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23 hours ago, Guest Nokturn said:

Your guide lists Amalgam's Seventh Spine as being the best mana regen trinket, but sims show Darkmoon Deck: Promises as easily pulling ahead.

I did a spreadsheet showing the mana saved for both trinkets, and Promises definitely outclasses Amalgams purely for mana regened. However, this does not take into account the added intellect of Amalgams. As a general statement, if you can get a higher item level Amalgams from BRH, it will be better than Promises. 

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I am really confused as to why Purge the Wicked is showing as the best talent to have, when it is such a temperamental talent to use.  I still cannot get it to spread to more than 1 extra target, and in dungeon situations, when you want it to spread, the targets die too quickly anyway.

Does anyone have any data on why PtW is better than Divine Star, especially while the penance spread is broken?

 

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On 6/24/2017 at 4:00 AM, Bubblez said:

I am really confused as to why Purge the Wicked is showing as the best talent to have, when it is such a temperamental talent to use.  I still cannot get it to spread to more than 1 extra target, and in dungeon situations, when you want it to spread, the targets die too quickly anyway.

Does anyone have any data on why PtW is better than Divine Star, especially while the penance spread is broken?

 

For raids, PtW even on one target is better in terms of damage (thus healing) than Halo. Unless you're in a bursty single target situation, Halo may win out.

For dungeons, you could take Halo if you're comfortable with it, but PtW is still likely better in terms of raw damage / healing over the course of the run. It's really up to you for M+ and how you feel healing during certain affixes. Sometimes Halo could be an ideal candidate here.

Divine Star doesn't do enough healing or damage to beat out either. Also, having to aim it and taking up a GCD more frequently makes it less than ideal.

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On 7/21/2016 at 10:19 PM, Guest AnActualGoodDisc said:

Ugh.  There is so much wrong with this guide.

First: Never take Schism.  It's not about skill or ability, it's about maintaining atonement.  Schism is a trap.  It looks pretty on paper, but with a 6 second cooldown, it forces you to recast it every. six. seconds.  This almost never lines up with Penance or Solace, and if you're casting Radiance for multiple atonements, you have to time Schism perfectly.  Too perfectly.  Meaning your uptime on BOTH Schism and Atonement are going to suffer.

Second: Speaking of Solace.  Don't.  Take Mindbender.  Coupled with Power Infusion, and assuming you're good at keeping your atonements up, this combo will net you some serious healing during aoe-intense fights.

Third:  Plea is not a heal.  Yes, it "heals" but so did Glyph of Power Word: Shield, and that was an absolute no-no for disc priests.  Plea is an atonement applicator.  That's it.  The math on it is correct in this guide, but it should NEVER be used as a heal when someone is taking serious damage.  Shadow Mend IS YOUR HEAL.  Period.

Fourth:  Mastery is NOT our stat now.   Haste is our primary stat after intellect.  Unless you don't plan to ever use Radiance, but if you aren't, then you should be playing holy.  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NbsDtJLVZqNc87jFzt-6WlPL02JOYmwppS1INtjVQTw/pub This is the guide you should be following.  It has a few errors, but it mostly hits the mark, especially for new players or new disc priests.  

Icy-veins, honestly, you haven't hit disc on the head ever.   You're always way off the mark and your advice goes from cringe-worthy at best to just plain wrong.  I don't expect this comment to be approved by a moderator, and that's okay.  It's mostly for the people who write this stuff.  

Thanks and have a great day

-Someone who knows what they're doing

how is a guide from nearly 2 patches ago good for whats current?... Iff youre linking an old guide.. Then i dont think you know what you are doing cause the information is old

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7 hours ago, Guest Bananfobanatotanhana said:

how is a guide from nearly 2 patches ago good for whats current?... Iff youre linking an old guide.. Then i dont think you know what you are doing cause the information is old

You do realize that the post you quoted was from over a year ago, right? Of course it's out of date now.

