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So I have inv_helmet_plate_raiddeathknight_n_01.jpMagdalena's Murderous Crown 2/2 which I think we all know is not great itemization for 2H Frost spec. But I just got my inv_helmet_24.jpgHelm of the Cursed Vanquisher, and it would make my 4P bonus. That's a dramatic drop in item level and stats for a 4P that I'm not entirely sure is worth it. Any thoughts or advice from more experienced raiders? Just trying to find the most DPS output I can so I can pug a Siege and not be a crutch.

 

I also have the same inv_helmet_plate_raiddeathknight_n_01.jpMagdalena's Murderous Crown 2/2 with the tanking legendary meta, etc. Its only my third tier piece available for Blood, but I figured I'd throw it all in one post. Is it worth swapping out the item level and stamina for the 4P to have all the death runes every few minutes?

 

My armory (just in case it's any help).

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I'm not 100% to be honest i can't say numbers or anything but i believe you would get a slight boost from getting 4 set once helm is double upgraded granted it's slight nothing huge but if you were to go Dw i believe the upgrade would be very worth it but your 2h so idk tbh i'd go with it cause it is a pretty decent 4p but like i said i'm not 100% sure an ddon't have numbers to back it up.

 

Also if your dps is a bit low or w.e assume it to be your trinkets til u get better trinkets like evil eye and TTT or atleast evil eye over fire core 

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I don't have a lot of logs dps'ing because I've mostly been raiding fairly casually for the last month or so, but from logs that I can find Frozen Power (the 4pc bonus) accounts for about 4-5k dps. that's with roughly 40% uptime on Pillar of Frost. If your uptime is better or worse than that then you may get slightly higher or lower overall dps from the 4pc bonus.

 

with both double upgraded the difference stat wise would be

-595 Strength

-893 Stam

-304 Haste

-508 Mastery

 

Using Mendenbarr's stat weights for 2H frost. that would be:

6.46dps per str = 3843.7 dps

3.39 per haste = 1030.56 dps

3.65 per mastery = 1854.2 dps

 

Total = 6728.46 dps loss from stats.

 

So best case scenario the 4 piece could be better in some situtations, but I'm assuming you probably don't have a heroic eye of Galakras to get your pillar of frost uptime higher, so You're actually probably slightly better off staying with the warforged helm.

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The lord storm has spoken. I actually thought about him not having even normal mode eye and his pillar being a much lower uptime never posted anythign about it but I thought of it. So yeah 4p probably a dps less I suppose

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