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Hey, so I've recently decided to main a BM hunter for the rest of legion and was just curious if there was some helpful tips out there (I've been reading up on the guides/forum posts but trying to see if I'm doing ok).
this is me. https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/nagrand/greenmidget
sorry, I haven't done this before so I don't have any data to link or know how to use stuff like Warcraft logs or sims. I've also haven't done many runs of tombs yet so don't have any tier pieces.
looking at the icy veins guides I've talented for dire frenzy but didn't realise how much mastery I ended up with. Have I gone too crazy with mastery, should I be adjusting my stat prio better? Thinking I should probably gem for more haste. Most of my enchants/ gems I'm using are just ones I had the highest rank for and cheapest to make so my necklace is probably enchanted wrong.
i probably specced for mostly single target and think I've been doing fairly poorly for AoE damage compared to other people around my ilvl. Although I know to use multi-shot to refresh beast cleave I probably spam multi-shot more than the 4 secs needed, don't really use dire frenzy effectively, use titan's thunder basically whenever it's off cooldown, don't really know when I'm meant to be using aspect of the wild or whether I should be using beastial wrath in AoE fights. Should I be using murder of crows in AoE fights as well or is it just a waste of focus?
For single target I think I'm doing alright so far (only recently got the legendary boots so not sure how much the kill command cooldown should affect my rotation). Still don't really know when the best time is to be using aspect of the wild but I was basically doing the same as the icy veins guide. My opening sequence is usually something like Murder of crows, beastial wrath, titans thunder, then just kill command, cobra shot, kill command cobra shot etc.
Looking at icy veins guide I think I'm meant to be doing murder of the crows, beastial wrath, dire frenzy, titans thunder, then another dire frenzy straight away, aspect of the wild then normal rotation. After that it's just kill command/cobra shot I guess. While beastiality wrath is in effect should I only be spamming kill command/cobra shot for the quick cooldowns or should I still be using dire frenzy during this time? I use titan thunder when it's off cooldown and dire frenzy whenever it has 2 stacks. I usually just used murder of the crows when it was off cooldown but the guide seems to indicate that I should wait the extra 30 seconds and time it with my next bestial wrath. As for aspect of the wild I usually forget I even have this move and don't use it effectively, do I wait and combined it with bestial wrath? Wait and use it when I'm low on focus? Or use it as soon as it's off cooldown?
Thanks for listening to my rambling and hopefully thanks for your reply.
P.S. It's probably more of a personally choice or situational choice I guess but should I be talenting myself more for AoE for mythics. Example, one with the pack, volley, aspect of the beast?
Hey there, looking for some common mistakes I might be making in my gear or dps rotation that I am just not seeing. You'd think it would be pretty basic but my dps has been all over the place recently.
I will be fighting kiljaeden (pretty standard) and have anywhere from 650-850dps average for the fight. It's gotten me kicked a couple times obviously despite being good on mechanics. I've reviewed several guides, made sure I am enchanted and gemmed... cannot figure it out. What am I doing wrong? (Yes low on meters for other fights as well though not always).
924 iLevel, wearing legendary belt and chest (dont have tier to wear shoulders and chest)
67% Mastery (issue?)
24% Critical Strike
Opener: Blood Fury, Tome (trinket), Crow, Bestial Wrath, Dire Frenzy, KC, AspectotW, Titan's Thunder, CS, KC, DF...
Repeat KC, CS, And cast DF whenever buff falls off or procs bonus.
Talent Build is:
Helps, tips, advice welcome.
Are there common mistakes to rotation i might be making even if u dont see it here? Should i be working hard to gear swap? I am at a loss and it is getting frustrating. Thanks
grettings icy veins!
want to share a new funny deck xD
Bite weed 8/8 turn 3? we got this!
i'm going to try a FULL GIANT rogue deck. due to Mimic Pod and Thistle Tea we can stack up and tech also for another type of GIANT , while we tech for the standard giant Arcane Giant , using the two cards above we can also tech for : Mountain Giant
while we tech for giants we will fullfill the board with tougher Edwin VanCleef and Biteweed.
Here it is the list without Mountain Giant because i have to craft and test it.
Counterfeit Coin x2
Bladed Cultist x2 (not sure... it can be swapped with everything you want)
Jade Shuriken x2 (this really can summon a 4/4 without any other jade cards. events , this deck is randomized events)
Mimic Pod x2
Fan of Knives x2
Edwin VanCleef x1
Sherazin, Corpse Flower x1 (we do not run much creatures in the deck , but mid late we play lots of cards. LOTS i mean LOTS of cards.)
