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Guest GoodStranger

blood for blood no longer slows, the talent description needs to be updated

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Guest xHellbladex

Really love Angelic Absorption for the full tank build. With the extra regeneration skills taken it really sustains him well.

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Guest NoirCity

Tyrael's ability page does not include his Sanctification heroic. Just letting you know. :)

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Guest CptShrike

It's really nice to see the Bruiser build here. Sure, damage isn't Tyrael's strong suit and you should only pick it when you have another tank to back you up, but the talent synergies and alternate play style are actually fun and a refreshing change of pace. It makes a huge difference compared to other guides and other talents which are "You must pick these 7 talents or you suck and you lose forever".

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10 hours ago, Raz415 said:

Quick question, can mosh pit be stopped by Judgement? It doesn't say anywhere that it makes Tyrael unstoppable.

Yes. Once he successfully casts it, he becomes unstoppable.

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Hey everyone,

I just wanted to let you know that Tyrael will be one of the next Heroes I am going to convert to the new Guide format. This will include updates on talents, builds, etc. 

Looking forward to sharing it with you! 

 

 

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Guest SomeShyGuy

Don't you think he needs his Talent Tree to be reworked as well? Pretty much every other Warrior has gotten... Tyrael lacks unique questing talents, option to reduce ability damage (even Valla and Butcher have for the love of God) etc

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19 hours ago, Guest SomeShyGuy said:

Don't you think he needs his Talent Tree to be reworked as well? Pretty much every other Warrior has gotten... Tyrael lacks unique questing talents, option to reduce ability damage (even Valla and Butcher have for the love of God) etc

I feel like they are pushing Tyrael to be that "engage" tank, where everything in his toolkit revolves around short burst dives rather than what Diablo does (dive and sit there, getting hit). They might rework it, but it feels like Tyrael is just there to push his team that extra bit more to get a pick, then helping them to retreat without dying. 

The health regen talent also seems to point towards this, since you can dive, pick, retreat and reset. 

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Guest AnonymousContributor

That last patch really ruined him imho- hideous and uncalled for nerf. Hope a rework is coming for him soon(not tm).

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Guest Eisal

I kind of picked him up again, but just read his changes and felt rather sad about it. His Holy Ground talent is good, but alone it's not going to make him great.

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On 3/13/2017 at 9:40 AM, Guest AnonymousContributor said:

That last patch really ruined him imho- hideous and uncalled for nerf. Hope a rework is coming for him soon(not tm).

they removed one (admittedly pretty strong) talent and otherwise buffed his kit almost across the board. If a level 13 talent was the only thing making him playable (imo - it wasn't) then maybe it's not that they ruined him and more that he wasn't good to begin with?

 

wether or not you like the new direction with warrior armors, the build in 15% off all ability damage is *massive* against all but the most focused auto-attack comps (even some AA heroes like valla end up doing a lot of ability damage...) The trivial amount of max health he lost is made up for in spades but the 15% improvement to his self-shield, regen master health bonus, and of course any healing that comes his way.

 

TLDR; they wanted to give Tyrael a niche, and by god they gave it to him. AA focused builds like protect-the-illidan are becoming less and less commonplace, so exercise even a small amount of judiciousness during the draft and it's very easy to match him up against a comp that will now have a much tougher time dealing with him.

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8 hours ago, Voltorocks said:

they removed one (admittedly pretty strong) talent and otherwise buffed his kit almost across the board. If a level 13 talent was the only thing making him playable (imo - it wasn't) then maybe it's not that they ruined him and more that he wasn't good to begin with?

 

wether or not you like the new direction with warrior armors, the build in 15% off all ability damage is *massive* against all but the most focused auto-attack comps (even some AA heroes like valla end up doing a lot of ability damage...) The trivial amount of max health he lost is made up for in spades but the 15% improvement to his self-shield, regen master health bonus, and of course any healing that comes his way.

 

TLDR; they wanted to give Tyrael a niche, and by god they gave it to him. AA focused builds like protect-the-illidan are becoming less and less commonplace, so exercise even a small amount of judiciousness during the draft and it's very easy to match him up against a comp that will now have a much tougher time dealing with him.

Amplified Healing and Hardened Shield also gone, so there's that...

The 'buff' to W shield is laughable at best. It is still measly and goes down fast when focused. Johanna's stronger AND gives cc immunity.

For a tank, he doesn't feel pretty tanky imho. People just seem to pick him for his Heroics and Holy Ground at level 16. If you try to go solo tank with him, it's basically suicide. Not to mention having one of the worst traits in the game (if not THE worst).

He's now only worth vs mage (ability) heavy comps (Li Ming, Jaina, Gul'dan, KT etc) which happens mostly in QMs. Tychus, who's meta, destroys him with ease. And yeah, Blizz said they wanted to give each one a unique identity, but you already have re-reworked Anub (2nd time) who brings much more utility to the team from the start, much sturdier and harder to kill and does an equal or better job vs ability heavy comps.

