positiv2 946 Report post Posted October 13, 2020 This thread is for comments about our Arms Warrior Shadowlands Guide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trebot Report post Posted November 2, 2020 For multiple target rotations Cleave replaces Sweeping Strikes. Can't use both. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 4 Report post Posted December 2, 2020 On 11/1/2020 at 7:29 PM, Guest Trebot said: For multiple target rotations Cleave replaces Sweeping Strikes. Can't use both. Cleave replaced Sweeping Strikes during the beta, but that was changed before launch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragonphire 0 Report post Posted December 8, 2020 It was mentioned that something about Cleave changed so i'm not sure if the guide just hasn't been updated. But the build page lists Cleave as the ideal level 40 talent for Open World, Leveling, Questing, Dungeons and Mythic Plus, yet even when selected on the rotation page, Cleave is not included in any rotation. It's mentioned as being used to maintain Deep Wounds but not included in the same 2-3 Target rotation that this mention is included in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 4 Report post Posted December 9, 2020 11 hours ago, Dragonphire said: It was mentioned that something about Cleave changed so i'm not sure if the guide just hasn't been updated. But the build page lists Cleave as the ideal level 40 talent for Open World, Leveling, Questing, Dungeons and Mythic Plus, yet even when selected on the rotation page, Cleave is not included in any rotation. It's mentioned as being used to maintain Deep Wounds but not included in the same 2-3 Target rotation that this mention is included in. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, because Cleave does show up in the multitarget rotations (it could probably be rewritten to be a little more exact though, as you will use Cleave outside of only maintaining Deep Wounds - that's just the highest priority use case). You won't use cleave at all in Single Target though, as it is strictly worse than Mortal Strike or Slam. There does seem to be a bug where the page loads with some boxes pre-checked, but not actually displayed in the rotation - unchecking and rechecking the boxes should fix it. I don't think this is a bug on my end though, so I'll have to let one of the web-gurus take a look at it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
durdyenglish 206 Report post Posted December 10, 2020 W A R B R E A K E R Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaelath 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 11:42 AM, durdyenglish said: W A R B R E A K E R Warbreaker vs Cleave is a20 dps difference, As with how cleave currently works I'd be confident enough to say that if you do run cleave you run Massacre as well and fully replace Whirlwind with Cleave due to Cleave working like Legion Whirlwind now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gujarok 0 Report post Posted December 15, 2020 Hey there, In your guide, you are talking about desyncing avatar and bladestorm when using the legendary signet of the tormented king. I was asking myself what is exactly this desync and will you guys do an updated rotation when using this legendary? Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 4 Report post Posted December 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Gujarok said: Hey there, In your guide, you are talking about desyncing avatar and bladestorm when using the legendary signet of the tormented king. I was asking myself what is exactly this desync and will you guys do an updated rotation when using this legendary? Thank you Good question, it's actually no longer necessary, as Blizzard just hotfixed it, but Signet used to have a 3s internal cooldown, limiting you from triggering back to back buffs. This mandated desyncing them (not casting Avatar at the same time as Ravager or Bladestorm) in order to not overlap and only proc one buff instead of two. Since the recent hotfix removed the internal cooldown, however, there's no need to worry about it - simply follow the regular rotation as you would normally. I'll update the guide to reflect this as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Orkvalp Report post Posted December 16, 2020 Hey, Im so trying to find out what is the best slot to craft Signet of Tormented Kings. Bracers or ring? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 4 Report post Posted December 16, 2020 11 hours ago, Guest Orkvalp said: Hey, Im so trying to find out what is the best slot to craft Signet of Tormented Kings. Bracers or ring? Honestly it doesn't matter. Pure BiS has it in the wrist slot, but it's very important to realize that you don't have and probably never will have pure BiS, so it's kind of a crapshoot as to which will be (very slightly) better based on your current and future gearing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkArcher 0 Report post Posted December 17, 2020 In the Talent Section, the guide currently says this: Quote Sudden Death adds proc-based gameplay and is exceptional when paired with Condemn from the Venthyr covenant. The procs do not trigger Tactician, but they will generate Rage if the target survives. This is incorrect; the free Condemn procs do not generate Rage. I don't know if free Execute Procs do or not, but Condemn definitely does not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Archimtiros 4 Report post Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/17/2020 at 9:37 AM, SkArcher said: In the Talent Section, the guide currently says this: This is incorrect; the free Condemn procs do not generate Rage. I don't know if free Execute Procs do or not, but Condemn definitely does not. Will double check and update, thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Charrger Report post Posted December 28, 2020 Just a note that the BiS chart is updated but the paragraph above it still refers to Nyalotha. THANK YOU for the effort of keeping this resource available! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Arms4lyfe Report post Posted January 5 Hello, why are you recomending the use of sudden death when every top warrior in the game instead goes for Skullsplitter? Please explain. Thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites