Jump to content
FORUMS
Stan

Patch 8.2: Conflict and Strife PvP Essence

Recommended Posts

42916-patch-82-heart-of-azeroth-updates.

An interesting new Essence has been added to 8.2 PTR yesterday called Conflict and Strife. It allows for the use of a single predetermined PvP talent for each Class in PvE and we have the full list.

If you're late to the party, check out our Heart of Azeroth Changes and the Introduction to Essences in Patch 8.2 to learn about upcoming changes to the system in Rise of Azshara.

Conflict and Strafe (8.2 Build 30495)

The Essence serves as a nice modifier, allowing each Class to use a predetermined PvP talent in PvE, which is different for each specialization.

Rank Source Major Power Desc Minor Power Desc Major Power Actual Minor Power Actual
1 Claim a weekly PVP War Chest in Season 3 or later. Conflict Strife Conflict Strife
2 Reach 1000+ rating then claim your next weekly PVP War Chest in Season 3 or later. Conflict Strife Conflict Strife
3 Collect Burgeoning Battlefield Furor from your weekly War Chest. Conflict Strife Conflict Strife
4 Reach the rank of Elite in the week then claim your next weekly PVP War Chest in Season 3 or later. Conflict Strife Conflict Strife

We datamined the following PvP talents related to Conflict and Strife in the latest 8.2 PTR build:

Death Knight Death Knight

  • BloodUnholy Command Unholy Command -  Your Death Grip has two charges.
  • FrostChill Streak Chill Streak - Deals up to 6% of the target's total health in Frost damage and reduces their movement speed by 70% for 4 sec. Chill Streak bounces up to 9 times between closest targets within 6 yards.
  • UnholyNecrotic Strike Necrotic Strike - A vicious strike that deals [ 30% of Attack Power ] Plague damage, and converts 1 Festering Wounds into a Necrotic Wound, absorbing up to 7% of the target's maximum health in healing recieved.

Demon Hunter Demon Hunter

  • HavocDemonic Origins Demonic Origins - The cooldown of Metamorphosis is reduced by 2 min, but now lasts 15 sec.
  • VengeanceCleansed by Flame Cleansed by Flame - Immolation Aura dispels all magical effects on you when cast.

Druid Druid

  • BalanceMoonkin Aura Moonkin Aura - Starsurge grants 4% spell critical strike chance to 8 allies within 40 yards for 18 sec, stacking up to 3 times.
  • FeralLeader of the Pack Leader of the Pack - While in Cat Form, you increase the melee and ranged critical chance of raid members within 40 yards by 5%. Leader of the Pack also causes affected targets to heal themselves for 4% of their maximum health when they critically hit with a melee or ranged attack. The healing effect cannot occur more than once every 6 sec.
  • GuardianSharpened Claws Sharpened Claws - Maul increases the damage done by your Swipe and Thrash by 25% for 6 sec.
  • RestorationOvergrowth Overgrowth - Instantly applies Lifebloom, Rejuvenation, Wild Growth, and Regrowth's heal over time effect to the target.

Hunter Hunter

  • All SpecsSurvival Tactics Survival Tactics - Feign Death removes all harmful magical effects, and reduces damage taken by 99% for 1.5 sec.

Mage Mage

  • ArcaneArcane Empowerment Arcane Empowerment - Clearcasting can now stack 2 additional times, and increases the damage of Arcane Missiles by 5% per stack. Clearcasting no longer reduces the mana cost of Arcane Explosion.
  • FireFlamecannon Flamecannon - After standing still in combat for 2 sec, your maximum health increases by 3%, damage done increases by 3%, and range of your Fire spells increase by 3 yards. This effect stacks up to 5 times and lasts for 5 sec.
  • FrostConcentrated Coolness Concentrated Coolness - Frozen Orb's damage is increased by 10% and is now castable at a location with a 40 yard range but no longer moves.

Monk Monk

  • BrewmasterHot Trub Hot Trub - Purifying Brew deals 30% of your purified staggered damage to all enemies within 10 yards.
  • MistweaverWay of the Crane Way of the Crane - Increases your Physical damage by 25%, you remove and become immune to all snare and root effects and you heal up to 3 nearest allies for 150% of all damage done. Lasts 15 sec.
  • WindwalkerReverse Harm Reverse Harm - Heals a friendly target for 8% of their maximum health, and causes 100% of the amount healed to instantly be dealt to the nearest enemy as Nature damage within 5 yards.

