Ulathar

Frost DK Build Questions:

Sign in to follow this  

8 posts in this topic

Hey folks,

I play frost since TBC and since i got my hands on my 3rd legendary and 2 part t19 bonus i struggle with my current build. Maybe you can enlight me :). Here we go:

I am at an avg gs of 888 with the following stats (unbuffed):

30% crit
20% haste
31% mastery
3% versatility

I have the Bracers, cape and belt legendarys at my proposal, currently running with bracers + belt.

I used to play the "normal" OBRA Build (Icy talons, Frozen Pulse, Runic Attenuation and Glacial Advance)  and did quite well. Since i got my 2 part t19 bonus i am somewhat ressource overcapped and/or GCD limited. Thats why i started tinkering around with my talents.
Currently i play around with:

Murderous Efficiency
Gathering Storm
Freezing Fog

Instead of the "normal" OBRA build. I am still not sure if this build yields better dps or not for me. Depending on proc luck i am still overcapped with ressources some times as well as ressource starved at other times cuz of the missing Runic Attenuation talent.

 

What do you guys think? I tried the BoS build as well but i absolutely HATE its "playstyle". can't get used to that 2 min cooldown. Most of the time I use it in a raid i get some nasty debuff and have to run -> dropping BoS xD. In mythic+ i don't like it as well because it falls off after one pack and takes 2-3 packs until its ready again...

 

And the last question:

would you prefere a 880 Chest + 880 trinket (that egg thing with the poor haste proc) over Nightbane Chest at 875 alongside with the eye of command at 860?

Edited by Ulathar

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Currently the best build is BoS, which you would be ideal for with ring and belt. While I understand the playstyle isn't ideal the other builds really just aren't very practical right now because of the reasons you mentioned. If you really wanna just stay without BoS i would just suggest Icy, frozen, runic, and GA or Obliteration.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been hugging onto my favourite talons + pulse + avalanche + attenuation + glacial advance build as long as I could, but unfortunately I have squeezed all I can out of that spec and it's no longer enough, so I've had to switch over to BoS. As Drtain says it is the best build. 

I mean I it depends on the level of content you are aiming for, too. Previously mentioned build worked just fine when we smashed normal NH but as we approach mythic it is clear it won't cut it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi,

 

I am curious on how the posters build works compared to standard OB/RA build? I am way lesser geared and mostly focused on Mythic+ dungeons so would ME/FF/GS work well for this content? I do understand BoS is the best build currently but I have alot of trouble trying to play it and would just like to find the next best alternative to the content I play. Thanks in advance for any guidance and help :)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I played FScy a lot in M+ but noticed that the 0815 OBRA build is pretty even to it and pulls ahead the better your gear gets and the higher the mythic+ level is.

While having a little bit more burst on trash packs the FScy build looses a lot (!!!) on the bosses and the higher you get in m+ the longer the bosses will live.

Especially when you get your hands on T19 2 Part bonus i  see no reasons to ever use FScy again. Howlign Blast hits like a truck with Rime and Rime procs almost always with T19 bonus.

Concerning BoS - like i said - i hate it. I simply hate it. But i have to agree with the previous posters, that it curently sims "the best" with t19 gear. I am trying around with it now but .... i reapeat .... i HATE it xD.

 

Edited by Ulathar

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@JustDK @Ulathar

See my other thread on non-BoS builds, I currently run a hybrid (HB and GS focus) build for M+.

Armory link in signature.

It's heavily built around the Legendary helm for it's viability as if you have either of the legendaries that synergize with BoS that fact ultimately decides your path, unfortunately.

If like me you prefer the lining up of RW and PoF with Icecap it's also good for consistent AoE stuns.

With Tier19 boosting Rime so much, this build gains a lot, it's only when Rime starts generating RP at 4 x T19 that it becomes really powerful for BoS builds.

The increased proc with 2 x is actually harmful (HB crits make up for it though) to BoS because of the GCDs eaten by Rime that don't produce RP whereas for the hybrid GS/RW build you'll be close to capping RP much of the time even without T19 x 4.

Additionally, you definitely want to make sure you have softcapped your crit/haste and keep building them up where possible because the value of both remains high, especially when you can chain 10x stacks Gathering Storm on your application of RW.

I'm not even over 885 and my HB can crit for 1.9 mil. Tier 19 x 2 will be just fantastic when I can get to it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Dont have that helmet, as soon as i get it i will definitly try around with it hoping to drop BoS again :).

