positiv2 950 Report post Posted October 13, 2020 This thread is for comments about our Fury Warrior Shadowlands Guide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest harrod Report post Posted October 15, 2020 I like how there isn't single mention of SMF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Gobloons Report post Posted October 18, 2020 The PvE spell summary guide says that Fury Warriors have Die by the Sword and there is no mention of Rallying Cry. This is wrong. They still have Rallying Cry and do not have Die by the Sword. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 10 Report post Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/15/2020 at 4:12 AM, Guest harrod said: I like how there isn't single mention of SMF It's listed in the class changes section, but strictly speaking there's not much to say about it. You can wear one-handed weapons now, but there's absolutely no gameplay difference between using 1h or 2h weapons the way there is with Death Knights (due to Runeforges). There could probably be a small section somewhere elaborating on that in the gearing section, but it's really not a "decision" that players need to make - everything equal, the two options are within 1% of one another, meaning it really just comes down to taking whatever has the highest item level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 10 Report post Posted October 19, 2020 On 10/17/2020 at 8:35 PM, Guest Gobloons said: The PvE spell summary guide says that Fury Warriors have Die by the Sword and there is no mention of Rallying Cry. This is wrong. They still have Rallying Cry and do not have Die by the Sword. It actually should have mentioned Enraged Regeneration instead of DbtS. Should be fixed shortly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ocho Report post Posted October 20, 2020 In 3.1. AoE Priority List, I notice that you didn't put whirlwind again after step 7 (execute) to refresh the aoe debuff. Is that by design? It's better to use bloodthirst/crushing blow/onslaught again before you refresh whirlwind? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jortano Report post Posted October 21, 2020 I didn't see any mention of the PvP Talent Bloodrage, would this talent be viable? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lazyeye_o Report post Posted November 9, 2020 in game when Bloodthirst changes to Bloodbath it has no mention of doing extra bleeding effect like the one on this guide does, unless im not understanding something lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lazyeye_o Report post Posted November 9, 2020 oh it looks like a whole different kind of Bloodbath lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fury Report post Posted November 29, 2020 Awesome guide thanks,It's probably worth adding the note on 1H vs 2h to the gearing section as this was the information I came here to find. On 10/20/2020 at 12:43 AM, Archimtiros said: It's listed in the class changes section, but strictly speaking there's not much to say about it. You can wear one-handed weapons now, but there's absolutely no gameplay difference between using 1h or 2h weapons the way there is with Death Knights (due to Runeforges). There could probably be a small section somewhere elaborating on that in the gearing section, but it's really not a "decision" that players need to make - everything equal, the two options are within 1% of one another, meaning it really just comes down to taking whatever has the highest item level. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heroic Ryan Report post Posted December 1, 2020 Yeah uh, it's about the Conduit part of the guide. Ashen Juggernaut. You say Venthyr only. I'm not sure if you're specifying that the conduit is only good if you're venthyr, or if it's a conduit exclusive to venthyr. If it's the ladder, it's incorrect, as I have the conduit as a necrolord. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 10 Report post Posted December 2, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 3:14 AM, Guest Jortano said: I didn't see any mention of the PvP Talent Bloodrage, would this talent be viable? It's alright, but not particularly good. The tooltip is missing a decimal, so although it says 400 rage, it actually only generates 40. On 11/9/2020 at 6:14 AM, Guest Lazyeye_o said: in game when Bloodthirst changes to Bloodbath it has no mention of doing extra bleeding effect like the one on this guide does, unless im not understanding something lol Blizzard re-used the same name. The new Bloodbath-replacement-for-Blooodthirst has no relation to the old bleed effect. It just deals a bit more damage and has a lower cooldown. On 11/30/2020 at 11:35 PM, Guest Heroic Ryan said: Yeah uh, it's about the Conduit part of the guide. Ashen Juggernaut. You say Venthyr only. I'm not sure if you're specifying that the conduit is only good if you're venthyr, or if it's a conduit exclusive to venthyr. If it's the ladder, it's incorrect, as I have the conduit as a necrolord. It is specifying that it is only good as Venthyr, because yes, clearly the conduit is obtainable by everyone. Harrowing Punishment is the Venthyr specific conduit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Edgè Report post Posted December 5, 2020 Hey there, just wanted to tell you guys that you put in Reckless Abandon as the go to talent for dungeons and mythic+ in the summary, but tell us that Anger Management is the way to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 10 Report post Posted December 7, 2020 On 12/4/2020 at 7:00 PM, Guest Edgè said: Hey there, just wanted to tell you guys that you put in Reckless Abandon as the go to talent for dungeons and mythic+ in the summary, but tell us that Anger Management is the way to go. Thanks; they flipped those talents positions in the calculator between BfA and Legion. The correct recommendation should be Anger Management, because it allows Recklessness to better align with Bladestorm, and also proc Signet more often when using that legendary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fahn 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2020 Any thoughts on adding a pre-raid BIS list? Like it was before? Would be interesting ,at least for me. Maybe its there and Im just to blind to find it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ??? Report post Posted December 11, 2020 Why was the dungeon BIS removed? Doesn't make much sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 10 Report post Posted December 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Guest ??? said: Why was the dungeon BIS removed? Doesn't make much sense. Strictly speaking, it's not really BiS anymore - even provided you want some pieces out of M+, once you start mixing and matching with raid gear, it's not really a complete BiS set anymore. That said, we can probably include some add in some alternate dungeon pieces to look for - I just can't promise it will necessarily be "BiS" when used alongside whatever other gear you happen to be using. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Larom Report post Posted December 12, 2020 17 hours ago, Archimtiros said: Strictly speaking, it's not really BiS anymore - even provided you want some pieces out of M+, once you start mixing and matching with raid gear, it's not really a complete BiS set anymore. That said, we can probably include some add in some alternate dungeon pieces to look for - I just can't promise it will necessarily be "BiS" when used alongside whatever other gear you happen to be using. It's BIS for people who push mythic+ exclusively. Not everybody raids. Plus with the weekly vault, it still is very much BIS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lynx Report post Posted December 21, 2020 On 12/11/2020 at 4:08 AM, Archimtiros said: Strictly speaking, it's not really BiS anymore - even provided you want some pieces out of M+, once you start mixing and matching with raid gear, it's not really a complete BiS set anymore. That said, we can probably include some add in some alternate dungeon pieces to look for - I just can't promise it will necessarily be "BiS" when used alongside whatever other gear you happen to be using. As this is the first patch of the xpac and there are no "Gear catch up" mechanics (maybe PvP if you're looking strictly for iLvl), dungeon gear or a pre-raid BIS is still more than relevant information. Pre-raid BIS is still a form of BIS and players need to know what they're looking for as they're not going to hit 60 and immediately be in Castle Nathria. An argument could be made about LFR but at LFR levels people will still benefit almost as much from M0/Low M+ dungeon gear. On 12/11/2020 at 9:49 PM, Guest Larom said: It's BIS for people who push mythic+ exclusively. Not everybody raids. Plus with the weekly vault, it still is very much BIS. Also this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 29, 2020 in the guild under the different talents selection these are not making sense to me - Death Sentence offers increased mobility, which can be useful, but tends to be too situational to be practical in a PvE setting. Battle Trance, Master and Commander, Spell Reflection, and Disarm can be strong defensive options, but are not typically necessary or useful in PvE content. What I am not understanding is these are PVP talents, not PVE. How can they be used in PVE content? Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 10 Report post Posted December 30, 2020 20 hours ago, roo said: in the guild under the different talents selection these are not making sense to me - Death Sentence offers increased mobility, which can be useful, but tends to be too situational to be practical in a PvE setting. Battle Trance, Master and Commander, Spell Reflection, and Disarm can be strong defensive options, but are not typically necessary or useful in PvE content. What I am not understanding is these are PVP talents, not PVE. How can they be used in PVE content? Thank you. By activating War Mode, you gain access to PvP talents in all non-instanced content. Many players use this as a means of empowering their character while still solely focusing on PvE content (leveling, world quests, etc), so the guide makes a point of highlighting those talents which have some usefulness in that setting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 30, 2020 Thanks for increasing my knowledge! I would never use 'war mode', but good to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZippityBeBop Report post Posted January 1, 2021 In the best in slot section, in the 7th section, it says Nyalotha instead of Castle Nathria. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest BIS LISTS Report post Posted January 12, 2021 Where is the Mythic+ BiS List? Why isnt there one like the prot one? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeelsandNeeds 3 Report post Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Can anyone please confirm whether Deathmaker legendary can proc Siegebreaker without the talent actually being picked up? Edited January 22, 2021 by FeelsandNeeds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites