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I, like many others, are trying to maximize DPS for their respective classes, mine in particular being ret paladin.
In general, it seems like there are several sources of information for dps for each class.
Icy Veins Mr Robot Raidbots (Simulation Craft) Warcraft Logs Each with its own set of criteria as to what determines high dps. And I find inconsistency when bouncing between the different sources. I want to understand what am I missing when it comes to each. I will lay out what I currently understand, and would like some feedback as to what I may not be considering in each as well as some advice as to what other options I could be exploring (resources) to further the insight into whats applicable for my current state.
For Icy Veins, in particular, the stat weights, are mostly vaguely determined. From the ret guide:
If I am reading this right, its Mastery >= Haste > Ver >= Crit = Str
I use the addOn and I subscribe for the Best In Bags function. When I plug in my information in, the site recommends that I go with my 2pce t20 and balance around my legendaries with a focus on haste pieces (haste gems are emphasized).
Stat weights as listed in MrRobot:
MrRobot Stat Weights
From what I am seeing, Crit is most emphasized, and the one crit gem + ring crit enchants were originally recommended by MrRobot here. Also another notable thing here is haste being way behind crit's potential.
For RaidBots, I use the addOn, and play around with various items I hoard, and use the stat weights functions. Generally the feedback I get here are to stick with the current gem setup and with regards to stat weights, emphasize at my current setup with crit. It also says I should drop some of my high ilvl pieces (935 head, and 960 chest) for 4pce (915 head, lfr 890 chest)
Vers -> crit -> mastery -> haste -> str
I mostly use Warcraft Logs to check what the top dps players (ret pallys) are hitting and what setups are they running. I don't want to specifically link player armories in here, but upon some investigation, you'll find most are just stacking haste
I understand stat weights are relative, however it seems like everyone has different priorities, one says mastery, another vers, another crit, another haste?
Help me understand.
I recently went Guardian from Resto. Theoretically I know my rotation, cd, etc. I'm running Antorus HC, i got the curve and i think to hold with not many problems every boss but seeing my logs my performance is always low.
I don't know where I make my mistakes but I think to have these issues:
My damage taken is always minor than other tanks; My damage dealt... same (I build my bear full defense but my dps seems to be too low); Sometimes i have threat problem (especially with paladins or warrior); I should selfheal more but i don't see the need when I am full: i prefer to stack ironfur. What can i do to improve?
If you wanna see my armor, look here.
I don't aim to shine, but, at least, be on a average rank :p
Thank you all
Hi, Im having shoulders with 925 ilevel, mastery and verstality, but also I do have shoulders 915 ilevel, haste and avoidance.
Whats better, lower item level but with best stats (haste/avoidance), or higher item level but with mastery and versa ??
In overall, is it better to aim for "best" stats or just push item level first?
Question regarding WW stat priority - is there ever a point where I'll want to choose something like Vers or Haste over Mastery or Crit, in a single-target situation? (I understand that Haste > Crit in multi-target)
I'm still a little new to WW in Legion, here's a link to my character if that helps at all. At the moment I'm sitting at 52% Mastery and 47% Crit, since I'm still missing 1 tier piece to complete my 4-set. Tier will definitely change up my stats, but with such high Crit I've been wondering if Legion has some sort of soft cap on stats, especially this late in the expansion, or if there are certain percentages where I'll want to start taking other stats?...
I've never shared a deck but I'll make an exception sharing one of my most successful decks (played on the ladder up to rank 3 several months)
It's a Keleseth Rogue with very peculiar cards and the biggest difference is that Deathwing is mostly the win-condition of the deck
Here is the masterpiece :D
2X Elven Archer
2X Southsea Deckhand
1X Patches the Pirate
1X Prince Keleseth
1X Acolyte of Pain
2X SI:7 Agent
2X Southsea Captain
1X Edwin VanCleef
1X Shaku, the Collector
2X Saronite Chain Gang
2X Nesting Roc
2X Vilespine Slayer
1X The Black Knight
1X The Curator
Elven Archer is mainly a combo activator that is more useful than Fire Fly since it does damage and can be shadowstepped if needs and save countless damage to face when big minions remain on the field with 1 hp saving you from taking huge face damage to ping them, the card really shine in the deck to the point to deserving to name it
The Curator is there to pull Deathwing mostly and you get also a Nesting Roc in the process
Nesting Roc takes the place of Cobalt Scalebane commonly seen to add synergy to Curator, give a strong minion that priest almost never remove or a 7 hp taunt that I find more useful than a 5/5 do nothing
The Black Knight was added to help Vilespine removing high health minions that mostly have taunt to direct Vilespine on the other minions
Deathwing is the big surprise because it usually win matches on its own even matches that are completely off control can be win thanks to him.
Most people tend to go all in when see a Rogue in late game because almost nobody with similar decks bring aoe removal and even less can suspect that the dragon you pull with The Curator is Deathwing himself wrongfully think that is probably a Cobalt Scalebane
Against a Jade Druid landing a Deathwing is almost guaranteed to end the game because they spend any removal on the other minions and tend to go wide with boards resulting in losing 6-7 minions and have to face a 12 attack minion that they need at least 2 turns, turns they don't have cause Deathwing going face and leaving them dead.
Not drawing Keleseth early here isn't much a loss because you not need to win as fast as possible othwerwise you are doomed because usually the plan B works better than the plan A because the deck run so many minion that almost nobody save a removal for the 'surprise' Deathwing.
If someone wants try it let me know how was. I used this from rank 15 to 3 for 3 months already winning most of the matches without much problems against the most commonly found decks in standard.