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We have finally found some time to go back and update our tanking guide for Mists of Pandaria. This is an older article we wrote, the aim of which is not to teach players how to play their class, but rather to provide a starting point for those who wish to pick up tanking, or simply those who are looking for ways to improve their craft.

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    • By Lizard
      Hello there!
      It is my vision on build Yrel for quick matches and non-high (diamond/ml/gml) league.
      Wanna show it, because I disagree with guide, what is presented here. Guide https://www.icy-veins.com/heroes/yrel-build-guide maybe good, but it designed not for casual players.
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      My prefer talent build is: 2, 2, 3, 2, 1, 3, 4.
      Another form: Dauntless, Gift of the Naaru, Divine Steed, Sacred Ground, Aldor Peacekeeper, Holy Wrath, Seraphim.
      Also, if you have a good tank, and all what you team need is damage, or if we on bad map to us (see below) : 1, 3, 2, 1, 2, 3, 1/4.
      Another form: Light of Karabor, Hand of Freedom, Holy Avenger, Ardent Defender, Repentance, Holy Wrath, Word of Glory/Seraphim.
      Our playstyle: do a simple brusher work, before get level 4, or start ivent on map. After level 4, try be near our teammates, for get maximum profit from Gift of the Naaru, but without fanatism 😄. After level 7, you can soak exp from 2 lines with Divine Steed, try get more exp to team (again, without fanatism, on largest maps like warhead juction it will be dumb). When your team get ultimates, start playing more aggresively.
      Mid game: defend targets, defend teams, kill everything what moving (and what doesn't moving - move it and kill! 😄) with help some assassin in your team. Help to push and get camps. After level 16, when you pick Holy Wrath, you may get camp solo, and it will be fast (before 16 lvl, you also can do it, but it will too long - waste of time and mana).
      Late game: PUSH PUSH PUSH PUSH PUSH PUSH! You have all things to win. Just win teamfight (be prepared), get camps and go to core. Not in our plans play in deep late (but we can!), then just finish game.
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      Ardent Defender we can pick, when we have a good tank, who know what he need to do. Usually, you get it before level 10. It's best save ability in game, also 120 sec cd is not so long, but we do less profit to team then what we can do with Sacred Ground.
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      Our weaker maps: Tomb of the Spider Queen, Battlefield of Eternity, Blackheart's Bay (?).
      Our nightmare: Johanna, Garrosh, Malthael, Rexxar.
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      Thanks for reading!
      See you in Nexus!
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      Hi all.
      I recently went Guardian from Resto. Theoretically I know my rotation, cd, etc. I'm running Antorus HC, i got the curve and i think to hold with not many problems every boss but seeing my logs my performance is always low.

      I don't know where I make my mistakes but I think to have these issues:
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      I don't aim to shine, but, at least, be on a average rank :p
       
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