5.4 Destruction Tips and Quirks

[Kazistrasz 216]

If we're celebrating our achievements, tonight was my rank on a boss that isn't Norushen (23rd on Immerseus for Destro). With no weapon or 4-pc, I'm very proud of myself. :D /patback

[Lezzr 0]

Regarding Opener I d like to share my thoughts:

 

Usually it goes like

Prepot

Immo

CoE (if needed)

Doomguard

Dark Soul + Troll + Synapse

2x Conflag

Inci until 2nd Ember is filled up

By now all trinkets + 4 PC + Meta should be up and I refresh my immolate for trolololololo Dot

2x Chaos Bolt

Inci til ember up

Chaos Bolt (still with PBI up)

 

this way I get around 1 M opener which Im quite confident with as Destro

 

However, as Im always trying to min/max I was wondering if there are any suggestions from you pro warlocks to improve this further more ;)

 

p.s.: playing max mastery > haste (10124) > crit

[Zagam 1,983]

Opener will suffer if you're using Haste instead of Crit.  Also, your first Immo isn't being affected by CoE.  You're also limiting your chances to get PBI to proc, but if you're seeing good procs, then keep on keepin' on.

[Cinaede 0]

So now that I'm 536 ilvl should I changemy talent build? I have been using the one noxxic reccomended. Which uses the highest dps cause a 522 kicked my ass & did top dps in my guilds flex lastnigt.. that shouldnt have happened we are a raiding guild!

 

I'm going to go back & look at what yall have been saying about openers BUT Zag after you advise the best talent tree can you give me your prefered rotation? I go with what you posted at the start of this thread & I'm wondering if you changed anything up & found a better rotation since early this year.

 

Thanks so much this is a great thread!!!!!!!

[Cinaede 0]

Also is it still Ctir & Haste at equal percentage?

[Zagam 1,983]

So now that I'm 536 ilvl should I changemy talent build? I have been using the one noxxic reccomended. Which uses the highest dps cause a 522 kicked my ass & did top dps in my guilds flex lastnigt.. that shouldnt have happened we are a raiding guild!

 

I'm going to go back & look at what yall have been saying about openers BUT Zag after you advise the best talent tree can you give me your prefered rotation? I go with what you posted at the start of this thread & I'm wondering if you changed anything up & found a better rotation since early this year.

 

Thanks so much this is a great thread!!!!!!!

He likely didn't use Noxxic.  There is no rotation.  It's all dynamic and should be adjusted to current procs and fight mechanics.  There is no best 'talent tree' for any spec, the talents are largely situational.  The difference between your DPS talent is small, but both Supremacy and Sacrifice are fine.

 

Also is it still Ctir & Haste at equal percentage?

Doesn't matter.  Play with whatever percentages you like with Haste and Crit.  Both are viable.

[Cinaede 0]

will you check out my armory?

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malfurion/Cinaede/simple any advise is welcome

[Cinaede 0]

yours in the pic is so much lower than equal... I really am trying hard to get off the flex teams & secure a spot on a 10 man for better gear... I need to max my dps to show some of the leaders that i earned a spot. playing with my stats has only made it unreliable what I will do in a raid.. the one night i though ti would suck i was top 3 all night, theni got 3 new gear items & havent been able to find the sweet spot since

[Zagam 1,983]

Your armory and stats aren't going to max your DPS...your play ability, knowledge on what spell to cast at the right time, and proper use of your toolkit for each fight will maximize your DPS.  My Haste is low because I don't care about Haste.  I care about big numbers.  If you got gear and your DPS went down, there's a larger issue than what your stats are doing.

[Cinaede 0]

yea I have been keeping a log... even after I lost the sweet spot on the 5th I was 534ilvl

haste 16.30                                                             immolate (1.29) 153,762

hit 13.25 (yes i know it needs to be 15)                  conflag 72,351

crit 15.33                                                                  incinerate (1.72) 74,280

mast 79.30                                                                CB (2.58) 152,243

 

Today my ilvl is 536 (new shoes)

haste 17.03                                                        immolate (1.28) 136,560

hit 14.86                                                             conflag 64,258

crit 16.43                                                           incinerate (1.71) 65,971

mast 81.42                                                          CB 135,963

 

I mean this is a HUGE LOSS I am doing something wrong... I just dotn kwo what it is. Cinaede is my only 90. I kinda only want my 1 90 other than maybe a monk & a mage... But For being a year old I need her to NOT SUCK like this.

So if you dont care about haste, should I try more mastery or crit? Which matters more? SHould I just do what Mr robot tells me to do lol... I want an above average cookie cutter character but I'm apparently failing

[Cinaede 0]

I meant NOT cookie cutter*

[Zagam 1,983]

I don't even know what those numbers mean.  Are those the DPS contributions by each spell?  That still doesn't help anyone figure out what you're doing.  Read my Fix your DPS FAQ and go through each of those questions and self-assess yourself. 

[Cinaede 0]

lol... Did I mention not only am Ia girl but blonde & I kinda suck at this game even though I try terribly hard.. Thats what I see when I click my pic in game at the bottom & thats what I see under my spell section... Just watched your Jimmy falon youtube lol then his gaming with my mom clip... Do you have any vids on you tube of your play style

[Zagam 1,983]

Don't discredit yourself for being blonde or a girl.  Our resident female rockstar, Zanzal, is both of those and she destroys the meters like a boss.  I think the principle here is that you should work smarter, not harder.

 

I don't stream or record videos.  There are a multitude of ways to try to find and correct issues, but nearly all of them come from a World of Logs parse where our resident Warlock allstars can digest and assess your issues.  You couldn't watch someone with 40 item levels ahead of you play because their playstyle is going to differ with procs, stats, and other effects.  We need to work on you and your core, not try to play mimic with someone else's play.

[Cinaede 0]

thats kind & thanks. (not a natural blonde anyways but dont tell anyone )

Maybe I should have said I'm not you're average gamer type. Wow is the only game I play & I've played on & mostly off for about 6 years, but this is my first time really diving in & trying to be the best I can be & learning. Its just not coming easily.

 

How do I put myself into that world of logs parse? & again thanks for all your help

[Cinaede 0]

found it... & registering

[Zagam 1,983]

Now run LFR or Flex or something, really anything.  Upload the logs and link them here.  Then we will figure out how to make your performance grow.

[Zanzal 6]

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Edited November 19, 2013 by Zanzal

[Drafty53 17]

Hey Zag,

Looking to hear more about your feedback on your low haste build from the other night. Are you going to continue to experiment or do you think you are going to favor Mastery > Crit > Haste as a more set in stone priority now?

[Zagam 1,983]

It's just my preference.

[Drafty53 17]

It's just my preference.

So what about your OS? If you ever decide to play affliction/demo for a fight will you just reforge/re-gem for that fight (Since both those specs favor mastery>haste>crit) or are you comfortable enough to play destro on all SoO fights at this point?

[Cinaede 0]

Hey, Cinaede!

Zanzal here! Just like Zag said, don't sell yourself short for being a girl or a blonde. Took me a little bit to get of the hang of it, but that will happen to everyone. Now I'm proud to say I'm in a 9/14 Heroic guild and pullin' numbers like a champ, with much help coming from the warlocks at Icy-Veins.

At least you're looking in the right place. Some of the best warlocks (and players) in game are here and can answer all of your questions.

I'm always running things. I'll probably do a couple LFR wings this week if you want to join. I can tell you what I see immediately and then we can look at logs and see if there is any underlying performance issues.

 

Zanzal#1932

 Hey There THANKS! I sent you a battle tag req, I still need secrets so I am down with lfr =) just let me know

[Zagam 1,983]

So what about your OS? If you ever decide to play affliction/demo for a fight will you just reforge/re-gem for that fight (Since both those specs favor mastery>haste>crit) or are you comfortable enough to play destro on all SoO fights at this point?

I don't OS anymore.  Destruction is rock solid for all Heroic fights.

[Kazistrasz 216]

How do you handle Thok?

[Zagam 1,983]

Not let myself get interrupted.  Use Backdraft for Chaos Bolt.  Keep Immolate up.  Abuse Havoc with the Jailer to get 3 Shadowburns on the Jailer + Thok.  Use Ember Tap when necessary.  Rape the bats with Fire and Brimstone + Unending Resolve.