Envenom Help

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So with combat being the dominant spec most of this tier, I have been sort of neglecting assassination(still hop into sub every now and then) and because of that I have come across a problem with trying to pick it back up: When should I pool energy, how many CP and Anticipation charges should I be at before casting an envenom, and the biggest thing is when should I stop pooling energy/CP and start spamming mutilate and envenom whenever possible?

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Your question revolves around the idea of Envenom uptime. When to pool energy and cp's, when to spam, all surrounds the goal of maximizing your Envenom uptime.


You should first get some way to track your Envenom buff. Any power aura addon will help. Once you have a timer in the middle of your screen telling you how many seconds you have left on the buff, all your decisions should be based around that. If you still have time on your Envenom buff and you have 5 to 8 cp's, take another Mutilate while waiting out the timer. If you still have time and you are at 9 or 10 cp's, pool a bit of energy waiting out the timer. If you're going to cap out on energy waiting, you'll have to clip your buff. If you get into this situation it's likely because you've been pooling too much energy or you got an unusual string of cp generation.


The exception to this rule is avoiding cp and energy capping during haste/cp buffs. When you're under huge haste buffs like Adrenaline Rush or Heroism, or you have Shadow Blades active, you are going to build energy and cp's far too quickly to wait out your Envenom buff. Just Mutilate and Envenom at 5+ cp's disregarding your buff time remaining in these situations.

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First, it is a very minor boost. And a significant loss if you can't keep from capping energy/cp while attempting it. Envenom pooling is something that bored asn masters do. It's like a little mini-game.


Just don't cap energy or cp, ever.


After that, the answer is simple. Spam when you have too much energy and cp and wait before using envenom if you can. All it takes is practice.


I suggest having a better method than the buff bar to track envenom duration. I personally use icehud, but there are many methods that can work.


If you don't have a really strong grasp of the fundamentals of asn, I wouldn't bother with it. It honestly comes quite naturally to someone who already has a firm grasp of the basics of the spec.

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I have a way to track envenom as part of my UI in assassination. I am not new to the spec, I just haven't played in a very long time. I mainly have no clue what to do when a trinket procs, because a pure agi proc is not affecting my energy. So do I continue maximizing envenom buff uptime or do I start spamming away with mutilate and envenom? I guess, when do I start saving resources for envenom uptime and just start furiously pressing buttons.

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