Paladin Paladin

  • HolyDivine Favor Divine Favor - Your next Holy Light or Flash of Light is increased by 100%, costs no mana and is unable to be interrupted.
  • ProtectionSteed of Glory Steed of Glory - Your Divine Steed lasts for an additional 2 sec. While active you become immune to movement impairing effects, and you knock back enemies that you move through.
  • RetributionUnbound Freedom Unbound Freedom - Blessing of Freedom also increases movement speed by 30%.

Priest Priest

  • DisciplinePremonition Premonition - Heals nearby targets within 20 yards for [ 75% of Spell Power ], and applies Atonement to yourself. Deals [ PS * BC1 ] Shadow damage to yourself for each Atonement you have active, and increases their duration by [ 5 + 0.1% of Spell Power ] sec.
  • HolyRapid Mending Rapid Mending - Prayer of Mending is now instant cast, and its jump range is increased by 10 yards.
  • ShadowVoid Origins Void Origins - Void Eruption is now instant cast.

Rogue Rogue

  • All SpecsSmoke Bomb Smoke Bomb - Creates a cloud of thick smoke in a 8 yard radius around the Rogue for 5 sec. Enemies are unable to target into or out of the smoke cloud.

Shaman Shaman

  • ElementalLightning Lasso Lightning Lasso - Grips the target in lightning, stunning the target and dealing O2% of the target's maximum health in Nature damage over 5 sec. Can move while channeling.
  • EnhancementRide the Lightning Ride the Lightning - If there are more than 2 enemies within 8 yards when you cast Stormstrike, you also cast a Chain Lightning on the target, dealing [ 50% of Spell Power ] Nature damage. Otherwise, you conjure bolts of lightning to up to 2 furthest enemies within 40 yards dealing [ 50% of Spell Power ] Nature damage.
  • RestorationAncestral Gift Ancestral Gift - You become immune to Silence and Interrupt effects for 5 sec after using Spiritwalker's Grace.

Warlock Warlock

  • AfflictionEndless Affliction Endless Affliction - Your Unstable Affliction deals the same damage as normal, but its duration is increased by 6 sec.
  • DemonologyNether Ward Nether Ward - Surrounds the caster with a shield that lasts 3 sec, reflecting all harmful spells cast on you.
  • DestructionDemon Armor Demon Armor - Protects the caster, increasing maximum health by 10% and increases armor by 150%.

Warrior Warrior

  • ArmsSharpen Blade Sharpen Blade - When activated, your next Mortal Strike will deal 15% increased damage and reduce healing taken by 50% for 6 sec.
  • FuryBattle Trance Battle Trance - You go into a trance causing you to regenerate 3% of your health and generate 5 Rage every 3 sec for 18 sec after using Raging Blow twice in a row on a target. Using Raging Blow on a new target will cancel this effect.
  • ProtectionThunderstruck Thunderstruck - Thunder Clap roots all targets for 1 sec.

Tuning

Note that this is the initial push of abilities for the Conflict and Strife Essence. Expect more tuning to follow in future 8.2 builds.

Blizzard LogoBlizzard (Source)

It’s important to know – this is a preliminary look at this Essence. We’ll have changes to it in future PTR builds.

At this time, not all choices have been replaced or modified as needed to be acceptable in PvE.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am really psyched for the way of the crane!
Hate that avenging wrath was pally only!

BUT!
It also in a way pushes monks in a fistweaving direction, what if someone does not want to? ONE pvp talent to rule them all?
What's worse:
I mean some are partly irrelevant while other force you to lean in direction to make use of it.
Chill streak looks pretty OP combined to retri's movement speed bonus ='D or hunter/rogue stuff, seems pretty lazy to retract from spec identify for one dps spec and not the other.
One spec gets 15% dmg bonus other spec gets 30% movement speed on a single ability? Really?

Edited by Koxsos

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That list is very very wonky. Some of the talents chosen are insanely powerful, some of them are okay, and some are really really week. I mean look at the warlock ones and then look at the mage ones, very uneven. Then again maybe that will be fine given you'll have a lot of choice for essences.

I'm not looking forward to grinding the PvP for the PvE power though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Stan said:

ProtectionSteed of GlorySteed of Glory - Your Divine Steed lasts for an additional 2 sec. While active you become immune to movement impairing effects, and you knock back enemies that you move through.

This will make me change from Ret to Prot main.  

This alone.  Now Gimme back muh Cavalier talent!