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13 hours ago, Guest AnonymousContributor said:

For a tank, he doesn't feel pretty tanky imho. People just seem to pick him for his Heroics and Holy Ground at level 16. If you try to go solo tank with him, it's basically suicide. Not to mention having one of the worst traits in the game (if not THE worst.

To be fair, I never really saw Tyrael as a solo tank, even before this rework. He has a great mobility and utility for a tank, and often played a nice role as a secondary tank/bruiser, who excelled at disrupting backlines and giving support to chases/escapes.

I expected Blizzard to add a new functionality to his trait, though. As you pointed, it is one of the worst traits in the game  (much like any ability that plays after you died). It DOES has a nice use if you got Auriel in your party with resurrect, allowing you to blow up after death and be quickly back into action.

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On 3/18/2017 at 4:21 AM, Guest AnonymousContributor said:

Amplified Healing and Hardened Shield also gone, so there's that...

ah, i missed amplified healing - that is a nerf. but the new spell shield is essentially identical - IFF you drafted him against a spell heavy team like they want you to and aren't getting melted by AAs.

 

On 3/18/2017 at 4:21 AM, Guest AnonymousContributor said:

The 'buff' to W shield is laughable at best. It is still measly and goes down fast when focused.

I do agree that it's still not a huge shield, but against spells it now soaks about 25% more damage - percentage-wise this is a big spike.

 

On 3/18/2017 at 5:49 PM, Valhalen said:

To be fair, I never really saw Tyrael as a solo tank, even before this rework.

I actually agree with this, and I guess I should clarify from my post above that I don't think Tyrael was or is terribly strong. You are both right that his passive is garbage and his QWE kit overall often feels pretty weak. Just wanted to speak up and say that this patch is *not* an across-the-board nerf, and that his niche uses can now be even stronger.

 

oh, and last but not least (as it is pretty off topic:

On 3/18/2017 at 4:21 AM, Guest AnonymousContributor said:

Tychus, who's meta,

Is he? last I heard his range is down to like an inch and he doesn't have any good self healing anymore. Every time I face him now it seems like he has to way over-extend to even hit tanks and we just melt him whenever he does so. So if picking tyrael makes people counter with tychus maybe that's a good thing?...

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On 11. 4. 2017 at 4:56 PM, JohnBoyzear said:

Nub question, but does Reciprocate affect all shields, or just the one on Tyrael?

Based on what I just tried in testing room, ReciprocateReciprocate affects only your shield. Shields on allied heroes and minions do not explode.

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Guest XeaKon

Why is Purge Evil listed as Tyrael's first talent in the tank build when Regeneration Master gives him more hp regen and life ?

On a second note, I feel that vigorous strike is a viable talent to swift retribution especially for the tank buid .

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19 minutes ago, Guest XeaKon said:

Why is Purge Evil listed as Tyrael's first talent in the tank build when Regeneration Master gives him more hp regen and life ?

On a second note, I feel that vigorous strike is a viable talent to swift retribution especially for the tank buid .

You should be trying to strike the balance between damage and resilience. In this case, both talents are strong and can be picked based on your personal preference (mine being Regeneration MasterRegeneration Master most of the time), with Regeneration MasterRegeneration Master putting you closer to the tanky playstyle, and Purge EvilPurge Evil putting you closer to the bruiser playstyle.

You won't be dealing enough basic attack damage to make the Vigorous StrikeVigorous Strike a strong pick. The remaining two talents are up to personal preference. 

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Guest MachineCult

I'm sure there's twenty reasons I'm wrong, but I've had a reliable amount of success so far building Tyrael as a follow-up based bruiser. I know many of these talents were bashed in the guide, but hear me out.

Talent Path: 

1-Purge Evil

4-Vigorous Strike

7-Follow Through

10-Judgement

13-Burning Rage/Angelic Might

16-Holy Ground/Blood for Blood

20-Nexus Blades

 

On what I read in the guide regarding these talents, Vigorous Strike was discounted due to being able to sustain large amounts of damage, Tyrael's mobility combined with Follow Through gives appreciable returns.

Follow Through was criticized due to Tyrael's long cooldowns, however it's important to note for the sake of this talent, El'druin's Might and its teleport both count as individual abilities, if you rotate properly you can sustain Follow Through damage without any down time. I did catch the note that using El'druin's Might aggressively is a gamble, however this combo brings solid dueling, diving and harassment to the table. 

Angelic Might. The jury's still out on this one, because it's not very reliable however in this particular build, situationally it can really pack a punch and give you a nice chunk of self sustain. I do agree outside of this specific build it doesn't hold much merit. 

In conclusion, I suppose this build is perhaps only useful in niche situations during competitive play, or is comp dependent, but I've generally had favorable results with it, usually finishing in the top three in virtually every stat. I've successfully locked horns with Sonya, Malthael and Muradin with this build, so I'll continue to use it but just felt I would share. Maybe it just catches them off guard XD

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      Level 4 It's a Sabotage! [Passive] Damage over time duration reduced from 5 to 3 seconds. Damage per second increased from 50 to 75. Level 7 Norse Force! [Q] Base Shield increased from 130 to 140. Additional Shield for each Viking alive increased from 65 to 84. Level 10 Longboat Raid! [R2] Damage per second increased from 112 to 128. Level 16 Impatience Is a Virtue [Passive] Cooldown reduction increased from .25 seconds to .31 seconds. 64 KB Marathon [Z] Changed Functionality: Bonus Movement Speed no longer decays over its duration. Level 20 Ragnarok 'n' Roll! [R1] Additional Functionality: Reduce the cooldown of Longboat Raid by 30 seconds. Lucio
      Talents
      Level 1 Party Mix [W] New Functionality: Quest: Play Crossfade tracks to nearby allies. Reward: Every minute played increases Lucio’s Maximum Mana by 2%. After 8 Minutes of total play time, increase the range of Crossfade by 20%. Level 7 Boombox [Active] Cast range increased by 100% (5 to 10 grid). Health increased from 350 to 600. Additional Functionality: Allies affected by Boombox gain 5 Armor. Level 10 High Five [R2] Self-heal reduced from 125 to 80. Level 13 Slip [Z] Armor reduced from 20 to 15. Level 16 Up To Eleven [E] New Functionality: Increase the duration of Amp It Up by 1 second. While Amp It Up is active, enemy Heroes hit with Soundwave or Push-Off increase it’s duration by an additional .3 seconds. Level 20 Mixing Fire [R2] Damage dealt reduced from 225 to 160. Cost and cooldown reduction reduced from 50% to 30%. Uther
      Base
      Devotion [Trait] Adjusted Functionality: Uther’s Basic Abilities grant 25 Armor to allied Heroes, and 15 to Uther, for 2 seconds. Talents
      Level 16 Beacon of Light [Q] Self-healing bonus increased from 100% to 125%. Self-healing bonus at low Health increased from 200% to 250%. Tyr's Deliverance [W] Maximum stacks increased from 4 to 7. Level 20 Divine Protection [Trait] Additional Functionality: Sets Devotion Armor for both allied Heroes and Uther to 50. Azmodan
      Base
      Globe of Annihilation [Q] Level scaling increased from 2.5 to 4%. Talents
      Level 1 Greed [Q] Non-Heroic damage bonus reduced from 20 to 15%. Gluttony [Q] Annihilation earned from Hero hits increased from 3 to 4. Level 7 Master of Destruction [E] Annihilation earned from Hero hits reduced from 4 to 2. Level 10 Demonic Invasion [R1] Range decreased from 20 to 13.5. Demonic Grunt attack damage reduced from 42 to 39. Level 16 Hell Rift [E] Demon Warrior damage bonus reduced from 100 to 75%. Level 20 Siegebreaker [R1] Damage bonus reduced from 50 to 40%. Pride [Q] Damage bonus increased from 100 to 125. Falstad
      Base
      Lightning Rod [W] Lightning Rod verifies its targets is in range more frequently, from every second to every .25 seconds. Lightning Rod now uses a custom range indicator. Talents
      Level 1 Gathering Storm [Q] Hammerang damage bonus per stack increased from 0.2% to 0.4%. Dishonorable Discharge [W] Lightning Rod cooldown reduction reduced from 3 to 2 seconds. Lightning Rod damage bonus per stack decreased from 1% to .75%, maximum bonus remains 75%. Changed Functionality: Takedowns resetting Lightning Rod's cooldown now gained on quest completion. Level 13 Thunderstrikes [W] Damage bonus per stack increased from 20% to 25%. Changed Functionality: Thunderstrikes' damage bonus no longer affects other Lightning Rod bonuses. Junkrat
      Base
      Frag Launcher [Q] Damage increased from 118 to 124. Talents
      Level 1 Extra-Wound Timers [Q] Damage bonus increased from 80% to 120%. Level 7 Big As [E] Additional Functionality: Steel Trap only hits Heroes. Level 10 Rocket Ride [R2] Damage increased from 890 to 935. Tassadar
      Base
      Shock Ray [Q] Channel duration reduced from .75 to .6875 seconds. Talents
      Level 4 Induction [Q] Changed Functionality: Tassadar gains 10% increased Movement Speed. Casting Shock Ray increases this bonus to 30% for 3 seconds. Level 7 Beam Alignment [Q] Mana cost reduction increased from 10 to 15. Additional Functionality: While Resonance Beam is fully charged, Shock Ray’s Slow duration is increased to 4 seconds. Level 13 Shadow Walk [Active] Armor increased from 25 to 35. Return to Top
      Bug Fixes
      Battlegrounds
      Added Warhead Junction to Ranked Play. Removed Volskaya from Ranked Play. Heroes
      E.T.C. Crowd Surfer no longer causes spells queued after Powerslide to be cast without an animation. Rexxar Casting Misha, Charge! and Misha Focus! at the same time will no longer occasionally cancel the ability. Uther Tyr's Deliverance no longer increases Uther's Holy Light self Healing. Return to Top
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    • By Staff
      There's a new type of talent coming to Heroes of the Storm, as Blizz_Daybringer revealed on r/heroesofthestorm today. Loan talents are ment to be "the opposite of quests", as they give a lot of power up-front and then become weaker and weaker, with the Johanna example we got losing one quarter of it's power with each death, so they will lose some effect when something negative happens. 
      Loan Talents (source)
      Good morning Heroes!
      There is some new content coming right around the corner and I wanted to take a quick minute to share something that will be entering the Nexus shortly - Loan Talents. Here is a sneak-peek at one of them:
      Divine Fortress
      Basic Attacks against enemy Heroes grant 15 Physical Armor for 3 seconds, stacking up to 60.
      Loan: Johanna gains 20% maximum Health. Lose 5% of this bonus every time she dies.
      The idea behind these was to give fairly substantial up-front power spikes that can either help carry you to victory or potentially lose potency over time - think of them as sort of 'reverse-quests'. Play smart and they can be extremely powerful over the course of the game, but know that by choosing it, you also put a pretty substantial target over your head... cough, Convection, cough.
      Anyways, the team is excited to see what you think about these and get them into your hands as soon as possible! Have a wonderful day and we will see you in the Nexus! ❤️
    • By Staff
      The Icy Veins Masters Clash Championship continues today at 6 PM Paris time. Check out the schedule of all upcoming matches for this weekend!
      About the Event
      Masters Clash Championship is a Heroes of the Storm tournament sponsored by Icy Veins, where teams compete for a prize pool of 10,000 EUR.
      Event Schedule
      May 1 (Saturday)
      Match 1: Inting for Ruby vs. The Hardos at 6:00 PM Paris time Match 2: ArthasStroitHram vs. SoundLess at 8:00 PM Paris time. May 2 (Sunday)
      Match 1: Go Next vs. 30K at 6:00 PM Paris time. Match 2: The donuts vs. Chilly Mountain at 8:00 PM Paris time. Here is the exact schedule of all the matches for this weekend.

      Head over to the official site for more details about the event
      Where to Watch
       English stream (Khaldor)  French stream (Malganyr)  German stream (TazzDingo)  Russian stream (Noizen)  Spanish stream (Orhy)
    • By Staff
      The Icy Veins Masters Clash Championship continues tomorrow at 6 PM Paris time. Check out the schedule of upcoming matches for this weekend!
      About the Event
      Masters Clash Championship is a Heroes of the Storm tournament sponsored by Icy Veins, where teams compete for a prize pool of 10,000 EUR.
      Event Schedule
      April 24 (Saturday)
      Match 1: The donuts vs. Inting for Ruby at 6:00 PM Paris time Match 2: SoundLess vs. SoundLess at 8:00 PM Paris time. April 25 (Sunday)
      Match 1: Go Next vs. ArthasStroitHram at 6:00 PM Paris time. Match 2: The Hardos vs. 30K at 8:00 PM Paris time. Here is the exact schedule of the upcoming matches for this weekend.

       
      Head over to the official site for more details.
      Where to Watch
       English stream (Khaldor)  French stream (Malganyr)  German stream (TazzDingo)  Russian stream (Noizen)  Spanish stream (Orhy)
    • By Staff
      Here are the results of the latest Masters Clash Championship matches from Saturday and Sunday
      About the Event
      Masters Clash Championship is a Heroes of the Storm tournament sponsored by Icy Veins, where teams compete for a prize pool of 10,000 EUR. 48% of all matches have been played.
      Match Results
      On  Saturday, The Hardos defeated SoundLess in the first match and ArthasStroitHram won against Inting for Ruby.
      On Sunday, Chilly Mountain defeated Go Next 3:2 and in the second match, 30K claimed victory against The donuts.

      When Will We See More Matches?
      The event continues on April 24 at 6:00 PM Paris time. You can find a full schedule of all upcoming matches here.
      Where to Watch
      You can watch the event in multiple languages. Links to localized streams can be found below.
       English stream (Khaldor)  French stream (Malganyr)  German stream (TazzDingo)  Russian stream (Noizen)  Spanish stream (Orhy)
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