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Game Director Ion Hazzikostas said in the latest Live Developer Q&A that unlocking Legion Allied Races will be faster in Tides of Vengeance.

If you played in Legion, you've probably unlocked all Allied Races by now, but we've got some good news for players who haven't! In the next content update, the amount of reputation from Legion world quests will be doubled, allowing you to reach Exalted rep standing with Legion factions faster.

The change affects four Allied Races introduced in Legion: Highmountain Tauren, Lightforged Draenei, Nightborne, and Void Elves.

Allied Race Requirements
Highmountain Tauren Ain't No Mountain High EnoughAin't No Mountain High Enough + Exalted with Highmountain Tribe 
Lightforged Draenei You Are Now Prepared!You Are Now Prepared! + Exalted with Army of the Light
Nightborne InsurrectionInsurrection + Exalted with the Nightfallen
Void Elf You Are Now Prepared!You Are Now Prepared! + Exalted with Argussian Reach

Check out our Patch 8.1 hub for more details about Tides of Vengeance!

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Although I like this gesture towards new and returning players, a lot of older expansions are still considered tough luck when you didn't play during that time. Try getting exalted with the Black Prince (1 boss mob per week for 500 rep) or try to get exalted with Sha'tari Defense (1-5 rep per mob).

I can understand why new players can't enter Ordon Sanctuary, it was part of the legendary cloak quest. Yet why do people who played a long time ago an expansion should have an exclusive zone? Where's my Vanilla only Naxxramas 40? 

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50 minutes ago, Keller said:

Where's my Vanilla only Naxxramas 40? 

I don't recall Naxxramas being required to unlock an Allied race.

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49 minutes ago, Keller said:

Although I like this gesture towards new and returning players, a lot of older expansions are still considered tough luck when you didn't play during that time. Try getting exalted with the Black Prince (1 boss mob per week for 500 rep) or try to get exalted with Sha'tari Defense (1-5 rep per mob).

I can understand why new players can't enter Ordon Sanctuary, it was part of the legendary cloak quest. Yet why do people who played a long time ago an expansion should have an exclusive zone? Where's my Vanilla only Naxxramas 40? 

The big difference is that these are complete playable races. Never before has a race been locked behind a rep so ya, it makes sense that they're making it easier on new/returning players. There's literally nothing bad about making these easier, and just because "other expansions had exclusive/harder things to get later, doesn't mean everything should be

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6 minutes ago, Aegrotat said:

The big difference is that these are complete playable races. Never before has a race been locked behind a rep so ya, it makes sense that they're making it easier on new/returning players. There's literally nothing bad about making these easier, and just because "other expansions had exclusive/harder things to get later, doesn't mean everything should be

Yet you can unlock it by playing the game. I don't mind it goes quicker. I cheer for that change. I'm simply wondering why older reputation from older expansions won't receive the same loving. Doing the questlines get you pretty easy rep. WQ are not bad to do. Plus the Class Hall missions give afk rep aswell. Why do we need to kill 15000 mobs for 1-5 rep (Sha'tari) or 1.5 years killing one mob on the Timeless Isle. What about crafting bag recipes from the Fireland Dailies, 4 weeks of the same dailies get boring pretty fast.

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2 hours ago, Keller said:

Yet you can unlock it by playing the game. I don't mind it goes quicker. I cheer for that change. I'm simply wondering why older reputation from older expansions won't receive the same loving. Doing the questlines get you pretty easy rep. WQ are not bad to do. Plus the Class Hall missions give afk rep aswell. Why do we need to kill 15000 mobs for 1-5 rep (Sha'tari) or 1.5 years killing one mob on the Timeless Isle. What about crafting bag recipes from the Fireland Dailies, 4 weeks of the same dailies get boring pretty fast.

like I said, because old reps don't have anything on the level of a race. People came back SPECIFICALLY for the races in some cases.

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3 hours ago, Keller said:

Yet you can unlock it by playing the game. I don't mind it goes quicker. I cheer for that change. I'm simply wondering why older reputation from older expansions won't receive the same loving. Doing the questlines get you pretty easy rep. WQ are not bad to do. Plus the Class Hall missions give afk rep aswell. Why do we need to kill 15000 mobs for 1-5 rep (Sha'tari) or 1.5 years killing one mob on the Timeless Isle. What about crafting bag recipes from the Fireland Dailies, 4 weeks of the same dailies get boring pretty fast.

Ogri'la could use some sort of increased rep bonus, there isn't even a commendation from timewalking like there is for nearly every other rep in BC.

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1 hour ago, Aegrotat said:

like I said, because old reps don't have anything on the level of a race. People came back SPECIFICALLY for the races in some cases.

Like I said, I like what they did with boosting the rep from Legion WQ. If Blizzard find it so important that returning players can get access to Allied Races, unlock it for them at dinging 120. They should have adressed all factions and rep gain, not just a few that can make them a little more money. For example the Sha'tari Defense rep gains got lowered due to the scaling from 7.3.5. Takes them a pretty long time to correct that. 

