Sojnekah

BM DPS Help: My DPS Has Gotten Low

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Hey there, looking for some common mistakes I might be making in my gear or dps rotation that I am just not seeing. You'd think it would be pretty basic but my dps has been all over the place recently. 

I will be fighting kiljaeden (pretty standard) and have anywhere from 650-850dps average for the fight. It's gotten me kicked a couple times obviously despite being good on mechanics. I've reviewed several guides, made sure I am enchanted and gemmed... cannot figure it out. What am I doing wrong? (Yes low on meters for other fights as well though not always). 

924 iLevel, wearing legendary belt and chest (dont have tier to wear shoulders and chest)

67% Mastery (issue?) 
24% Critical Strike
29% Haste

Opener: Blood Fury, Tome (trinket), Crow, Bestial Wrath, Dire Frenzy, KC, AspectotW, Titan's Thunder, CS, KC, DF...

Repeat KC, CS, And cast DF whenever buff falls off or procs bonus. 

Talent Build is:
Cobra
Frenzy
Posthaste
Bestial
Int
Crow
Killer Cobra

Helps, tips, advice welcome. 

Are there common mistakes to rotation i might be making even if u dont see it here? Should i be working hard to gear swap? I am at a loss and it is getting frustrating. Thanks

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Here is what i see my friend. You need way more Mastery. You are running the DF build so your talents are correct, you want the 4pT20 which is correct, and you have 2 of the best legendaries equipped. However, 1 of your rings, your neck, and your bracers have no Mastery at all. This is your top stat as a DF BM hunter. Looking at your logs you seem to be playing the DF stack game pretty well which is usually where DF hunters are lacking proper execution. Where you do seem to be losing some dps is during Aspect of the Wild. You want to be sure to have 2-3 DF stacks for the duration of it. This means delaying DF a bit when you know that AotW is coming up. The haste from 3 stacks with Thunderlash will put out some high damage on the target. Those are the only 2 things I see readily. Get more mastery by swapping out those offset non mastery pieces and make sure you have high DF stacks during AotW. 

 

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Thanks, will do. Really appreciate checking my logs for the detailed view. Will try to better line up AotW usage. As for the mastery... just trying what gear I can. Those pieces without mastery either replaced pieces without mastery or were 20+ iLevel higher... Doing best I can there. 

Some people have recommended going back for T19 2 piece and saying fuck the gear difference for stomp build. Thoughts on this? Not viable as I get higher gear? 

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Personal pref really. With no T19 and 4pT20, the builds are close enough to just play what you like imo. I think DF is theoretically higher but not by enough that that is the only way to go. The crit build benefits from 2pT19 more than the DF build does so stacking 2pT19 with 4pT20 is very popular for Stomp hunters. At some point though, the increased ilvl from ToS gear will overtake the 2pT19 bonus and ppl will start dropping 2pT19 bonus for the much higher ilvl ToS gear. Running 2p + 4p also requires good legendaries in off-set slots. If all you have is head and pants, you are out of luck. if you have Belt and the new Ring, you are set. Holding onto the 2pT19 will yield stomp hunters more dps but only to a point and that point is on a case by case basis. if your T19 is on LFR and now you are getting T20 Heroic, its probably time to drop it but only personal sims using your gear and what is available to equip will determine the bests combo of set bonuses and legendaries. 

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22 hours ago, Sojnekah said:

Some people have recommended going back for T19 2 piece and saying fuck the gear difference for stomp build. Thoughts on this? Not viable as I get higher gear? 

That depends on what tier 19 pieces and legendaries you have. I use the tier 19 2-set, tier 20 4-set with the legendary belt and ring of the huntsman, with Dire Frenzy and Blink Strikes (since the huntsman gives me Bestial Fury already), which works really well, so that's another alternative if you don't like Stomp so much.

Looking at your logs it seems you've been using Stomp for two weeks though, so I'm not sure why you wrote that you're not. Do you not like it?

I would recommend changing the neck enchant for Mark of the Trained Soldier. If you look at your logs Hidden Satyr only deals around 2% of your damage.

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