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
24 minutes ago, Rooach said:

Ride the lightning will be fun in M+. *filtered* my enh is already broken and has 30-35K overall dmg in Dungeons

Saw hunters get Survival tactics and thought to myself great wtf did they give shaman then. Immediately became erect lol

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Borgoff33 said:

Survival Tactics ? are you shiiting me blizz could you have picked a more trash talent.. (awnser is no they picked the most trash one)

Saw that too and wondered why they are giving a class that can only dps an option that does no damage?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There is no way this list will go live this way, or this is NOT intended for actual PVE use. Rogue can probably break half the bosses ingame with this or else it wont work, which would be BS. Anythign mentioning % damage obviously cant work, Boomkin and Feral druid are INSANE, 12% spellcrit on 8 (or more depending on if it refreshes or starts new stacks when one group is capped) and 5% phys crit for everyone, with a heal to boot, this isnt balanced or really balancable IMO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Borgoff33 said:

Survival Tactics ? are you shiiting me blizz could you have picked a more trash talent.. (awnser is no they picked the most trash one)

Wait...

Iceblock on a 30 second CD is.. trash?

 

If this goes live, this will be a mandatory essence for Hunters - So many mechanics that you can just go "LOL NOPE"

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Labi132 said:

There is no way this list will go live this way, or this is NOT intended for actual PVE use. Rogue can probably break half the bosses ingame with this or else it wont work, which would be BS. Anythign mentioning % damage obviously cant work, Boomkin and Feral druid are INSANE, 12% spellcrit on 8 (or more depending on if it refreshes or starts new stacks when one group is capped) and 5% phys crit for everyone, with a heal to boot, this isnt balanced or really balancable IMO.

My raid group was looking at this in discord earlier and my RL said that if it went live like this Feral/Balance would become mandatory in every mythic raid, so I highly doubt they'll actually make it to live in this state, as the article itself said this is datamined untuned stuff.

That being said I've long looked at some of the PvP talents with envious eyes. The Frost Mage orb talent alone is an amazing QoL improvement as there is nothing worse than your orb getting stuck on a pebble twenty yards away from the boss.

I really like this idea, but we'll have to see how the tuning goes to see if it they'll be worth using.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, Stan said:

 

Demon HunterDemon Hunter

  • HavocDemonic OriginsDemonic Origins - The cooldown of Metamorphosis is reduced by 2 min, but now lasts 15 sec.
  • VengeanceCleansed by FlameCleansed by Flame - Immolation Aura dispels all magical effects on you when cast.

 

Immolation Aura Icon Immolation Aura deals very high Fire damage to all enemies in an 8-yard radius instantly, and then also lower damage every second for 6 seconds. It has a 15-second cooldown (reduced by Haste) and it generates 20 Pain over the course of its 6 seconds. It is excellent for building threat in AoE situations  (Vengence)

 

Ok..........really not an ideal essence to be tied to this skill if most DH tanks use the skill to build threat and help pump dmg with relation to using Spirit Bomb :/

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, tkioz said:

My raid group was looking at this in discord earlier and my RL said that if it went live like this Feral/Balance would become mandatory in every mythic raid, so I highly doubt they'll actually make it to live in this state, as the article itself said this is datamined untuned stuff.

That being said I've long looked at some of the PvP talents with envious eyes. The Frost Mage orb talent alone is an amazing QoL improvement as there is nothing worse than your orb getting stuck on a pebble twenty yards away from the boss.

I really like this idea, but we'll have to see how the tuning goes to see if it they'll be worth using.

Honestly some of these are so broken for some specs and garbage for others. As a fury main it sucks balls to see Arms get it's bis dmg talent as theirs and we get a tiny bit of rage and a small heal on fury which is very conditional. Pretty much useless outside of ST fights or bosses. As you said with the Frost mage Orb, I believe this system would be a lot better if everyone just got Qol talents or non dmg talents rather than making some class talents insane and others useless. Makes you feel *filtered* for playing what you enjoy if you didn't get lucky with which side of the rng blizzards random talent lands you on.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 hours ago, tkioz said:

My raid group was looking at this in discord earlier and my RL said that if it went live like this Feral/Balance would become mandatory in every mythic raid, so I highly doubt they'll actually make it to live in this state, as the article itself said this is datamined untuned stuff.

That being said I've long looked at some of the PvP talents with envious eyes. The Frost Mage orb talent alone is an amazing QoL improvement as there is nothing worse than your orb getting stuck on a pebble twenty yards away from the boss.

I really like this idea, but we'll have to see how the tuning goes to see if it they'll be worth using.

Druids were always needed for the mark of the wild buf right. Or they were always mandatory. So this is great right?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Glaiver said:

Druids were always needed for the mark of the wild buf right. Or they were always mandatory. So this is great right?