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On 6/26/2017 at 8:03 PM, Guest Bananfobanatotanhana said:

how is a guide from nearly 2 patches ago good for whats current?... Iff youre linking an old guide.. Then i dont think you know what you are doing cause the information is old

As Silver says, the first posts in the thread are from when Legion "started", so when the guides first started getting released for the new setups and builds. This means we have plenty of comments from last year around June/July. 

Thanks anyway for coming to contribute/comment! :)

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On 4/18/2017 at 8:50 AM, Blainie said:

Definitely a possibility! When it appears, you'll have to give yourself a pat on the back :D

Nailed it :) current disc should be very strong and maybe will be the surprise healer of the tournament, vs the usual cookie cutter druid.

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On 12/07/2017 at 9:57 AM, Seksi said:

Nailed it :) current disc should be very strong and maybe will be the surprise healer of the tournament, vs the usual cookie cutter druid.

Blast from the past! That was a pretty great guess :p

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We are currently in the process of updating all guides as required for the 7.3 release. Please be patient as we make the necessary changes. You can keep an eye on the changelog to know if the guide has been updated or not. 

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This guide has now been updated for the 7.3 patch. If you have any questions or comments, you can always ask them here. If you find any errors in the new changes to the guide, let me know and I'll get the writers to update it ASAP.

Good luck in the Shadows of Argus!

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Recently I got two legendaries that are making me pause to think about what to use. Previously I have been using [Pyrdaz], with the best enchant and 200 Int gem, and [Soul of the High Priest] with 200 haste enchant and 200 haste gem. But I just got Velen's and Skjoldr, Sanctuary of Ivagont.  I am now conflicted on what ones I should use for raids and dungeons. I know that Skjoldr is probably the weakest of the 4, but the comments on it in the guide said it was good for dungeons. Which two should I use in raids, and which should I use in keystones? 

If needed to be known by 'replacements' for each slot are: 

Neck: Item level 930
2,422 Stam
1,911 Vers
1,609 Mastery

Bracers: Item level 955
2,038 Int
3,057 Stam
366 Crit
375 Mastery

Ring: Item level 950
2,917 Stam
2,497 Vers
1,476 Mastery

For trinkets I have 3 different ones I use depending on whether I'm doing dungeons or raids. 

For dungeons:
A 960 http://www.wowhead.com/item=133645/naglfar-fare&bonus=1612:1727

A Heroic 925 http://www.wowhead.com/item=147007/the-deceivers-grand-design&bonus=3562:1507

For raids I use: 

Naglfar again

A 955 http://www.wowhead.com/item=151340/echo-of-lura&bonus=1607:1727

 

 

I'm thinking Prydaz and Velens for raids, (Using Naglfar as remaining trink.) 

And for dungeons Prydaz and Skjoldr... Or maybe Pyrdaz and Soul of the High Priest. With Naglfar and Deceiver for trinkets.

Edit: I also have the Antorus 2 set bonus, but that won't be interfered with any of these.

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On 13/02/2018 at 11:21 PM, Spinnermask said:

I'm thinking Prydaz and Velens for raids, (Using Naglfar as remaining trink.) 

And for dungeons Prydaz and Skjoldr... Or maybe Pyrdaz and Soul of the High Priest. With Naglfar and Deceiver for trinkets.

I'd definitely take Pryd + Velen for raids, yeah. There's not much to change there at all.

For M+, it depends on the key. Skjoldr can be solid if your tank constantly requires an external to stay alive (very high keys on any burst affix), but you'll often just use Pain Sup needlessly or hold onto it, devaluing the legendary somewhat. I'd heavily recommend stick with Velen's, Prydaz and High Priest. All 3 are great in M+ and you can use whichever combination you prefer. 

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This guide will be updated for the release of the pre-patch of Battle for Azeroth in the next few days. We are aiming to have every guide deployed prior to the patch going live.

Please note that a new feedback thread will be created for the new guide, meaning that this one will be archived. Any feedback you have for the new guide should be placed in the new comment thread.

Thank you all for your patience and we are working to get the new guides up as soon as possible.

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