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On 2/10/2017 at 5:20 PM, Guest Azkøjin said:

I have a problem with my fury warrior, I reach 25.8% haste but when I use simulation craft it say to me mastery is the first stat ... wtf ?! Why? Someone can help me !? 

Because you are at 30% Haste with the Haste buff. Do you by any chance have all raid buffs turned on? Also, is Haste your second best stat?

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2 hours ago, Blainie said:

Because you are at 30% Haste with the Haste buff. Do you by any chance have all raid buffs turned on? Also, is Haste your second best stat?

The haste buff ? Which one ? :o

In simulation craft I turned on all the raid buffs, but they're only the bloodlust buff in the option menu

Now my simulation craft says Mastery is the best I think. If you want to try with your simulation craft : Azkøjin EU Hyjal

I try again this afternoon to see chat's happen.

 

(sorry for my bad english but i'm french :p)

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28 minutes ago, Guest Azkøjin said:

The haste buff ? Which one ? :o

Sorry, when I first googled your name I thought I found your warrior using the Frenzy talent. Never mind my first message! 

As for the sims, you are simming correctly. It's entirely possible that, given your other levels of stats, that you have hit the part where Mastery > Haste happens slightly earlier. It's not an exact 30% mark where the interaction changes, it can sometimes be slightly earlier I believe.

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33 minutes ago, Guest Azkøjin said:

Simulation craft results

Confirming that I got the same results for you.

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5 minutes ago, Azkojin said:

Ok nice ! So I use this results !! Thanks guy !!

No problem, glad to have helped :)

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I am currently stuck between 2 builds:

-The first has the legendary head & ring equipped and has an equipped ilvl of 894. It's at 30% haste and 34% mastery.

-The second has the legendary head & bracers equipped and has an equipped ilvl of 896. It's at 31% haste and 39% mastery. It also brings 700 more strenght.

 

my questions are the following:

 

-How strict should we follow the 30% haste breakpoint? Should we do anything to stay around 30% or is it not all that necessary?

-How big of an importance is the legendary ring to equip still? It's stats are simply aweful and it's proc rate has been drastically nerfed. Statwise, I have already 3 pieces that would be so much more fitting, so I really wonder if it's still worth the effort.

-As a result of the answers given to the questions above, which build would be best?

Would mean a lot if someone could answer these questions!

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18 hours ago, Crucifixus said:

I am currently stuck between 2 builds

I've deleted your post as a guest so that there isn't a double post. 

18 hours ago, Crucifixus said:

-How strict should we follow the 30% haste breakpoint? Should we do anything to stay around 30% or is it not all that necessary?

The 30% mark is basically a guideline. It might be that, depending on your gear, you might find Mastery becomes your priority over Haste at 28% or something. It's not a 100% completely accurate mark that you NEED to aim for. It's just a point where it swaps from Haste > Mastery to Mastery > Haste.

18 hours ago, Crucifixus said:

-How big of an importance is the legendary ring to equip still? It's stats are simply aweful and it's proc rate has been drastically nerfed. Statwise, I have already 3 pieces that would be so much more fitting, so I really wonder if it's still worth the effort.

Since your only other option is the bracers, the ring is better.

18 hours ago, Crucifixus said:

-As a result of the answers given to the questions above, which build would be best?

Head + Ring.

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39 minutes ago, Blainie said:

I've deleted your post as a guest so that there isn't a double post. 

The 30% mark is basically a guideline. It might be that, depending on your gear, you might find Mastery becomes your priority over Haste at 28% or something. It's not a 100% completely accurate mark that you NEED to aim for. It's just a point where it swaps from Haste > Mastery to Mastery > Haste.

Since your only other option is the bracers, the ring is better.

Head + Ring.

Thanks a lot for your answers! I guess I'll have to start learning simcraft to see what is best in that case. It's also nice to know that I can be a bit more lenient with handling the stats.

I do also have the boots and the shoulders, but I guess the answer will stay the same for those options as well. I'll cross my fingers for the cloak as my next drop:)

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17 minutes ago, Crucifixus said:

I do also have the boots and the shoulders, but I guess the answer will stay the same for those options as well. I'll cross my fingers for the cloak as my next drop:)

Yeah, they don't do much for DPS unless you desperately need mobility for a fight. Good luck with future drops! :)

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Well, i've a little bit problem with my dps and hope you should help me to improve it

http://eu.battle.net/wow/it/character/pozzo-delleternita/Einherjår/simple (Yeah, i know 23% Haste unbuffed it's a crap)

Basically i try to do my best with the rotation. The problem is when i have up RAMPAGE (RA) and BLOODTHIRST (BT) togheter. Should i go RA -> RB (raging blow) -> BT -> RB or i should go BT -> RB -> RA -> RB. (Probably i miss something in my rotation)

Yes, i know i ask for a stupid question but i try all i can to max my DPS cause it's very low. Like 450dps,

All constructive critics are appreciated cause i want do my best on dps but i'm stuck in shit tier. Thank you

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23 hours ago, Einherjar said:

Yes, i know i ask for a stupid question but i try all i can to max my DPS cause it's very low. Like 450dps,

All constructive critics are appreciated cause i want do my best on dps but i'm stuck in shit tier.

