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The Lost Codex sat down with Frank Kowalkowski and Steve Danuser to discuss Shadowlands lore.

Check out our BlizzCon 2019 Content Hub for more details!

Interview Highlights

  • We'll see Uther and other characters that died on Azeroth in the Shadowlands.
  • The Islands AI technology is available and ready if they need to use it in the future.
  • Procedural spawning that we saw on Island Expeditions will be used in Torghast.
  • We know that Odyn gave his eye to an unknown entity in the Shadowlands that works for the Jailer and there was a specific reason why they wanted the Keeper's eye.
  • We will learn that the Jailer had a group of like-minded allies that have worked with him throughout our timeline, some of them doing things very far back in history that are only now coming to fruition and were a part of a larger plan.
  • In the new expansion, we'll learn more about the pact between Helya and Sylvanas, it has something to do with the lantern, but it's not something players would have anticipated.
  • They will revisit Allied Races and decide whether or not they should be unlocked for new players.
  • Shadowlands is the afterlife for Azeroth and other worlds. 
  • The Kyrian are souls that have come from Azeroth and other worlds that are now proved worthy of the system. They work their way up from aspirant to becoming ascended and earning their wings. This is a very long process, but they see it through the lens of the covenant as a process of purifying themselves and going through these monastic rituals.
    • Each afterlife that we're visiting in the Shadowlands has a similar process that the souls go through.
  • We'll explore Vol'jin's story in the Shadowlands.
  • Torghast is an example of how all the disciplines on the WoW team come together to tell a story.
  • You will never see the same thing twice in Torghast.
  • The amount of times you will be able to enter the Tower per week remains to be seen.
  • In Bastion, the owl guys are native beings of the Shadowlands, they're creatures of death.
  • Shadowlands is a mix of native creatures and the souls that come in to undertake some role within the Shadowlands. 
  • They like the idea of certain races not having access to every class, new class combinations are just a matter of what feels right at the time.
  • We'll see characters reactions in the wake of N'Zoth's defeat in Patch 8.3.
  • Allied Races are still on the table for the new expansion, they just want to add them when they make sense. BfA was about Allied Races, because both factions needed reinforcements.

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Still wondering if we're ever going to do anything about that giant sword in silithus, and all the azerite bleed that's as far as I know still coming out as a result of it?     You know, the main reason the whole BFA thing started?     Are we just going to say "Ok, well we need to fix azeroth's heart by collecting azerite with the heart of azeroth and...um...oh there's an old god, let's use the heart of azeroth with other Titan tech to blast it to smithereens!   Yay it worked, the world is saved!   (wanders off)."

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That's my point though, the whole goal of the expansion (at the start) was to heal Azeroth Titan/Planet from the Giant sword stuck in her, making her bleed Azerite.    That Azerite started bleeding up everywhere, and instead of using it to heal her some unscrupulous types (mostly goblin) started using it for weapons.

Somehow we deviated from that mission into killing a quasi old God in Ghuun (unrelated to Azerite problem but w/e), warring with each other (also unrelated except azerite started it), fatty mcpirate's bad ideas along with the witches, blood trolls, sethrak etc (also all unrelated).    Finally we went to Asharra's place where she used the Azerite we collected to free Nzoth, and then it looks like we're going to go kill Nzoth (also also unrelated to the actual problem of the giant sword and the azerite bleeding out).

What I'm saying is, at the end of the day we still have this giant sword impaling Azeroth from space, causing her to bleed this azerite blood out, which is apparently a precious enough substance to go to war over...and nothing at all was resolved?

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5 minutes ago, Migol said:

What I'm saying is, at the end of the day we still have this giant sword impaling Azeroth from space, causing her to bleed this azerite blood out, which is apparently a precious enough substance to go to war over...and nothing at all was resolved?

8.3 isnt even out yet.  We have no idea how it will truly end.

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I just hope they will not use the legion end , use all the power in the artifact to heal the whole thing and make an excuse for the neck not being in the next xpac. i will be disapointed yet again if it happen.

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18 minutes ago, PatrickHenry said:

8.3 isnt even out yet.  We have no idea how it will truly end.

Sure, it's possible something will address this, but datamining has only shown N'zoth as the way we use (and break before next expansion) the neck?    The giant sword hasn't been talked about since BFA's launch, and Azerite has only been a tangential topic for all of the stories, IE using the neck to free/kill nzoth or absorb azerite/get essences.     I'd be a bit disappointed if the plot is hand-waved "By killing the last of the Old Gods, something something the (unrelated) sword wound will begin to heal because reasons!".

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These are some very juicy reveals!
Thanks a lot to The Lost Codex for this interview and of course Stan for the nice summary and report.

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On 11/7/2019 at 12:18 PM, Migol said:

Sure, it's possible something will address this, but datamining has only shown N'zoth as the way we use (and break before next expansion) the neck?    The giant sword hasn't been talked about since BFA's launch, and Azerite has only been a tangential topic for all of the stories, IE using the neck to free/kill nzoth or absorb azerite/get essences.     I'd be a bit disappointed if the plot is hand-waved "By killing the last of the Old Gods, something something the (unrelated) sword wound will begin to heal because reasons!".

"because reasons" is pretty vague.  Especially considering most of the people on Azeroth working on it (cenarion circle, shamans) have no idea how to actually fix it or what its all doing to the planet.

Removing something that size from earth wouldnt be a 2 year deal.  Other things would go by while people are working on that problem.

It seems pretty logical to me that its not just the single thing that people stare at all day while the entire death realm opens up above ICC, when they have no idea how to truly fix it yet.  

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