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This thread is for comments about our Arena Shaman Spreadsheet for GvG.

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Guest P4TCHburguer

From a player that goes 2-2 so far on his second run; how comes Illuminator is that up in the list? Its stats look terrible to me

 

Being new to this game, play arena to get some taste for epics and legendaries, got absolutely none lol

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2/4 for a 3 drop is actually pretty good, because of the way it interacts with other cards.

 

Say your opponent plays their turn 2, the most common type of 2-drop in arena is a 3/2. The game then passes back to you on your turn 3, and you play a 2/4. Your 2/4 trades with their 3/2 and stays alive, which starts to build an advantage for you. More commonly shaped 3 drops like 3/3 and 4/3 will just trade evenly with the opponents 2 drop, which is a disadvantage for you.

Short version, 4 health is a really good number.

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Guest Garrynych

Yeah, so what about the interaction with a 2/3 2-drop which is also very common and can be situationally better than 3/2 (pump creatures, class abilities, t1 2/1)? Trades evenly.

3/3 can also trade up; 2/4 will never do it.

Basically, if you're saying that 3/2 is better than 2/3, that same argument should apply to 3/3 vs 2/4.

 

If you said "2/4 for a 3 drop is actually not THAT bad", I could agree.

But it's the comparison that matters here.

Why is it that Blackwing Technichian is tier6 (where it belongs IMO)? Are you suggesting that an average rare is worse than an average common (so vanilla 2/4 is above average rare while 2/4 with upside is below average common)?

I have a better idea: 3-drop 2/4 should always be below average (with or without minor upside).

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You're actually right, turns out in the 2+ months since I made that last post, my opinions on 2/4s have changed, mainly because of what you pointed out (more people picking 2/3s). Blackwing Tech was inserted with that new evaluation in mind, but Illuminator hadn't been moved, thanks for catching it.

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Guest Elektron124

Hello, I just tried to find Vitality Totem and Thunder Bluff, but they were both missing. Just a heads up.

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An easy way to find cards is to first press ctrl + f, and then type in the card that you want. For example, if you want to find faceless manipulator, then start typing in faceless, and it will be highlighted. Of course, you need to be under the right tab (common, rare, epic, and legendary), and I'm not sure if it works on Mac (I'm on a Windows computer). 

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Guest Hunter

Everyfin is Awesome is grouped as above average but the description for Arena says it's a very poor card?

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On 11/6/2016 at 7:49 PM, Guest Hunter said:

Everyfin is Awesome is grouped as above average but the description for Arena says it's a very poor card?

Will put in a note, thanks.

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Guest Starrceline

I'm surprised that Volcano is rated higher than Volcanosaur. The descriptions seem to indicate otherwise, saying "Volcanosaur is an excellent card in Arena," and "In Arena, Volcano is a below average card." I'm not sure which is really better but I'm leaning towards Volcano. It's nice to have an adaptable minion that can respond to the board, but Volcano can save me when I'm losing because it can wipe out a huge minion on the other side, especially if I attack my own minions into the large minion before using it. But then again, if I have no minions in hand to recover board presence after playing it, it seems dangerous. So it could just sit in my hand whereas I'd never have to wait to play Volcanosaur.

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1 hour ago, Guest Starrceline said:

I'm surprised that Volcano is rated higher than Volcanosaur. The descriptions seem to indicate otherwise, saying "Volcanosaur is an excellent card in Arena," and "In Arena, Volcano is a below average card." I'm not sure which is really better but I'm leaning towards Volcano. It's nice to have an adaptable minion that can respond to the board, but Volcano can save me when I'm losing because it can wipe out a huge minion on the other side, especially if I attack my own minions into the large minion before using it. But then again, if I have no minions in hand to recover board presence after playing it, it seems dangerous. So it could just sit in my hand whereas I'd never have to wait to play Volcanosaur.

I'd decide based on the cards I already have in my deck. If it was the first pick, I would probably go for Volcanosaur.
Thank you for pointing it out, we'll be fixing it shortly!

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