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Can someone explain the rationale behind Flametongue being at "average" because that definitely seems a bit low...

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Can someone explain the rationale behind Flametongue being at "average" because that definitely seems a bit low...

Flametongue Totem is extremely situational as you require a rather solid board setup in order to get full benefit out of the card - in other words, you can't just pop it on an empty board and expect it to bring in the value. Because of this dependency you should compare Flametongue Totem to other class cards and not neutral minions and I believe that you wouldn't pick Flametongue over Rockbiter Weapon or Stormforged Axe, nor would you pick it over Forked Lightning or Lightning Bolt if it was your first card to pick.

I do agree however that "average" doesn't sound right for Flametotem, because its a good card, the other cards in those tiers are simply better. :)

 

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Did pretty damn good my best run with shaman following this spreadsheet had a nice 7-0 streak then hit some losses and finished with a 9/3 finish

 

This was the deck i build out

 

1x Earth Shock
2x Rockbiter Weapon
1x Abusive Sergeant
1x Argent Squire
1x Stormforged Axe
1x Flametongue Totem
1x Kobold Geomancer
3x Loot Hoarder
1x Mad Bomber
2x Feral Spirit
1x Hex
1x Demolisher
1x Ironforge Rifleman
1x Questing Adventurer
1x Raging Worgen
1x Unbound Elemental
1x Dark iron Dwarf
1x Spellbreaker
1x Windspeaker
1x Earth Elemental
1x Fen Creeper
1x Spiteful Smith
1x Boulderfist Ogre
1x Cairne Bloodhoof
1x Hogger
1x Reckless Rocketeer
 
any tips or advice?

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I my first win streak right now,  using the suggested cards. Thanks so much I have been playing  about 2 months and always had a horrid time with arena. (3 wins was my top)

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I my first win streak right now,  using the suggested cards. Thanks so much I have been playing  about 2 months and always had a horrid time with arena. (3 wins was my top)

I'm glad to hear its working out for you. Keep it up!

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I think the list is lacking feral spirits.

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I think the list is lacking feral spirits.

They are Rare cards, and, as such, are listed in the Rare tab :)

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Sorry but you have to be nuts to consider Flametongue average. It raises in value based on the number of lower cost creatures and token generators in your deck. Situational? Forked lightning is very situational. severely hampers your tempo if played early on and not guaranteed to hit it's targets. Cleave is very solid because it doesn't ruin your next turn.

 

Flametongue is one of the very top commons for Shaman.  If it doesn't work for you then you're not playing it properly or your drafting style revolves around too many high cost minions.

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Sorry but you have to be nuts to consider Flametongue average. It raises in value based on the number of lower cost creatures and token generators in your deck. Situational? Forked lightning is very situational. severely hampers your tempo if played early on and not guaranteed to hit it's targets. Cleave is very solid because it doesn't ruin your next turn.

 

Flametongue is one of the very top commons for Shaman.  If it doesn't work for you then you're not playing it properly or your drafting style revolves around too many high cost minions.

Normally I consider picking a Fire Elemental and some early removal over it during the initial picks, however I seem to have overlooked it at the spreadsheet and you are absolutely right. Flametongue is amazing. Will adjust it asap.

Thanks for pointing it out, IcyMist

Regards,

Poyo

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