Vilespine Slayer x2
Thistle Tea x2
Arcane Giant x2
This is actually winning against hunter face decks.
Mulligan --> just search spells. SHIV got priority over everything. hero power too. (not always)
Hey Gang, would you mind looking at my logs and let me know where I can improve my rotation as an assassination rogue. I notice that all of my best logs have a significant amount of Poison Bomb and I don't like praying to RNJesus. I am hoping there are some things I can do to hit top dps.
Here is my armory. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Elodar/simple. I know my Mastery is low but lately I have had crap luck on drops. One of the options I have to bring up my Mastery is to drop Insignia of Ravenholdt +Well Flattened Wristguards and change to Denial of Half Giants + an 890 Spellblades Gemmed Signet but Denial is a sub rogue legendary. This brings my agility to 34248, mastery to 137%, and my crit to 28%. I tried running this combo with the higher mastery and did not feel like I was doing more dps even though the Sims say I should.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dF3qCynDbvGrVAh6#fight=14&type=damage-done&source=186 This is one of my better logs where I think I did most thing correct. Please look at this and let me know if there is something I am missing.
Hi all ! , this is my first post on Icy Veins , I'm ORO , and i play only ROGUE since 2 years on Heartstone.
I want to share with this community my new Rogue Deck. it's pretty Similar to other decks played around , but it has some Variety and situational Cards that noone is playing , and that are helping me a lot.
I don’t want to play those “charge” cards. Because if u fail the first hit , you have lost , and also you have no chance of backup or comeback drawing next card
Never start questing on a creature that will give you problems , or you know you will be slower than enemy.
If you will use this deck you can also be competitive versus long range decks.
Elementals are way better than pirates , and you agro so much that you won’t need SAP , you also can quest on glacial shards , usefull versus Hunter and Warrior. A LOT.
I would like also to explain after every cards , why i use this , and the situaions.
Shadowstep x2 [edit15:35 , sorry for the lapsus]:
Just NEED that for the combo.
casting quest at 2 mana. AoE Dmg with Thalnos and Fan of knives . USEFULL to cast ENEMY spells that you steal with Swashburglar.
good to cast the core with 2 mana , nice with fan of knives. nice with Vanish.
The Caverns Below x1
It does not need explain. it's a quest deck :)
[edit 19/04] TRICK : you can play it as a combo. example : 2nd turn order --> The Coin --> Preparation --> The Caverns Below --> Edwin VanCleef . we got a 6/6 down and we sure gain some time. pretty a small all in of the deck. this trick let you play aggressive in the early turns , and this deck DON'T play aggressive in the early 4 turns.
Fire Fly x2
you can go late game with this. or quest at third turn. it can easily let you have 5 creatures down on 4th turn = 25 dmg on the 5th turn.
Do you still have Swashburglar in your hand and Patches in the deck ? a coin ? :)
Swashburglar x 2
this is unpredictable , it can steal worst cards , or best cards. sometimes best cards are not the best cards of the specific Match you playing. I call it a knife with a double cut side. sometimes it fulls your hand with cards that you won't use at all or you don't need . it's can be the salvation , or you are just wasting mana.
Patches the Pirate x1
i use it early only in critical situations , where my enemy is a strong face deck. Face Deck that love to have creatures alives to buff them. i really prefer to use it like a "surprise" of the last 5 dmg.
i Mean if you're playing only 2x Swashburglar you can probably keep it in the deck for all the game.
Always good , because also you put out a card from your deck. using his perk it's like drawing a card
Glacial Shard x2
ok , you may go in combo with this. when? you have to predict it. realy usefull in many games against aggro NoFace decks. sometimes let me play 2 more turns , taking no dmg.
[edit 19/04] wow , awesome card. counter this Swamp King Dred , and go on on your questing ? NICE , AND TASTY , NOT ?
Youthful Brewmaster x2
NEED FOR QUEST
Gadgetzan Ferryman x2
NEED FOR QUEST
Bloodmage Thalnos x1
Really need to be played with Fan of Knives , you don't play it? every face aggro will (probably) destroy you with those stupid 1/2 , 2/3 , or 3/2 stuff.
when it's the only option on the 2nd turn just play it. never keep it for too long in your hand.
