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Fal'dorei Strider: Kobolds & Catacombs

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This Epic Rogue minion looks like it can fit into any kind of Rogue deck!

German streamer Baumgott revealed this card on her brand new YouTube channel. Here is a screencap from the video:

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Although slightly on the slow side, this card is quite powerful. Even on its own, a 4-mana 4/4 is a decent tempo option. Combined with the abundance of card draw that Rogue has at its disposal, you can get value from it very fast and it also increases your card pool by three.

Therefore, it's a good option for Miracle Rogue. It can also fit well into both Tempo and even Mill Rogue. It's also a terrific counter versus Priest, which is one of the strongest classes of the current meta. 

The only objection I personally have with Fal'dorei Strider is that most Rogue decks, that are currently played, are more or less fleshed out. Miracle Rogue (and Rogue in general) has adequate card draw and a good 4-mana minion in Sherazin, Corpse Flower; Mill Rogue is already annoying enough to deal with, without having to think about the 4/4 Spiders; and lastly, Tempo Rogue is already a powerful deck and the Spiders cannot benefit from Prince Keleseth. Can a single or two copies of Fal'dorei Strider take another card's position in these decks? Probably yes, especially after the new Hearthstone Year begins.

Check the schedule for week 2 of the card reveals, which will start tomorrow. And remember that our Kobolds & Catacombs hub contains all the revealed cards from the upcoming expansion.

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Looks like a pretty decent, to strong, card. I'd probably play it in current tempo rogue over corpsetaker/Saronite.

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As a person with some miracle rogue experience, I think this card will make the cut, unless there are better midrange options in the remainder of the set. 

If this card is like Beneath the Grounds, draw a card after 4/4 is summoned, it is just insane. Even if not,  it is a 4/4 in the middle of your miracle turn, which is good, thinking it doesn't require mana and you can just keep drawing with Gadgetzan Auctioneer and a bunch of cheap spells.

Long story short; this card is good, and it wil see play.

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4 minutes ago, FanOfValeera said:

Long story short; this card is good, and it wil see play.

Amen!

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It's identical to Beneath the Grounds except is your deck instead of opponent one.

The difference is this a little stronger because has a body and isn't a spell that means... Shadowstep

Keleseth already dead just shadowstep this thing instead of him and autoplay a full board of 4/4 for 0 mana

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So can someone help clarify. Is this a 4/4 spider for your opponent when drawn like the old ambush cards? Or does it summon it for you?

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Giving up tempo now for maybe tempo later is really bad for tempo decks.  They work on a snowball effect, this will be deceptively bad in tempo rogue me thinks.  As a long time miracle player, I can say with confidence that this will be solid in miracle, however, miracle has a plethora of good 4 drops all ready, xaril, sherrazin, prince V.  This simply might not make the cut, or ran as a 1 of.  Also, this isn't going to be strong enough to bring miracle back.

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7 minutes ago, SMOrcMan said:

So can someone help clarify. Is this a 4/4 spider for your opponent when drawn like the old ambush cards? Or does it summon it for you?

For you, so it works the opposite way as Beneath the Grounds/Ambush.

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Guys wait a minute, the text is slightly different from beneath the grounds / Ambush!  Here it says cast this when drawn and it has a mana cost of 4, so does it perhaps spend your mana to do it? (Ambush! is 0 mana and says when u draw this u summon a 4/4 spider) Because then if you are turn 6 and draw this u only have 2 mana left.

Can soemone clarify this?

Edited by Breadd

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I was about to ask the same, it's annoying that it has a mana cost of 4 (maybe for other reasons. Edit: -> See next post from Hanz39).

But I don't think that it will actually cost mana because simple thing: Opponent plays something that lets you draw cards during his/her turn (Coldlight Oracle, Naturalize), that would mean it will not be cast unless left 4 mana unused during you last turn or it can't really need mana :D

Maybe it will be powerful, but still nothing really impressive in this new set.

Edited by Caldyrvan

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3 minutes ago, Breadd said:

yeah but still it says cast this and not just summon when draw...

Because the rest of the card text says "draw a card" this is because you draw this, summon it then you draw a card as you would have done normally, otherwise this thing would be your draw for the turn making it absolutely unplayable :) And you could draw another one of these summoning another then draw your regular card etc.

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7 hours ago, VaraTreledees said:

Giving up tempo now for maybe tempo later is really bad for tempo decks.  They work on a snowball effect, this will be deceptively bad in tempo rogue me thinks.

True, but Tempo Rogue doesn’t really have anything great in the 4-slot apart from saronite. And it’s only a small initial tempo drop. I think it could work.

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O blizzard, pleae tell me mill rogue is making a comeback. I'd be so happy

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