So, it can be very tough to help based on what you have told me so far - is it possible for you to post a log of your DPS (even just testing on a dummy) in the Warrior forum? I can't really tell you what you are doing wrong at the moment, unfortunately. 

Also, Rampage > BT if rage capped, or if BT will cap you. If not, you go BT > R.

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5 hours ago, Blainie said:

So, it can be very tough to help based on what you have told me so far - is it possible for you to post a log of your DPS (even just testing on a dummy) in the Warrior forum? I can't really tell you what you are doing wrong at the moment, unfortunately. 

Also, Rampage > BT if rage capped, or if BT will cap you. If not, you go BT > R.

Ofc, i just do it on Warrior fury selection ;)

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2 minutes ago, Einherjar said:

Ofc, i just do it on Warrior fury selection ;)

Thanks! Will take a look at it now :)

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On 2/8/2017 at 0:27 AM, Blainie said:

Damn! I wonder if this is an intended interaction or something that might be fixed (especially your later points). Thanks for sharing nonetheless, I'm sure this will help some of the other readers!

 

I edited my last part, It may have been misunderstood. You wouldn't lose your rage if the mob died mid rampage from a massacre proc, just if it was a normal rage consuming Rampage.

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Hello, thanks for your guides. I'm having an issue with the stat priority. I sim a good amount higher with mastery than with haste. For example I got a 900ilvl ring from my class chest today, but it has no haste. It has 2000+ mastery 900+ vers, and the ring I had equipped before had 1780 haste 800 mastery(880ilvl). Simcraft said the mast/vers ring gave me a 7k dps increase( which is a decent increase). With the 880 ring I was at 26% haste(no food) 41% mastery. With the 900 ring it dropped my haste to 21% increased mastery to 45%. I have 4pc tier and a DoS(900). Should the stat priority be different once DoS and 4 pc tier is obtained? Before simming I would have been lead to believe that the haste ring would be better.. 26% down to 21% haste is a huge drop.. does mastery overtake haste because of increased damage with draught of souls during enrage and the 4 pc tier lengthening enrage time? So... what to believe..21% haste but more mastery is better than 26% haste less mastery.. with my setup. But everyone is trying to get their 4 pc and their DoS trinkets so, maybe there should be an update?

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19 hours ago, Guest Baydes said:

Should the stat priority be different once DoS and 4 pc tier is obtained? 

100% possible - could you link me your armoury? I want to check a few things.

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We are currently in the process of updating our guides in preparation for the release of 7.2 - please understand that we will not be answering questions in this section about "What is better for 7.2?" prior to the patch release, since all the information will be available when the patch goes live. Please be patient and thanks for waiting!

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In case this guide is already updated to 7.2 I found a tiny mistake.

Stat Priority chapter says at the very end: 

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Currently Fury no longer has any breakpoints, and Haste remains the most powerful stat. Mastery stays very close however, and aiming to stack both of these is ideal.

On the very next page Gems, Enchants, and Consumables it is said:

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you should use Quick Dawnlight Icon Quick Dawnlight in other sockets to reach the 30% Haste breakpoint, and if you exceed that exchange it for Masterful Shadowruby Icon Masterful Shadowruby instead.

and

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If you exceed 30% Haste, use Mastery enchants instead.

So what is right? Does this breaking point around 30% Haste still exist or not? If not, does Haste have the highest priority over Mastery all the time?

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5 hours ago, Guest Roflkatoffl said:

In case this guide is already updated to 7.2 I found a tiny mistake.

Stat Priority chapter says at the very end: 

On the very next page Gems, Enchants, and Consumables it is said:

and

So what is right? Does this breaking point around 30% Haste still exist or not? If not, does Haste have the highest priority over Mastery all the time?

Not to mention if strength is now third in priority would it be better to use a quick dawnlight instead of a saber's eye of strength?

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      New Dungeons and Loot Item Levels in The War Within Season 1 Nerub'ar Palace Raid Bosses and Item Level of Rewards War Within Season 1 Nerub'ar Palace Tier Sets Sneak Peek Nerub'ar Palace Raid Environments and Enemies (War Within Alpha) Heroic Raid Week Returns With Nerub'ar Palace in War Within Season 1! Mounts
      Mole Mounts in the War Within (New) War Within Dynamic Flight Preview (Official) (New) The War Within Season 1 Vicious Mounts Preview Gladiator Mounts in The War Within Season 1&2: Gold/Silver Armored Fel Bat Delver's Dirigible: Customizable Mounts from the Delves Story
      Important Lore Character Dies in the War Within? The Fate of Dalaran in The War Within Pre-Patch Event New Alleria, Anduin, and Xal'atath Models in The War Within The World
      Earthen Racials in The War Within (New) War Within Zone Screenshots A Look at the Earthen Allied Race
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