Novice Engineer x2
BEST CARD FOR QUEST. Draw is better than everything. we got also counters in the deck.
Edwin VanCleef x1
Emergency , play it before quest only in emergencies. you can double shadowstep him at turn 5. or it becomes really BIG played after the quest completion. because the quest make it 5/5 while he is in your hand.
ALERT! : if you are going to play the quest in the next turn , and Edwin is an 8/8 for Example , you can use the quest to heal him after he attacked a provoke creature , or something else dangerous.
Fan of Knives x2
Good with Thalnos , with preparation , i prefer this , to Mimic Pod Deck and "dmg" cards like :Counterfeit Coin , Deadly Poison , Sinister Strike , Eviscerate ,Jade Shuriken , I can say that Mimic Pod made me Lose much more of Win. i think it's a card for a miracle deck (Mimic Pod....)
Ironbeak Owl x1
Usefull , better then SAP. NICE VERSUS PRIESTS , PALADINS , sometimes it can be used for the quest.
sometimes you can silence the heavy provoke creatures of the warrior. he got a slower deck , so you can play the owl for the quest.
Gluttonous Ooze x1
Just will save your ASS against WARRIOR , PALADINS , ROGUE , Hunters.
Igneous Elemental x2
let's take two more elementals 1/2 , usefull for questing , and mid/late range aggro. anyway good to be played with the coin in your 2nd turn.
Eater of Secrets x1
if you want to rank up with this deck , you have to play counter creatures. you don't know if in your next game , you will lose just because of a double Ice Block. remeber you can play it many times sapping it in your hand , and with just 4 mana you dispel ALL the secrets that the enemy had played before. Tempo mage is a pain in the ass. or Just Ice Block is most broken card in the game? I don't know , I just have to dispel those secrets to win certain games . Also usefull versus Hunters , less Versus Paladins because their secrets are not so much dangerous for you.
Sherazin, Corpse Flower x1
it just revives , and revives , while you are questing/sapping Fire Fly/Swashburglar/Glacial Shard etc etc...
[edit 19/04] this is revealing a really good card. you can play the Vanish card as the fourth one that revives him. result : every creature go **** and Sherazin, Corpse Flower stay down alive. quite a good trick.
you can use it with all the creatures you have. the 1/1 after questing , it's a 5/5 :)
[edit 19/04] this is revealing too a good option , also for a 2x , Reasons: 1. you can copy your quest creature , 2. you can copy another shadow caster so you can chain themselves to get a full table of shadowcasters , and also you have a 4/4 before quest the completion. maybe the solution is to play Shadowcaster...x2 ? and put out the Youthful Brewmaster , so we can play Biteweed ? this is a good card you can play it 6/6 at the first turn (only if you got The Coin
Finally we got some use with Vanish! you can close the quest with this. or deal 5 more dmg with Patches the Pirate , or get back all your Fire Fly /Swashburglar. Good also to Clean the table , and aggro back taking a turn advantage. if u have many fire flyes down , the enemy won't aggro more than you , because his tougher creatures cost more than 1 mana. just use as last option against murloc decks , quest priest , quest warrior , quest hunter. you have one , play it wisely. maybe for a close combo with Patches the Pirate , but it must an ending game , last 5 dmg for the win. in the early with Preparation can be a good option if you are not drawing cards...
I don't play other pirates like Southsea Deckhand because of : Golakka Crawler and because i don't want an all-in deck , i want a durable and versatile deck.
I don't play Stonetusk Boar because i don't want an all-in deck , i want a durable and versatile deck.
I don't play Eviscerate or other Removals , because i need creatures down. no more.
List of suggested Cards that can synergyze good too and do tricky stuff ***not mentioned in the full deck above***
Wild Pyromancer (you can do the surprise trick with The Caverns Below to get an earl 1 dmg , good combo versus Face Hunters)
Lorewalker Cho (can work inside a "no-spells" deck, but every creature you play must do something. you should play creature that do what spells do)
I hope you will like it , we can discuss every choice i made about this. For the moment it's a rank 13 confirmed , but people it's starting to play counter decks , and this is more difficult.
This is weak versus tempo freezing quest mage , face hunters , and warriors that got the right quest deck with the right cards.
probably weak versus every face deck around. probably if u play pirate versione you lose much because of just 3/4 provoke creatures.
i'm open to advices by more experienced players :3
 updating while i wait some admin approve it :D