Beast Mastery Hunter 7.3

[Guest Dire Stable error]

The tooltip used here for Dire Stable does not match the in game tooltip. Specifically, in game it says that Dire Stable affects Dire Frenzy, not Dire Beast. If the in game information is correct, then Dire Stable is only beneficial if you take Dire Frenzy. Does anyone have clarification?

[Orthios 271]

21 minutes ago, Guest Dire Stable error said:

The tooltip used here for Dire Stable does not match the in game tooltip. Specifically, in game it says that Dire Stable affects Dire Frenzy, not Dire Beast. If the in game information is correct, then Dire Stable is only beneficial if you take Dire Frenzy. Does anyone have clarification?

In game tooltips update themselves according to your talent choices, so if you have the Dire Frenzy talent the Dire Stable tooltip will show the different info than if you didn't have the Dire Frenzy talent.

[Guest Sloth]

The guide says about the legendary ring Apex Predators Claw: "If you get this legendary, however, you should use a Tenacity pet as it is very slightly stronger.  Remember to turn off Thunderstomp's autocast."

1. I assume if you turn off Thunderstomp's autocast that you should not be using Thunderstomp at all?  Is this because of the threat it generates or is it a dps loss somehow?

2. Why is a tenacity pet slightly stronger if not using Thunderstomp?  Is it because Charge is better than Dash&Rabid?  Another reason?

3. If you don't have the legendary ring is a tenacity pet still stronger?  

[Azortharion 60]

1) It costs focus and does next to no damage, does not appear to be worth it. Can't be simmed atm.
2) Charge is a DPS increase. This is in the tooltip of Charge.
3) No.

[Guest BM Hunter]

Is the legendary BM belt able to be quantified down to a +DPS number for the effect? I'm wondering if the 20% focus reduction during BW is a flat XX% dps upgrade.

[Azortharion 60]

You can infer this from the legendary simulations in the guide.



This also includes the damage bonus from the belt itself with the stats and higher iLvl than the 865 BiS belt that the sim is using.

[Guest who]

hi, is there any point in holding off using DB procs? or is it one of those where you smash asap (assuming BW isn't close to coming off cd)?

thanks

[Guest Trollioli - Hyjal]

If you have Titan's Thunder (Artifact Gold Trait), it might be better to wait on a DB use if it's about to come off CD so that you can get the full 8s effect. Other than that, it's like you said: if BW is about to come off CD (I don't know the exact number but I go with <5s), I save a DB until I hit BW.

[Guest What's happening]

Is the Azortharion that was banned on the MMO-Champion forums the same one that runs this guide?

 

I see a lot of cross-talk between here and there for Sim and Theory-crafting, wondering if that will affect anything...

[Orthios 271]

Just now, Guest What's happening said:

Is the Azortharion that was banned on the MMO-Champion forums the same one that runs this guide?

 

I see a lot of cross-talk between here and there for Sim and Theory-crafting, wondering if that will affect anything...

Yes, it's the same person.  No that doesn't disqualify him any.  He might be a dick, but he's a smart dick.

[Azortharion 60]

Makes no difference, it expires in 5 days. :)

[Guest Joji]

Thanks for all your work azor.

it looks like devisaurs bite was removed from the trinket list, probly because of the normally low ilvl, however since the bump to wq ilvls i picked up an 860 one.  I used it in ToV and heroic EN and its procs equaled or surpassed my 860 oakhearts (worst luck with trinks).  I think with the mastery increase from the ilvl increase and the proc doing good damage you might consider putting it up back up if you can sim it at that level. Also, though not relevant to boss fights, the devilsaur proc also procs sephus secret, kinda nice for myths and trash.

also in the rotation section it still warns about killer cobra not proccing until cobra lands.

[Guest Joji]

After further testing today it does not proc sephus secret, sry bout that.

[Valks 2,373]

2 hours ago, Guest Joji said:

After further testing today it does not proc sephus secret, sry bout that.

Thanks for coming back to clarify that :)

[Guest who]

hi, when aoe'ing under the effects of BW, is there any point in using CoS to reset KC (with Killer Cobra slotted)? or do we just stick to the priorities?

thanks

[Azortharion 60]

If you got more focus than you can spend, then yes.

[Guest Kromveng]

Hi, i am currently at ilvl 855 and i am doing dps about 180k to 200k, is it the norm? 

As much as i restrict myself from using CS. it still the second top dmg skill i do which shouldnt be the case i guess?

[Valks 2,373]

10 hours ago, Guest Kromveng said:

Hi, i am currently at ilvl 855 and i am doing dps about 180k to 200k, is it the norm? 

As much as i restrict myself from using CS. it still the second top dmg skill i do which shouldnt be the case i guess?

Unfortunately, there isn't much that we can tell you from just seeing your item level. Your best bet is to post a log in the Hunter forum of you playing and allow your fellow hunters to help out with what you are doing wrong. As it stands, we know absolutely nothing about what you are doing. 

[Guest Obrigan]

Hey ! I have a question : is it worth to have more than 100% mastery ? I actually have 106% ! (sorry my english is bad :X)

[Valks 2,373]

8 hours ago, Guest Obrigan said:

Hey ! I have a question : is it worth to have more than 100% mastery ? I actually have 106% ! (sorry my english is bad :X)

I don't see why this would be an issue. If you feel that you would benefit more from other stats, simply sim your own character. It will give you a basic idea of whether you should push for another stat, at least for a little bit.

[Guest Gwen]

Thank you very much for this guide.  I've been following it since I created my hunter mid-WoD.  I have a few questions about stats and relics that I've asked in-game of various hunters and  no one seems to be able to provide an answer.  I'll try to be succinct. ;)

1.  Ilvl - 864.  Current stats:  Mastery - 84%, Haste - 8%, Crit - 34%.  I have noticed a very slow Focus regen with this haste level.  I do have Sephuz's Ring and I switched my talent to Intimidation to take advantage of it -- but while I do have nice haste bursts because of it -- overall, the regen is slow.  Should I increase my haste, and if so, how much?  (I thought perhaps 10%?)  I also just picked up a new piece of gemmable gear - wondering if I should now gem haste instead of mastery.

2.  Current Relics:  1 Pack Leader, 2 Furious Swipes.  To increase my ST damage, I thought I would remove one Swipes and go for either 2 Pack Leaders or Jaws of Thunder.  As it is taking me forever to get either one of these -- would it be a good idea to go with 1 Pack and 1 Jaws?  Or should it really be 2 of either Pack or Jaws.

Any help you can provide in answering these questions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

[Valks 2,373]

On 11/29/2016 at 4:32 PM, Guest Gwen said:

1.  Ilvl - 864.  Current stats:  Mastery - 84%, Haste - 8%, Crit - 34%.  I have noticed a very slow Focus regen with this haste level.  I do have Sephuz's Ring and I switched my talent to Intimidation to take advantage of it -- but while I do have nice haste bursts because of it -- overall, the regen is slow.  Should I increase my haste, and if so, how much?  (I thought perhaps 10%?)  I also just picked up a new piece of gemmable gear - wondering if I should now gem haste instead of mastery.

Bit late here, but:

The stat priority details Haste as the #2 stat for BM, after Mastery. You have way too much Crit I think.

On 11/29/2016 at 4:32 PM, Guest Gwen said:

2.  Current Relics:  1 Pack Leader, 2 Furious Swipes.  To increase my ST damage, I thought I would remove one Swipes and go for either 2 Pack Leaders or Jaws of Thunder.  As it is taking me forever to get either one of these -- would it be a good idea to go with 1 Pack and 1 Jaws?  Or should it really be 2 of either Pack or Jaws.

Are these all the same item level that you are considering for replacement?

[Guest Heavyshot]

When ever I sim myself I always get haste being my best secondary by quite a bit relatively. Only time mastery is ahead is when I sim for multiple targets, anyone else getting the same sims?

[Valks 2,373]

8 hours ago, Guest Heavyshot said:

When ever I sim myself I always get haste being my best secondary by quite a bit relatively. Only time mastery is ahead is when I sim for multiple targets, anyone else getting the same sims?

The stat weights you receive will be changed by what your current gear setup is. For example, if you have 100% of Mastery, Haste and Crit (BM's top 3 stats), but 0% of Versatility (BM's worst stat), SimC will weight you heavily towards getting some Vers. 

It can change entirely depending on where you are gear-wise. The general priority and stat weights are basically looking at trying to average out the possible differences between item levels and seeing which stat peforms best at every item level.

[Guest Kredes]

This guide once had a pawn string, why was that removed?