5.4 Destruction Tips and Quirks

[Nytemare 2]

Just got BBoY normal version from our Garry kill. Currently have heroic PBI, and Normal non-warforged KTT. You say BBoY  can be better than KTT if properly utilized. to properly utilled it you talking about making sure to have a CB go off at 9-10 stack always right?

[Liquidsteel 279]

BBoY can be better than KTT, just as KTT can be better than BBoY. Both are subject to RNG and fight mechanics.

We went over this in detail previously. I'm still sticking with my stance that if you aren't 14/14H yet you should stick with KTT as it requires far less micro management, meaning you won't get distracted from the fight mechanics or waste BBoY procs because of them.

[Lockybalboa 618]

You say BBoY  can be better than KTT if properly utilized. to properly utilled it you talking about making sure to have a CB go off at 9-10 stack always right?

 

 

It's more then that, it's the in fight complexity that BBoY adds also. You need to not just get it good the first time, you need to do it just about EVERY time. And that can be a little problematic in a lot of situations in heroic raiding.

 

For me, it's easy to use BBoY because I've been farming full heroic content for 6 months now, there is nothing new that happens. I can do most of the fights in my sleep and with almost no movement.  I know what is going to happen 10 steps in advance and can plan accordingly. 

 

I agree with Liquidsteel, unless you're farming 14/14hm, I don't recommend using BBoY. Or at the very least don't use it on non-farm fights. Anything involving progression I wouldn't touch BBoY for, also if you got a heroic KTT to replace your reg BBoY I would do it, farm or progression ilvl wins 99% of the time.

[Nytemare 2]

It's more then that, it's the in fight complexity that BBoY adds also. You need to not just get it good the first time, you need to do it just about EVERY time. And that can be a little problematic in a lot of situations in heroic raiding.

 

For me, it's easy to use BBoY because I've been farming full heroic content for 6 months now, there is nothing new that happens. I can do most of the fights in my sleep and with almost no movement.  I know what is going to happen 10 steps in advance and can plan accordingly. 

 

I agree with Liquidsteel, unless you're farming 14/14hm, I don't recommend using BBoY. Or at the very least don't use it on non-farm fights. Anything involving progression I wouldn't touch BBoY for, also if you got a heroic KTT to replace your reg BBoY I would do it, farm or progression ilvl wins 99% of the time.

 

Currently we have first five bosses on farm, I know them. We just got to 6/14 by downing DS for the first time this Sunday. We only have two healers, so we not geared enough to heal Heroic IJ, we can get him to 35-40% in p1, but come seige healers can't keep us alive. So for the most part first 6 bosses I know what going to happen. From DS-Garry on normal we have on farm. DS being new I could get heroic KTT next week or five weeks from now.

 

So BBoY is good on bosses that are farmed, and progression ones stick to KTT. Of course I know if I get heroic KTT to use it, but who knows when that will happen. Just got heroic PBI after 8 weeks doing him.

[Nytemare 2]

Not where I was coming from. Currently I have non-warforged KTT 4/4, just got BBoy I was trying to figure out if it worth using, thus wasting 1K valor to fully upgrade, or just stick to what I have. We will be able to down DS everytime from now on, as once we figure out the strat and do it the first time, we have come in the next week and 1-2 shot the boss and move on. So with possible of heroic KTT coming as early as next week, is BBoY worth it is what trying to figure out. 1K valor is lot that could be used on new Heroic Boots I got from gal, or be saved for a 4/4 of Heroic KTT if I get it (drop/bonus rolled next week)

 

Only trying to figure this out as I am a Destro lock. If I was Affliction/Demo I would upgraded it in a heart beat as I believe its BIS for those spec. Well affliction I am pretty sure it is.

Edited September 15, 2014 by Nytemare

[Liquidsteel 279]

In this instance I would save your valour and keep the BBoY at 0/4 til you get a surplus or decide to switch to Affliction (kinda pointless as in a few weeks it will become the most boring spec in the gane).

[Phenax 12]

BBoY and KTT are pretty close in power level for destro but BBoY is a lot more unforgiving. A good scenario to explain this is if you are targeted by a sawblade on siegecrafter 6 stacks into black blood, it makes it so that you have to move for the rest of the proc and you really don't get much out of it. A KTT proc would still give you a good five seconds to have a pretty buffed chaos bolt. It's also more demanding on you using it correctly just by how the proc works (again, less good times to sink in chaos bolts if you only have two embers). On the 4/5 bosses a week where I do go destro I use KTT because they're movement heavy fights but using BBoY gives you a higher upside in 10-stack chaos bolts and arguably more engaging gameplay.

 

If you don't care about trying aff definitely just upgrade your boots.

[Nytemare 2]

Ah yeah I will not play affliction hated since vanilla, I am a destro/Demo type of lock. So ok that what I wanted to check. I keep KTT and just hold off until next week to see what I get, then upgrade the boots or whatever.

 

Regarding BBoy since I play a frost mage as well, I pretty use to have to time it right, just wanted to see if it was really worth sinking my only 1K valor into it when come next week I could get Heroic KTT

Edited September 16, 2014 by Nytemare