 now but will change 20 times in the next 2 hours) it'll be outdated in minutes....
      So yeah, can someone explain when/why these are useful?
    • By Demrottens
      Okay so I just started my first WoW player since 2009, and I completed all first mandatory missions and some misions to allow me do certain things like missions to show me how to pet a monster. Then, I skipped everything, me being level 2 undead and went to lvl 13 area (as I usually do in all MMOs) and farmed a bit until lvl 4 then I got bored and accidentally used a zepelin that flew me to Orgrimmar so I took advantage and went to lvl 17 area me being lvl 4 until reach lvl 6 and went to an area with lvl from 17 to IDK lvl and killed one lvl 17 deer then I went to some kind of troll or whatever that was lvlv 20, me being lvl 6 and killed it, I again got bored instantly and went farther through that rollercoaster until I reach the end and monsters there instead of a level have a skull which I assume means their lvl is 15 or 20 lvls more then mine, killed some with ease but I realised I only got 96 EP per kill, which is so little for me being lvl 7 or 6 and needing 5000 EP to levelup
      Do those skull level monsters give only a bit of experience, or all monsters I kill give EP depending on my own level, not on their own? Or is just that WoW works like this and if I kill a lvl 12 monster (twice my lvl, 6 lvls of difference) they would give me like 23 EP? 
      Is it always this hard to level up in WoW?