Which legendary would you use as second for your build? Bracers?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Similar Content

    • By Buksh
      Hi all,
      Im not sure where to post this but im hoping someone can help or at least point me in the right direction.
      TL;DR - My DPS is awful and i want to increase it
      I played fire & frost spec back in cata upto 85 and have recently got back into WoW again and finally realised what people talk about when they play "end game" i wish id known about raiding sooner!
      However, My DPS isnt great at all im eq 959 ilvl but my DPS comes out as low as 8-900 sometimes or i can hold a steady 1.1-1.2M. Simc comes out around 1.7M (obviously in a perfect world) but i still feel im doing something wrong.
      Ive watched videos, read forums and im sure my rotation is right. Im using Flask, Food and Runes and Pre-potting. I have some logs here of garothi.
      https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XRqCaL6jFVpW9MnG#fight=5&type=summary&source=23&view=events
      and this is my Raider.io - https://raider.io/characters/eu/twisting-nether/Buksh
      Not sure if ive posted this in the right place OR if ive given enough info to help. but anything would be hugely appreciated.
    • By Lager159
      Hi everyone. I just killed HC Varimathras and I was surprised by my low damage. There was not second time warp because we used the first one at 20% HP but I think I should get higher numbers. Can anyone tell me what did I do wrong? Was it really only in TW? I do not think so :/.
       
      https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XPYn1WJHRF7G4KMv#fight=6&type=damage-done
       
      https://wowanalyzer.com/report/XPYn1WJHRF7G4KMv/6/15
       
    • By ygzumc
      Hi. After reaching %33.3 Crit cap. What's your opinion stacking versa or haste.i go with versatility right now have %23.63/%11.82 versatility %16.71 haste %37 crit.i know i have little bit more crit but its good stat
    • By Casdon
      [US] Stormreaver — Skunkworks
      Tuesdays & Thursdays: 7:00 P.M. to 11:00 P.M. (pst) || 9-1 (cst) || 10-2 (est)
       
      Progression
      10/11M Antorus
      9/9M ToS
      10/10M Nighthold
      3/3M Trial of Valor
      7/7M Emerald Nightmare
       
      Website
      skunkworksguild.com
       
      About Us
      Skunkworks is a guild for players who can not or do not want to commit to the time-intensive raid schedules of traditional "hardcore" guilds.
      However, we still maintain a high caliber player environment and make an efficient use of our raiding time.
      We raid Tuesdays and Thursdays from 7:00 - 11:00 PST, just 8 hours a week and never more.
       
      We are very protective of our guild environment and selective in recruitment. We are looking for solid players mechanically as well as intellectually.
      We all get paid to deal with idiots, why should we pay to spend our leisure time with them as well?
       
      Skunkworks has been around for multiple expansions and has historically always been at the top of the 2-night raiding guild scene.
       
      Past Raiding Achievements
       
      #US 199 Mythic KJ #US 186 Mythic Archimonde #131 US Heroic Garrosh #68 US Heroic Ra-den #77 US Heroic Lei Shen #86 US Heroic Sha of Fear #106 US Heroic Madness of Deathwing #99 US Heroic Ragnaros #147 US Sinestra #91 US Heroic The Twilight Destroyer (Halion) #71 US Heroic Fall of the Lich King #247 US Tribute to Insanity #160 US Alone in the Darkness Current Guild Needs
      Amazing Range DPS ---Exceptional Candidates always considered regardless of recruiting needs.
       
      How to Apply
      Apply with Google Forms
      https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeL-LW1-7rRK28Z3Nswg4xD3-jjQWrIsCh77rYOdxKwY0oPPQ/viewform.
      All applications are kept private.
      Please include at least the following.
          Prominent links to relevant armory pages ]A guild history with reasons for departure
          The reason(s) you have chosen to apply to this guild
          Warcraft Logs
          UI screenshots or fraps/Stream footage
       
      Contact Information
      Shadaka (GM)
      Real ID:Shadak#1881
       
      Aerivore (Recruitment Officers)
      Real ID:  Aerivore#1581
       
      Sovm
      Real ID: Sov#1192
    • By Fettucini
      Hello,
      I seem to do very little damage on my opener and then following it up later.
      Here are my logs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9gqQaXwfmFGzH6Dy#fight=25&type=summary
      My armory https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/ravencrest/fettucini 
      I'm curious whether this is just bad playing or a lack of gear.