Mists of Pandaria Classic Subtlety Rogue Rotation and Cooldowns

Last updated on Jun 16, 2025 at 12:00 by Sellin

On this page, you will learn how to optimize the rotation of your Subtlety Rogue in both single-target and multi-target PvE situations in Mists of Pandaria Classic. We also have advanced sections about cooldowns, procs, etc. in order to minmax your DPS.

1.

Subtlety Rogue Rotations

If you have not already, we recommend reading the Spells Summary page first. Knowing how each spell and ability works in detail will greatly increase your understanding of the topics discussed on this page.

As a Subtlety Rogue in Mists of Pandaria your primary goal is to maximize your up time of Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness. This is done by casting one of your Stealth Icon Stealth abilities like Ambush Icon Ambush. Keep in mind abilities like Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Vanish Icon Vanish will greatly increase the availability of abilities that can proc your Find Weakness buff so understanding how to optimally utilize each of them is the key to dealing maximum damage.

1.1.

Poisons

Your poison usage as an Subtlety Rogue is quite simple, we will always use Deadly Poison Icon Deadly Poison as our lethal poison. For our non-lethal poisons you have a few choices to make Leeching Poison Icon Leeching Poison will cause a small amount of self-healing and will often be the best choice but also consider Mind-numbing Poison Icon Mind-numbing Poison to slow casting speeds on your target and Crippling Poison Icon Crippling Poison to slow the targets move speed.

2.

Single-Target Rotation

As a Subtlety Rogue your focus is to maximize your time under the effects of the Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness buff that causes you to ignore 100% of your targets armor, greatly increasing the damage dealt by all of our Physical damaging abilities which is nearly your entire damage profile. This can be achieved by casting an ability like Ambush Icon Ambush that can only be used in Stealth Icon Stealth or when Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is active so it is important to maximize the usefulness of each Shadow Dance and Vanish Icon Vanish cast to guarantee the highest possible up time on Find Weakness. We will also focus on maintaining Rupture Icon Rupture and Hemorrhage Icon Hemorrhage on your target in order to benefit from Sanguinary Vein Icon Sanguinary Vein and as always keeping Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice for those extra auto-attacks and the increased Energy generation from Energetic Recovery Icon Energetic Recovery. Highlighted below is a list of priorities to maximize your DPS as a Subtlety Rogue.

  1. Keep Deadly Poison Icon Deadly Poison active;
  2. Make sure to prepot using Virmen's Bite Icon Virmen's Bite;
  3. When exiting from Stealth Icon Stealth open with Ambush Icon Ambush;
  4. Cast Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance on cooldown when you are at or near 80 Energy and Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice, Hemorrhage Icon Hemorrhage, and Rupture Icon Rupture are active and will remain active for the duration of Shadow Dance;
  5. Keep Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice active at all times;
  6. Keep Rupture Icon Rupture active on the target;
  7. Keep Hemorrhage Icon Hemorrhage active on the target;
  8. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate to spend Combo Points if Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice and Rupture Icon Rupture are already active;
  9. Cast Ambush Icon Ambush if Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is active to generate Combo Points and do not forget to Premeditation Icon Premeditation each time you cast Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance for essentially free Combo Points;
  10. Cast Backstab Icon Backstab if Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is not active to generate Combo Points.
3.

AoE Rotation

Your AoE rotation as a Subtlety Rogue will largely depend on how many enemies you are fighting and how long you expect them to survive. If you are fighting against 2-3 enemies continue your single target rotation as normal but make sure to apply Rupture Icon Rupture to the other targets to benefit from Sanguinary Vein Icon Sanguinary Vein.

3.1.

Against Four or more targets

When fighting 4 or more enemies we will start using Fan of Knives Icon Fan of Knives to generate Combo Points and can largely ignore the single target rotation above as our goal is now to keep Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice active and get Crimson Tempest Icon Crimson Tempest active on as many targets as we can. It is worthwhile to use a 1 Combo Points Crimson Tempest at the start of your AoE to get Sanguinary Vein Icon Sanguinary Vein applied to all of the targets, but after that Crimson Tempest is ideally cast with 5 Combo Points assuming Slice and Dice is already active.

  1. Keep Deadly Poison Icon Deadly Poison active;
  2. Keep Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice active;
  3. Keep Crimson Tempest Icon Crimson Tempest active on as many targets as possible;
  4. Use Fan of Knives Icon Fan of Knives to generate Combo Points
4.

Cooldowns

SubtletySubtlety Rogue deals a lot of its damage during cool down windows so knowing how to properly utilize each of them will have a considerable impact on your damage dealt.

Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is your single largest damage increase as a Subtlety Rogue. Shadow Dance allows you to use abilities that otherwise require Stealth Icon Stealth for 8 seconds and reduces the Energy cost of your Ambush Icon Ambush ability by 20 while active. Shadow Dance is best typically best used with your combat potion so if possible pair it with your Virmen's Bite Icon Virmen's Bite, the goal of your Shadow Dance is to get as many Ambush Icon Ambush casts as possible to maximize your Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness up time so consider waiting until you are at 80 Energy or higher before using this cooldown.

Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades causes your auto-attacks to deal Shadow damage and causes your Combo Point generating abilities to generate an additional Combo Point. This cooldown is best utilized while under the effects of Bloodlust Icon Bloodlust/Heroism Icon Heroism in order to maximize the amount of auto-attacks.

Vanish Icon Vanish causes you to instantly return to Stealth Icon Stealth allowing for the use of Stealth abilities like Ambush Icon Ambush. Vanish a massive part of your toolkit as a Subtlety Rogue due to the importance of Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness. Use your Vanish off cooldown to maximize your Find Weakness up time but make sure not to overlap this with Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance. Preparation Icon Preparation can also be used to instantly reset the cool down of your Vanish for even more Find Weakness up time. If you are running Shadow Focus Icon Shadow Focus this will also greatly reduce the Energy cost of your Ambush allowing us to generate even more cheap Combo Points.

Smoke Bomb Icon Smoke Bomb obscures anyone inside of it from outside targets and reduces damage taken by 20% while inside of the Smoke Bomb. This ability has many unique interactions with various mechanics in dungeons and raids so make sure to coordinate with your group when this is best utilized.

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Changelog

  • 03 Jun. 2025: Guide created.
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