Err not to be rude but when was the last time you raided? Mark of the Wild briefly returned in the BFA Beta but it never made it back to live. The only buffs required for a raid team are Priest for Fortitude, Warrior for Battle Shout, Mage for Arcane Intellect, Monk for 5% physical damage debuff on mobs, and Demon Hunter for 5% magical damage debuff on mobs.

Oh you can make do with scrolls for the three buffs themselves, 7% vs. 10%, but they are expensive and a night of progress raiding can easily cost 10k for a single type of scrolls, but there is no replacement for the two damage debuffs. It's the reason that Demon Hunters were the single melee in the CoS race.

Honestly looking at the buff system as it stands now I'm more convinced than ever that Blizzard deliberately poison pilled the reintroduction. In case people aren't aware poison pilling is common in the business world, it's where you make yourself unattractive to take over by deliberately harming an asset.

This is what Blizzard did with the buff system, which players had been asking for back for years, they deliberately went out of their way to make it cumbersome and an mandatory in the hope that we'll ask them to remove it.

It's not like they weren't aware of the problems they were bringing since those were problems they already solved before removing the system. For example the Priest Fortitude buff provides health, but so did the Warlock Imp Pet, the two didn't stack, so you could have one, or both, in the raid as it fit your composition. The same thing for Blood Lust, it was Shaman only during TBC, which was a problem, so in Wrath they gave it to Hunters and Mages, solving the issue as surely a raid group will have one of the three in there somewhere.

The simplest thing to do would have been to spread the buffs and debuffs to at least two classes for each one and not have them stack, maximising the chances that a organically formed raid group will have them.

It reeks of deliberate sabotage to me, of course it could just be incompetence. Can't really tell with Blizzard these days.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Stan
      This week's bonus event is Burning Crusade Timewalking! Complete 5 Timewalking dungeons for the weekly quest to receive a piece of gear from Normal difficulty Ny'alotha, the Waking City.
      Timewalking dungeons drop item level 425 loot. You can get item level 445 loot from Black Temple Timewalking. You can obtain Arsenal: The Warglaives of Azzinoth on your Demon Hunter if you earned the Warglaives of Azzinoth prior. Reins of the Infinite Timereaver has a small chance to drop from all Timewalking bosses as Personal Loot. Blizzard (Source)
      ILLIDAN AWAITS
      Head to Outland to face Illidan and his cohorts once more in The Black Temple!
      The Black Temple raid is available throughout the Burning Crusade Timewalking event. The difficulty is set to Normal and, like any Normal level raid, will not be available through Raid Finder. To take on this challenge, you’ll need to get your guild or a group of friends together, or head to Group Finder > Premade Groups. The raid scales for your group size (between 10 — 30 players) and your level and gear will be scaled back to match the raid’s challenges.
      Want to relive the time you first defeated Teron Gorefiend? Face (face, face) the Reliquary of Souls once more? Witness the showdown between Maiev and Illidan before the final fight? Now’s your chance. Inside you can earn transmog sets, the pets you need for Raiding With Leashes III, a Music Roll: The Burning Legion, and gear drops. And for Demon Hunters, there’s the enticing possibility of obtaining the legendary Warglaives of Azzinoth. Are you, this time, prepared?
      DUNGEONS IN THE BURNING CRUSADE TIMEWALKING
      All week, open Group Finder (default hotkey: i) and then select Dungeon Finder and Timewalking in the Type dropdown. When you hit ‘Find Group’, you’ll be matched up with other players and sent to one of the following Heroic dungeons:
      The Arcatraz The Black Morass Magister’s Terrace Mana-Tombs Shattered Halls The Slave Pens Your character and items will be scaled down to a power level fitting for the challenge at hand, but bosses will yield loot appropriate for your natural level. Timewalking dungeons also have a chance to drop items that usually drop when you run them on Heroic, and you’ll earn reputation with a faction that is interested in the dungeon. For example, when you Timewalk through The Slave Pens, you’ll earn reputation with the Cenarion Expedition, which could open access to purchasing the Cenarion War Hippogryph mount.
      Look for the following all week long:
      Chronicler Shoopa in Zuldazar or Chronicler Toopa in Boralus has a quest for you has a quest for you. Or, if you forget to pick it up there, you can start it from within the Adventure Journal. Quest requirement: Complete 5 Timewalking dungeons. Rewards: Artifact Power and one loot box containing a piece of gear from Normal difficulty Ny'alotha, the Waking City. EVERY WEEK
      The Bonus Events system consists of a rotating schedule of different activities, currently scheduled to run each week beginning on Tuesdays. Each Bonus Event grants a passive bonus to a particular game activity and offers a once-per-event quest with a noteworthy reward for accomplishing a related goal. The in-game calendar can serve as your one-stop reference for the event schedule. The Adventure Guide also offers a direct link to active Bonus Events, allowing you to easily accept any associated quests.
    • By Starym
      We have another short batch, featuring the N'Zoth and Jaina mounts finally dropping in pairs with resets after some issues last week, as well as Rajani and Uldum Accord paragon caches being turn-inable once more, and a quest fix and Classic getting a tweak that improves performance of a mod.
      February 18 (source)
      Items and Rewards
      Fixed an issue that prevented Lady Jaina Proudmoore and N’Zoth the Corruptor from dropping mounts when defeated on Mythic difficulty. Developers’ note: Last week we made a change to increase the mount rewards from defeating these bosses from 1 to 2. However, the hotfix caused an issue that prevented any mounts from dropping, so we’ve reverted it back to the previous iteration as a temporary fix (1 mount rewarded). These bosses will drop 2 mounts with restarts in each region. Quests
      Eligible players can again turn in “Supplies from the Rajani ” or “Supplies from the Uldum Accord ” for Paragon Cache rewards. WoW Classic
      Fixed a performance issue resulting from communications initiated by the Real Mob Health add-on. Please uninstall the current version of this add-on.
      Previous Hotfixes
      February 14th February 13th February 12th
    • By Stan
      To prevent players from quickly killing world bosses, Blizzard recently added spawn protection for Nalak and Rukhmar, meaning the bosses will be immune to damage for a few seconds after they are attacked so that more players can tag them.
      Similar to Sha of Anger (Reins of the Heavenly Onyx Cloud Serpent) and Galleon (Son of Galleon's Saddle), spawn protection has been enabled for Nalak and Rukhmar.
      Nalak can be found in Isle of Thunder (Pandaria) and has a chance to drop Reins of the Thundering Cobalt Cloud Serpent.
      "This is a descendant of the irascible Nalak. Lightning erupts from its scales and arcs over the saddle. Dare you sit?"