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1 hour ago, Keller said:

Like I said, I like what they did with boosting the rep from Legion WQ. If Blizzard find it so important that returning players can get access to Allied Races, unlock it for them at dinging 120. They should have adressed all factions and rep gain, not just a few that can make them a little more money. For example the Sha'tari Defense rep gains got lowered due to the scaling from 7.3.5. Takes them a pretty long time to correct that. 

 

Yeah, the scaling rep gain from some old mobs is actually really annoying.

See, most Sha'tari defense mobs these days barely give anything, but Laughing Skull mobs are arguably worse, they started out giving lower rep per kill and once you hit 120 you just get nothing except maybe a pittance from the named mobs. I was grinding Laughing Skull on a 112 in the Pit and it was 1 rep per Laborer, 3-4 per soldier type and 50 per named and my 120 troll hunter just gets nothing. Everbloom is worse because anything that's not a named only gives 1 rep to my 112.

Additionally, the Sha'tari defense plate transmog had its rep requirement removed, I can mog it on any alliance plate character, and trust me, I did not grind that on more than my main.

Meanwhile, Laughing Skull mask transmogs are still reputation gated (as is most equipment from faction quartermasters of course, it's standard), so if you're some kind of fool who levels characters to the cap before grinding tedious things, you can lock out your nice new Mag'har from having a thematically appropriate Laughing Skull mask except by buying Medallions of the Legion from the AH. Kinda of annoying since you can make Mag'har look like laughing skulls in terms of skin color and weird scarification.

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12 hours ago, Psykmoe said:

Meanwhile, Laughing Skull mask transmogs are still reputation gated (as is most equipment from faction quartermasters of course, it's standard), so if you're some kind of fool who levels characters to the cap before grinding tedious things, you can lock out your nice new Mag'har from having a thematically appropriate Laughing Skull mask except by buying Medallions of the Legion from the AH. Kinda of annoying since you can make Mag'har look like laughing skulls in terms of skin color and weird scarification.

As a reminder hings like this are going away in 8.1. Transmogs will no longer be rep gated

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On 10/11/2018 at 5:30 PM, Keller said:

Although I like this gesture towards new and returning players, a lot of older expansions are still considered tough luck when you didn't play during that time. Try getting exalted with the Black Prince (1 boss mob per week for 500 rep) or try to get exalted with Sha'tari Defense (1-5 rep per mob).

I can understand why new players can't enter Ordon Sanctuary, it was part of the legendary cloak quest. Yet why do people who played a long time ago an expansion should have an exclusive zone? Where's my Vanilla only Naxxramas 40? 

Just stop talking.

Reputations from all past expansions can be increased by doing Timewalking events, the items are BoA so you can stack up a ton if points through cross-alt and cross-faction play if need be.

Not only is that a solution to your complaint, it has been implimented a long time ago AND NOT ONLY THAT it has nothing to do with the fact that new allied races are CURRENT content, that is why rep gains was implimented.

use your head.

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22 hours ago, Aegrotat said:

like I said, because old reps don't have anything on the level of a race. People came back SPECIFICALLY for the races in some cases.

Indeed.And they DEMANDED to remove the requirements because " we deserve it and dont have time to farm reputation".

Surely a customer group you should care about.

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2 hours ago, ChuRa said:

Just stop talking.

Reputations from all past expansions can be increased by doing Timewalking events, the items are BoA so you can stack up a ton if points through cross-alt and cross-faction play if need be.

Not only is that a solution to your complaint, it has been implimented a long time ago AND NOT ONLY THAT it has nothing to do with the fact that new allied races are CURRENT content, that is why rep gains was implimented.

use your head.

Where's the Black Prince timewalking token? Where's the Sha'tari Defense timewalking token? The Sporeli'gar timewalking token? 

Sure I can buy Legion tokens for 95k per 1k rep off the auction house or try to zone hop and maybe get a lucky drop myself. 

do some research. Certain factions were overlooked. Timewalking is an easy fix for factions that already can be maxed out fairly easily. Don't believe many people have used timewalking tokens, I haven;t. (can't be bothered for the right timewalking event to pop up anyway) They have revamped all zones for the scaling that came with 7.3.5. Allied Races were planned for a long time. They didn't bother to look into it and allocate some time and manpower to it.

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This is great for new/returning players and fine by me.  I do agree they need to do something about rep grinds where mob level results in 0 rep per kill.  In Cata/WotLK dungeons you can still farm rep at a decent rate by running Heroic at any level because there's a minimum rep/mob.  They need to do the same for mobs that are only in open world, like Sha'tari and Laughing Skull.  Otherwise you would have to level-lock a toon to do the grinds and that makes zero sense.

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