Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide for Mists of Pandaria Classic

Last updated on Jul 16, 2025 at 00:00 by Sellin

Welcome to our PvP SubtletySubtlety Rogue guide for Mists of Pandaria. Here you will learn all you need to know to properly play Subtlety Rogue in PvP scenarios.

1.

Subtlety Rogue PvP Overview

SubtletySubtlety Rogue retains their spot as the masters of crowd control and disruption. Thanks to abilities like Cheap Shot Icon Cheap Shot and Blind Icon Blind you will have no problem controlling the pace at which you fight as a Rogue especially in smaller format PvP. Subtlety is also capable of massive burst damage thanks to Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and with the addition of Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades that damage potential is even greater.

Strengths icon Strengths
  • +Unmatched burst damage when pairing Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades.
  • +Incredible mobility thanks to Burst of Speed Icon Burst of Speed.
  • +Best crowd control in the game thanks to abilities like Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot.
  • +Reworks to Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness greatly increase damage done outside of cooldowns.
Weaknesses icon Weaknesses
  • -Very reliant on defensive cooldowns like Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows.
  • -Requires considerable set up to deal maximum damage which can be easily disrupted.
  • -Struggles when being targeted.
2.

Talent Build and Glyphs

Nightstalker
Subterfuge
Shadow Focus
Deadly Throw
Nerve Strike
Combat Readiness
Cheat Death
Leeching Poison
Elusiveness
Cloak and Dagger
Shadowstep
Burst of Speed
Prey on the Weak
Paralytic Poison
Dirty Tricks
Shuriken Toss
Marked for Death
Anticipation
Major Glyphs
Glyph of Blind
Glyph of Hemorrhaging Veins
Glyph of Cheap Shot
Minor Glyphs
Glyph of Improved Distraction
Glyph of Poisons
No Glyph
2.1.

Major Glyphs

  • Glyph of Hemorrhaging Veins Icon Glyph of Hemorrhaging Veins — Causes our Hemorrhage Icon Hemorrhage ability to benefit from Sanguinary Vein Icon Sanguinary Vein greatly increasing our damage done.
  • Glyph of Blind Icon Glyph of Blind — Causes our Blind Icon Blind ability to instantly remove all damage-over-time effects from the target allowing us to easily crowd control a target with Blind that would have otherwise instantly broken it due to the damage-over-time effects.
  • Glyph of Cheap Shot Icon Glyph of Cheap Shot — Increases the duration of your Cheap Shot Icon Cheap Shot ability by 0.5 seconds. We will be using Cheap Shot quite a few times both in our opener and during Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance so the added duration will quickly add up.
3.

Rotation and Playstyle

Make sure to check out our Spells Summary Page. Having a clear understanding of your abilities as a Rogue is crucial to both be able to deal maximum damage and apply the maximum amount of pressure by utilizing crowd controlling abilities like Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot and Gouge Icon Gouge. Even a well timed Smoke Bomb Icon Smoke Bomb can be the difference between you team surviving or not.

  1. Backstab Icon Backstab — Acts as our primary source of dealing damage and generating Combo Points when you are able to get behind your target.
  2. Hemorrhage Icon Hemorrhage — Acts as our primary source of dealing damage and generating Combo Points when you are not able to get behind the target. If you follow our recommend build above you will also be using Glyph of Hemorrhaging Veins Icon Glyph of Hemorrhaging Veins which greatly increases the value of keeping Hemorrhage active on your target.
  3. Gouge Icon Gouge —Instantly incapacitates your target but can only be used on a target you are currently in-front of. Any damage will break this incapacitating effect.
  4. Kick Icon Kick — Is an instant, melee ranged interrupt. In Mists of Pandaria the Energy requirement has been removed making this ability much easier to use re-actively.
  5. Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot — Is an instant cast stun that's duration scales with the amount of Combo Points spent.
  6. Rupture Icon Rupture — applies a damage-over-time effect to the target scaling with the amount of Combo Points spent. This is a great way to deal damage to a target especially in a situation where you expect to be attacking the same target for its entire duration.
  7. Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate — Acts as our primary spender of Combo Points to deal damage. This is ideally used with five combo points but sometimes a lesser amount will get the job done and finish your target.
  8. Recuperate Icon Recuperate — Is a heal-over-time effect that allows you to convert Combo Points to healing. With changes made to Energetic Recovery Icon Energetic Recovery now being attached to Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice it is not as important to keep active but if you find yourself being targeted its a great way to keep yourself ahead of the game.
  9. Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice — Greatly increases your attack speed when active, the duration of this buff scales with the amount of Combo Points spent to apply it. With changes made to Energetic Recovery Icon Energetic Recovery it is crucial to maximize our Slice and Dice uptime to increase the rate at which we regenerate Energy.
  10. Redirect Icon Redirect — Instantly transfers all of your Combo Points onto your current target, allowing for much easier target swapping.
4.

Stealth Abilities

SubtletySubtlety Rogue has a number of tools it can use from Stealth Icon Stealth allowing it an unfair advantage on its victims. Understanding what each ability does and how to properly use it will help you greatly in both starting a PvP encounter and while Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is active.

  • Garrote Icon Garrote — Deals a considerable amount of Physical damage over its duration and also silences your target for 3 seconds. With the strength of Sanguinary Vein Icon Sanguinary Vein it will be important to keep this active when possible on any target you are looking to kill. This also activates Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness which will allow us to ignore 100% of the targets armor.
  • Ambush Icon Ambush — will act as your primary out of Stealth Icon Stealth ability as Subtlety if Garrote Icon Garrote is already active on the target. Ambush will also apply Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness which in Mists of Pandaria allows us to ignore 100% of our targets armor while it is active, greatly increasing our damage done by all of our Physical damaging abilities.
  • Sap Icon Sap — is a short incapacitate that can only be used on players that are not in combat. Any damage will immediately break this effect.
  • Cheap Shot Icon Cheap Shot — stuns the target for 4 seconds.
5.

Cooldowns

SubtletySubtlety Rogue is known for its countless cooldowns and seemingly has an answer for any situation. Understanding how each of these abilities functions is a key to being prepared for the constantly changing environment that is PvP.

  • Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows — instantly removes all harmful magic effects and grants immunity to all magic damage and effects for five seconds. While this ability will typically be used to survive you can also use it proactively to ignore an enemies otherwise effective crowd control like a mage trying to cast Polymorph Icon Polymorph.
  • Smoke Bomb Icon Smoke Bomb — summons a eight yard radius cloud of smoke that prevents enemies attacks from coming into or leaving the shrouded area. This is an incredible ability in PvP as it completely neutralizes threats from outside of the bomb and also stops targets inside of it from being healed. This can be used to either avoid incoming spells or to kill an enemy that would otherwise able to be healed through your damage.
  • Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades — causes your auto-attacks to deal additional Shadow damage and your Combo Point generating abilities like Backstab Icon Backstab to grant an additional Combo Point.
  • Marked for Death Icon Marked for Death — marks your target for death instantly granting 5 Combo Points. If the target dies the cooldown is instantly reset. This is a great way to not only apply your Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice and Rupture Icon Rupture buffs but can even allow for a quick Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate to finish off your target.
  • Tricks of the Trade Icon Tricks of the Trade — Increases your targets damage by 15% for its duration. This ability is a great way to boost the damage dealt by an ally especially when they have DPS cooldowns active.
  • Vanish Icon Vanish — instantly sends the Rogue back into stealth allowing for the usage of Stealth Icon Stealth-only abilities. This can be used to either avoid incoming damage and get yourself away from a dangerous situation or to head back into Stealth Icon Stealth to use one of your more potent abilities like Garrote Icon Garrote and to reapply Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness which will greatly increase our damage output.
  • Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance — allows you to cast Stealth Icon Stealth abilities while out of Stealth. This ability has great potential both offensively and defensively. When on the offensive this allows you to cast tons of Ambush Icon Ambush/Garrote Icon Garrotes allowing you to deal tons of damage and maximize our Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness uptime. If you need to peel in an emergency it can allow you to spam Cheap Shot Icon Cheap Shot on multiple targets greatly reducing your enemies ability to deal damage. Keep in mind Glyph of Cheap Shot Icon Glyph of Cheap Shot will slightly extend this duration, increasing our ability to mitigate incoming damage.
  • Preparation Icon Preparation — instantly resets your Vanish Icon Vanish, Sprint Icon Sprint, Evasion Icon Evasion and Dismantle Icon Dismantle cooldowns.
  • Evasion Icon Evasion — increases your dodge chance by 100% for 10 seconds.
  • Dismantle Icon Dismantle — disarms the enemy for 8 seconds.
6.

Poisons

RogueRogue has had poisons greatly simplified in Mists of Pandaria. You will have a choice of one lethal poison and one non-lethal. Wound Poison Icon Wound Poison will be our default choice for our lethal poison but what non-lethal poison you choose will largely depend on the situation. Most often it will be Crippling Poison Icon Crippling Poison to slow your target and maximize up time but an argument can be made for Mind-Numbing Poison Icon Mind-Numbing Poison if you need to slow the targets casting speed, especially when focusing a healer.

  • Deadly Poison Icon Deadly Poison — is a lethal poison that deals damage over time. This can complicate the use of abilities like Gouge Icon Gouge and the healing reduction found in Wound Poison Icon Wound Poison will often outweigh the damage.
  • Wound Poison Icon Wound Poison — reduces the healing the target is able to receive and deals a Nature damage. This is our default choice for a lethal poison in Mists of Pandaria purely because of the healing reduction applied to the target.
  • Crippling Poison Icon Crippling Poison — slows the target, this will act as our primary non-lethal poison as Subtlety in PvP.
  • Mind-Numbing Poison Icon Mind-Numbing Poison — increases the cast speed of the target lessening the amount of casts the target would otherwise be able to cast. This is a strong choice to consider for your non-lethal poison if you are struggling with the enemy casting too many abilities.
7.

Best Professions

While trying to get the most out of your SubtletySubtlety Rogue in Mists of Pandaria PvP, these are the professions we recommend:

  1. Blacksmithing Icon Blacksmithing — Gives you access to two additional gem sockets, one in your Gloves and one in your Writs. Even with the removal of Resilience these two bonus sockets are still incredibly valuable and should be filled with Agility gems to maximize our damage output.
  2. Engineering Icon Engineering — grants us Synapse Springs Icon Synapse Springs which allows us a ton of Agility on demand. Pairing this with Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades and Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance will lead to massive amounts of burst damage.
8.

Best in Slot

The list linked below includes the best possible gear setup for an Rogue in PvP.

9.

Arena Teams and Compositions

SubtletySubtlety Rogue is an incredibly versatile class that can pair with almost any other classes. In Mists of Pandaria you will have even more options for teammates as many crowd control restrictions have been changed making it even easier as a Subtlety Rogue to dictate the pace of your fights.