      Rukhmar can be found in Spires of Arak (Draenor) and has a small chance to drop Solar Spirehawk.
      "Looking into the eyes of this mystical beast is like peering into the heart of the sun. Goggles are recommended when you're riding."

      Source: Reddit
    • By Stan
      Lady Jaina Proudmoore was not dropping any Glacial Tidestorms on Mythic difficulty after they buffed the drop rate to two mounts per run. As a result, she has been reverted to only drop 1 mount until the underlying issue gets fixed.
      Blizzard is currently investigating a bug that affects Mythic Jaina in the Battle of Dazar'alor raid and she now only drops one Glacial Tidestorm until further notice.
      Customer Support won't be granting additional mounts while the drop rate is reverted, according to the official support page.
      Blizzard (Source)
      We should have received two mounts after today's hotfix, however after we kill Jaina we receive no mount at all.
      We identified an issue were Lady Jaina Proudmoore was not dropping any Glacial Tidestorm mounts on Mythic difficulty. She has been reverted to now drop only 1 mount again while the underlying issue is investigated.

      Customer Support will not be granting additional mounts while the drop rate is reverted.
      In the latest round of hotfixes, Blizzard buffed the drop rate of Glacial Tidestorm and Ny'alotha Allseer to two per run, because it took up to 20 weeks for a full Mythic group to get the mounts for each member. You can find more details here.
      Source: Reddit
    • By Stan
      Head to Dalaran and talk to the Archaeology Trainer to receive the The Right Path quest where you are sent to Thunder Totem in Highmountain to collect Bone Fragment of Eche'ro for the Spirit of Eche'ro mount. Note that the quest is available only once every six months, so don't forget to complete it before it's gone!
      Download MapCoords or some other addons that displays coordinates on the world map. Teleport to Azsuna from the Stormwind/Orgrimmar Portal Room or use your Dalaran Hearthstone to reach Dalaran. Go to 41,26 find Dariness the Learned and learn Archaeology if you already haven't. Accept The Right Path quest from the Archaeology Trainer and fly to Thunder Totem in Highmountain. Talk to Lessah Moonwater to accept Laying to Rest. For the quest, you must collect 600 Bone Fragment of Eche'ro from four digsites in Highmountain. Digsite: Darkfeather Valley (50, 44) Digsite: Dragon's Falls (58, 72) Digsite: Path of Huin (44, 72) Digsite: Whitewater Wash (39, 65) Spirit of Eche'ro
      "The spirit of Huln Highmountain's pet moose."

      Hurry up! You only have until February 26 to get the mount!
      (Source)
×
×
  • Create New...