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Hearthstone Patch 11.2 Clarifications & Hotfixes

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The Hearthstone dev team apologized for doing a poor job at communicating changes regarding the latest Update 11.2, and reverted changes to Tess Greymane, and more.

  • The cap of Shudderwock’s Battlecry has been risen from 20 to 30.
  • Tess Greymane's Battlecry will once again work if she's destroyed, silenced, or otherwise removed.
  • Blizzard's going to provide a full Arcane Dust refunds for card nerfs.
  • Players with Quest Druid Decks at HTC Seoul can resubmit their decks.

Blizzard LogoBlizzard (Source)

Greetings,

Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent Update 11.2. We apologize for not offering notice in advance of these changes before they went live. We understand that this wasn’t a good experience and that it also had an impact on some of our esports competitors as well. This wasn’t an acceptable situation all around, and we’ll do better in the future.

Update 11.2 brought with it some changes as part of our ongoing, overall goal to make card interactions more intuitive across the board. The intention of some of those changes was to align four similar cards (Tess Greymane, Lynessa, Shudderwock, and Yogg-Saron). If you’re familiar with the way that one of these minions works, you should be able to guess how the others work. We added a cap to the maximum number of effects that can be generated by these Battlecries, and made Tess’ Battlecry end if she was destroyed, silenced, or otherwise removed, just like Yogg-Saron. 

After hearing your feedback to that change, we initially considered offering a full Arcane Dust refund for Tess. We also read feedback from players who use Tess in their decks asking for her to be reverted to her old functionality. In this case, we agree that it’s worthwhile to sacrifice some consistency so Tess is more fun to play, especially since our priority wasn’t to decrease Tess’ power level. With that in mind, instead of offering an Arcane Dust refund and encouraging players to disenchant the card, we’re reverting one of the changes to Tess Greymane so that her Battlecry will continue even if she’s destroyed, silenced, or otherwise removed from the board. 

This situation has also raised discussions regarding the definition of a card fix versus a dust-refunding nerf, so we thought this would be a good time to talk about our stance on the subject. 

We will continue to provide full Arcane Dust refunds for changes to cards that decrease their overall power level for balance purposes — in other words, card nerfs. 

We’re working to improve Hearthstone and make the underlying mechanics more intuitive. Bug fixes or system-wide mechanics changes to improve the game will not be grounds for a full Arcane Dust refund on a card. System-wide mechanical updates affect many different cards in ways that could make some more or less powerful, such as the interaction between Jungle Giants and Faceless Manipulator.

Lynessa Sunsorrow was never intended to apply her buffs in the order they were cast, so the update to her functionality in 11.2 was a bug fix for that card. The cap of 30 effects is a system-wide change intended to protect the service and players from potentially bad play experiences that have minimal player value. We’re planning to raise the cap of Shudderwock’s Battlecry from 20 to 30 when we implement the fix that reverts Tess, as well.

We’re currently planning to revert the change that caused Tess Greymane to stop casting her Battlecry when destroyed, silenced, or otherwise removed on June 8th PDT.

HCT Seoul and Quest Druid

We also would like to take this moment to apologize to our player community for this update’s impact on the HCT Tour Stop taking place in Seoul this weekend, specifically the 15 players who brought Quest Druid decks. 

After considering recent feedback and significant discussion, we felt that Quest Druid decks were most directly affected in terms of viability as a result of the changes that were introduced with Update 11.2. As such, we allowed players that brought Quest Druid an opportunity to resubmit their deck.

Balancing the health of the game with the needs and calendar of a global esport like the Hearthstone Championship Tour is always challenging. This wasn’t an acceptable situation all around, for us, our players, and competitors, and we’ll do better in the future.

Thanks again for your feedback and your understanding, and we'll see you in the Tavern.

In the meantime, the following hotfixes have been deployed to live servers:

Blizzard LogoBlizzard (Source)

June 8th, 2018

  • Tess Greymane will continue casting even if she's destroyed, silenced, or otherwise removed from the board.

June 7th, 2018

  • Dreadsteed is no longer killed permanently by effects that destroy it at the end of turn. 
  • Spells countered by Counterspell will no longer apply “next spell” discounts as if they were successfully cast. 
  • Fixed certain AI crashes involving Vex Crow/Petrified Bark/Cryostasis
  • Fixed an issue where silencing a Battlecry minion would prevent its ability from being recast from Shudderwock.

June 6th, 2018

  • Minions with “Can’t be targeted by spells or Hero Powers” will now Adapt properly.
  • Elementals that have been Transformed will now properly trigger the "played an Elemental last turn" effect.
  • Resolved an instability issue that could be caused by Shudderwock and Kalimos.

Monster Hunt 

  • Toki’s Hero Power will no longer sometimes make minions that have been transformed in play become invisible.

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E sport ready...

 

i have no idea whats going on with blizz atm

 

heartstone updates were fucked up 

and i dont even need to mention overwatch ...

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At least they admitted that they messed it up as well as apologizing for the way they "sneaked" these changes in.

I still think Lynessa should give a full dust refund, their reason "it was never intended ..." is a bad one. After such a long time they notice this? Seriously? Also players had no way to know it was not intended and may have crafted her (even though she is not really a strong card) to use the "in the same order" as a strategy. Without this they would not have crafted her.

Even though they apologized and tried to clean up the mess they should consider announcing such patches a few days before they go live. No need to announce a hotfix that changes an animation or whatever but anything that affects gameplay. This way they would get feedback about it before any harm is done.

For a company like Blizz this is really embarrassing imo. If it wasn't about virtual content it would be really rough. Imagine someone changing plans and details for the construction of a building and sending the workers to start with the new changes. Later they notice the building will not be stable. Which would result in a huge waste of time and money or even endangering people.

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Lynessa was indeed intended to cast buffs in random order, I remember mentioning this on my reveal article on her. I can’t be bothered linking right now because I am on my cell phone, but if you google “Peter Whalen lynessa”, you will see him tweeting about this on the day the card was first revealed.

now why it went live differently and why it took so long to fix is a whole different issue

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