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Shadowlands Mythic+ DPS Log Rankings and Analysis

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We've taken an extensive look at the Castle Nathria raid DPS logs, so we thought we might check in with Mythic+ as well, as Warcraft Logs has a section for them too! The M+ logs are a little more complicated due to the various dungeons and many, many bosses, but the overall DPS meters are still a solid indicator of which class is where in the grand scheme of things. We've also poked our resident M+ expert Petko to give us some insight into the numbers themselves.

With Mythic+ we don't have to worry about spec under-representation, as the numbers are very large, as even the least represented specs (Assassination and Survival) are over 10,000 entries, with the most popular specs having over 300,000 logs.

Let's start with all key levels in the 95th percentile:

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Data by Warcraft Logs.

And then move to all keys, all percentiles:

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Data by Warcraft Logs.

Then let's see what our expert has to say about the numbers:

Petko:

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As we expected, Fire mage is currently the DPS with the highest damage profile due to their uncapped AoE. Flamestrike Flamestrike in a combination with Flame Patch Flame Patch is extremely powerful in a large packs.

Some specs perform better when the pull sizes are bigger, such as Unholy Death Knight, Fire Mage, Marksmanship Hunter, Balance Druid and Shadow Priest. For dungeons where the pull sizes are small (such as Theater of Pain), specs like Enhancement Shaman could really shine.

This was mostly all mentioned and predicted in our official M+ tier list, with the exception of a few specs performing better than expected, such as Survival Hunter and Affliction Warlock.

To our surprise the Feral Druid ranking is much higherthan what we predicted. This is mainly due to their uncapped AoE, which is something we rarely see from a melee point of view. The much needed buffs it received also contributed to its overall placing, so we are happy
to see that Feral Druids are out there!

Another spec that surprised us is Frost Mage. Frost's performance during the late stages of Beta was dominant, and at one point, even one of the best DPS specs overall. Several nerfs to their main potency conduit Ice Bite Ice Bite caused a significant downfall for the spec. They do still provide great tank peeling, but overall their damage output is not enough to be placed anywhere higher.


Something to keep in mind, even if your spec is not on the top of the charts that does not mean you should avoid it, but rather to keep in mind what is determined "meta" as for now. We firmly believe that "bring the player not the class" is a moto everyone should strive to follow.

As weeks go by, we will follow the charts and continue evaluating which of the specs will get progressively better (or worse) once we start obtaining higher item levels of gear. We expect DoT classes to scale extremely well with secondary and primary stats so do keep a close eye on them.

In closing, we can take a look at some specific top-end keys, but unfortunately we can only filter them by the specific key selected, not a range (so we can't do 10-15 or 10+). Here are the stats for only M+10 keys, all percentiles:

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Data by Warcraft Logs.

And finally, let's take a look at the very small number of players that have done M+15!

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Data by Warcraft Logs.

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Skayan    52

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2 hours ago, ResoWho said:

shhhh dont tell them fire mage are doing good, otherwise we get nerfed to the ground before next ID reset like it was in BFA

BRO HAVE YOU SEEN SURVIVAL IN THE LAST IMAGE?

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Come On, Outlaw has too many button to push

bring it back to middle range, no one wants to see outlaw on top, not even we outlaws.

since BFA, 3 more active abilities has been added , please, at least make between the Eyes and kidney shot one button again. its really not playable in pvp, no time to think you just have to constantly push buttons....

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