Cinaede 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 Zagam your armory says that you are using Grimoire of sacrafice. just wondering why that is, instead of Supremacy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 Zagam your armory says that you are using Grimoire of sacrafice. just wondering why that is, instead of Supremacy Once you get KTT GoSac increases in performance for Destruction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cinaede 0 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 ok new questions, whats KTT? & When comparing my toon to mr. robot my stats after refordging doesnt add up. should i be looking at Ranged, Spell or Melee? it says my mast should be 101.05 when on wow its like 83... I dont get it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 ok new questions, whats KTT? & When comparing my toon to mr. robot my stats after refordging doesnt add up. should i be looking at Ranged, Spell or Melee? it says my mast should be 101.05 when on wow its like 83... I dont get it You are confusing the hell out of me, gentle soul. First, KTT = Kardris' Toxic Totem. Trinket from Dark Shaman bosses. What do you mean your stats aren't adding up exactly? You should definitely be looking at spell stats. Us warlocks are spell casters. As for mastery, are you sure you're looking at the same specs? 15,000 mastery for Destruction is a different percentage than 15,000 mastery for Demonology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zagam 1,983 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 Zagam your armory says that you are using Grimoire of sacrafice. just wondering why that is, instead of Supremacy Never look at my armory. I do weird things all the time. Follow the guidelines written out here. I LEGIT had someone ask why I was using a Safari Hat and the Timeless Isle trinket. Please don't look at my armory. I do weird things all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilion 8 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 (edited) I LEGIT had someone ask why I was using a Safari Hat and the Timeless Isle trinket. Please don't look at my armory. I do weird things all the time. But your armory says you use Mr.Whiskers as a battlepet, I was doing so to increase my dps! :( Edited October 29, 2013 by Ilion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brown 14 Report post Posted October 29, 2013 Never look at my armory. I do weird things all the time. Follow the guidelines written out here. I LEGIT had someone ask why I was using a Safari Hat and the Timeless Isle trinket. Please don't look at my armory. I do weird things all the time. Gotta spiritbond that gear to break for materia. Wait, wrong game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cinaede 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 You are confusing the hell out of me, gentle soul. First, KTT = Kardris' Toxic Totem. Trinket from Dark Shaman bosses. What do you mean your stats aren't adding up exactly? You should definitely be looking at spell stats. Us warlocks are spell casters. As for mastery, are you sure you're looking at the same specs? 15,000 mastery for Destruction is a different percentage than 15,000 mastery for Demonology. OK so bare withme, I suck at explaining stuff... in game when you click onyour pic & it shows you all your armor. To the left of that is all the stats... Then onthe mr.robot page it has the optomized stats to the lef tof the page Mr.Robot says Mastery 97.83% 81.87% Spell Power 33887 28366 Spell Hit (?) 15.20% 15.20% Crit (?) 19.18% 13.22% Haste 8.75% 8.75% My in game pic says... under spell mast 83.38 spell power 28.366 hit 13.14 crit 17.34 haste 8.12 See where the numbers are different? god I hope this helps cause I literally spent all update today reading this thread & others.. now im confused =( I just wanna be good & get into a reg flex raid group Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilion 8 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) Mr Robot's numbers assume raid buffs. Edited October 30, 2013 by Ilion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cinaede 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 OK so bare withme, I suck at explaining stuff... in game when you click onyour pic & it shows you all your armor. To the left of that is all the stats... Then onthe mr.robot page it has the optomized stats to the lef tof the page Mr.Robot says buff unbuffed Mastery 97.83% 81.87% Spell Power 33887 28366 Spell Hit (?) 15.20% 15.20% Crit (?) 19.18% 13.22% Haste 8.75% 8.75% My in game pic says... under spell mast 83.38 spell power 28.366 hit 13.14 crit 17.34 haste 8.12 See where the numbers are different? god I hope this helps cause I literally spent all update today reading this thread & others.. now im confused =( I just wanna be good & get into a reg flex raid group ok so it didnt copy & paste didnt work the way i thought.. here it is again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ilion 8 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Wait what? Are you sure you're not checking under Melee Tab? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kazistrasz 216 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 If your numbers are different, then you should reload your armory and re-optimize. Odds are very good you're off. I've never once seen AMR's stat calculations be off by more than 1 point (which is due to rounding with PBI). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turwaithon 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Hey all, Should be a pretty easy and quick question for someone to clear up..... When you fire off a CB, does it use your stats from when its released or the time when it hits like HoG? i.e. Should you be timing to fire your last CB off just as the trinket finish's procc'ing, or timing it to hit the target as the Proc ends?! Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ragebarr 153 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Hey all, Should be a pretty easy and quick question for someone to clear up..... When you fire off a CB, does it use your stats from when its released or the time when it hits like HoG? i.e. Should you be timing to fire your last CB off just as the trinket finish's procc'ing, or timing it to hit the target as the Proc ends?! Cheers! First post in this thread. Section 11. Paragraph 2. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nytemare 2 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 I have Hood of the Horned Nightmare and I also have Hood of Swirling Senses Do I go for the 2pc Destro bonus or do I go with the better warforged item? I know 2pc is crappy compare to 4pc but for time being. my goal is to get T Shoulder, Chest, and Legs - I got hands and use the Warforged Helm as Mr. Robot says its BIS for me (only counting normal) Stats - 4.6 Mastery, 4.5 Crit - and I put Haste to .01 so I would get all mastery/crit gear - should I change the stats. Robot right now has me using the Flex THelm over Warforge helm so I have 2pc right now, what do you guys think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Demyndra 6 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 I have Hood of the Horned Nightmare and I also have Hood of Swirling Senses Do I go for the 2pc Destro bonus or do I go with the better warforged item? I know 2pc is crappy compare to 4pc but for time being. my goal is to get T Shoulder, Chest, and Legs - I got hands and use the Warforged Helm as Mr. Robot says its BIS for me (only counting normal) Stats - 4.6 Mastery, 4.5 Crit - and I put Haste to .01 so I would get all mastery/crit gear - should I change the stats. Robot right now has me using the Flex THelm over Warforge helm so I have 2pc right now, what do you guys think? If youre destro only, I would use WF Helm, until you can throw together a 4 piece. The secondary stats are better, and theres about 300 more intellect on it as well. 2 piece is amazing for Affliction, but not so much destro. Destro shines with the 4pc. If you go Affi as off-spec...use both. Tier for affi, and WF for destro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JvChequer 43 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 I got my 2tp. Finally D: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t3chy 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Destro's opener involves getting two Chaos Bolts in your first 10 seconds. Do whatever you must to make that happen. any advice? :s using PBI and BBoy.. always short of embers for the 2nd cb =( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakupenda 15 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 any advice? :s using PBI and BBoy.. always short of embers for the 2nd cb =( Dark Soul your Immolate, Rain of Fire, Conflagrate, Incinerate a couple times. You have 4-5 seconds before BBOY gets adequate to squeeze two Chaos Bolts at high stacks, which is plenty of time to get a few Incinerates off for the second ember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t3chy 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Dark Soul your Immolate, Rain of Fire, Conflagrate, Incinerate a couple times. You have 4-5 seconds before BBOY gets adequate to squeeze two Chaos Bolts at high stacks, which is plenty of time to get a few Incinerates off for the second ember. i assume that u would consume ur Backfire just to squeeze in the cb ? :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rakupenda 15 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Why would you waste Backdraft*** stacks in your opener? You have plenty of time to get two chaos bolts off because you have your meta gem proc (30% like Backdraft would provide) and possibly Heroism and/or Berserking if you're Troll. No bueno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t3chy 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Why would you waste Backdraft*** stacks in your opener? You have plenty of time to get two chaos bolts off because you have your meta gem proc (30% like Backdraft would provide) and possibly Heroism and/or Berserking if you're Troll. No bueno. Blah crap keep getting my stuffs naming wrong guess i'm tired. Thx for the info. will try it later in the night before raid. Cheers ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 Why would you waste Backdraft*** stacks in your opener? You have plenty of time to get two chaos bolts off because you have your meta gem proc (30% like Backdraft would provide) and possibly Heroism and/or Berserking if you're Troll. No bueno. I disagree. I get about 4 CB's off in my opener. Occasionally I'll even luck out and get Toxic Power to proc back to back. I pretty much always use my 2nd and 3rd Conflag to push out more CB's, because with all those buffs that's the best damage you're going to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spaztom 0 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 For trinkets I have breath of hydra (prefer it over Wooshoo) and LFR bindings from Immersus. My opener is thus: Pot - Synapse Springs - (Blood Fury - Dark Soul) <--- those two are macro'd so I press 1 button - Immolate - Conflag X2 - then as many Incin's I need til I get 2 chaos bolts and THEN I throw out my Doomguard. Is the above right? I wonder if I should get my doomguard out a bit earlier with all my procs up or just not worry about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Omaric 246 Report post Posted October 30, 2013 For trinkets I have breath of hydra (prefer it over Wooshoo) and LFR bindings from Immersus. My opener is thus: Pot - Synapse Springs - (Blood Fury - Dark Soul) <--- those two are macro'd so I press 1 button - Immolate - Conflag X2 - then as many Incin's I need til I get 2 chaos bolts and THEN I throw out my Doomguard. Is the above right? I wonder if I should get my doomguard out a bit earlier with all my procs up or just not worry about it. Looks good, but yes, I would definitely get your Doomguard out with the rest of your CD's (DS/SS). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites