Season of Discovery Subtlety Rogue DPS Talents and Runes

Last updated on Apr 08, 2025 at 16:00 by Sellin 3 comments

On this page, you will find out the best PvE talents for your DPS Subtlety Rogue in WoW Classic — Season of Discovery, as well as advised runes.

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Subtlety Rogue DPS Talent Build

Your talent build as an Subtlety rogue is largely set in stone due to the strength of talents located deep within the Subtlety tree such as Preparation Icon Preparation and Deadliness Icon Deadliness. As we have reached max level we have many more options when it comes to how to spend our talent points outside of the Subtlety tree. This build opts for Relentless Strikes Icon Relentless Strikes in the Assassination tree and Precision Icon Precision in the Combat tree. If you find yourself in a group where you are required to run Improved Expose Armor Icon Improved Expose Armor consider taking the two points from Precision Icon Precision and moving them there.

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Gloves — Mutilate Icon Mutilate

Pants — Envenom Icon Envenom

Chest — Deadly Brew Icon Deadly Brew

Waist — Poisoned Knife Icon Poisoned Knife

Feet — Master of Subtlety Icon Master of Subtlety

Helm — Honor Among Thieves Icon Honor Among Thieves

Wrist — Carnage Icon Carnage

Back — Crimson Tempest Icon Crimson Tempest

Ring — Dagger Specialization Icon Dagger Specialization

Ring — Nature Specialization Icon Nature Specialization

Mutilate Icon Mutilate will be the default choice for gloves thanks to recent changes that have reduced its energy cost to 40. It also synergizes incredibly well with the talent Opportunity Icon Opportunity as well as many of the other Runes we have chosen like Envenom Icon Envenom and Deadly Brew Icon Deadly Brew. Mutilate Icon Mutilate deals 20% additional damage to a target afflicted by a Poison while Envenom Icon Envenom and Deadly Brew Icon Deadly Brew also work to constantly apply more poisons.

Envenom Icon Envenom deals bonus damage to targets that are afflicted by Deadly Poison Icon Deadly Poison which Deadly Brew Icon Deadly Brew works constantly to apply. This also synergizes incredibly with Mutilate Icon Mutilate as it also deals more damage to a poisoned target. Between the Eyes Icon Between the Eyes is a great tool if you find yourself needing a ranged stun but deals considerably less damage and will not benefit from the other Runes we have chosen the same way Envenom Icon Envenom does.

Deadly Brew Icon Deadly Brew applies a stack of Deadly Poison Icon Deadly Poison anytime another poison is applied to the target, this scales incredibly well with other talents such as Mutilate Icon Mutilate and Envenom Icon Envenom which both deal additional damage against a target that is poisoned.

Poisoned Knife Icon Poisoned Knife acts as a nearly free source of damage and should be used on cool down. This ability refunds 5 energy per stack of Deadly Poison Icon Deadly Poison/Occult Poison I Icon Occult Poison I present on the target making it an incredibly cheap way to deal damage and generate a combo point. As Subtlety energy can certainly be an issue slowing our damage output so having an extra, nearly free way of dealing damage and generating combo points is a great choice compared to alternatives.

Master of Subtlety Icon Master of Subtlety increases your damage by 10% for 6 seconds after exiting stealth, this greatly strengthens our opener and turns Vanish Icon Vanish into a DPS cooldown. Also consider using Preparation Icon Preparation to reset your Vanish Icon Vanish cooldown for even more uptime on the Master of Subtlety Icon Master of Subtlety buff.

Honor Among Thieves Icon Honor Among Thieves allows us to generate a considerable amount of additional Combo Points in both parties and raids allowing for a much easier time maintaining our Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice buff and lets us cast considerably more Envenom Icon Envenoms throughout the duration of a fight. This talent also scales incredibly well with gear as the higher your groups chance the more Combo Points you will be generating throughout an encounter.

Carnage Icon Carnage increases damage dealt to targets with a bleed effect active on them by 20% and causes your Rupture Icon Rupture ability to heal you for 40% of the damage it deals. The damage bonus here is massive and with the addition of Sebacious Poison Icon Sebacious Poison we can focus on maintaining Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice and Rupture Icon Rupture as we only have two combo point finishers to focus on maintaining as opposed to three. As Subtlety we will have an even easier time keeping this active due to the emphasis put on re-stealthing and being able to apply Garrote Icon Garrote thanks to Preparation Icon Preparation and Elusiveness Icon Elusiveness.

Crimson Tempest Icon Crimson Tempest is a great way to deal damage to both single targets and groups of enemies. thanks to our pairing with Carnage Icon Carnage it makes this the default choice for dealing AoE damage. If you find yourself with Queensfall Icon Queensfall then it will also become a part of our single target rotation as it will now be automatically refreshed by its effect.

Dagger Specialization Icon Dagger Specialization and Nature Specialization Icon Nature Specialization greatly increases our chance to hit with Daggers and our Poisons. Dagger Specialization gives us 5 extra weapon skill which is a massive boost towards the 9% melee Hit cap required to hit bosses and allows us to itemize towards other stats. Nature Specialization increases the hit chance of our Poisons by 6% and while we are unlikely to reach the Spell Hit cap of 16% this is still a basically free increase to our DPS.

More engravings are likely to come out as we reach higher level caps so make sure to checkout our general Runes guide to get a better understanding of what all tools you have available to your Rogue.

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Notable Subtlety Rogue Talents

Opportunity Icon Opportunity greatly increases the damage dealt by your Mutilate Icon Mutilate ability. Mutilate Icon Mutilate benefits from any effect that benefits Backstab Icon Backstab unless otherwise stated.

Elusiveness Icon Elusiveness reduces the cooldown of your Vanish Icon Vanish and Blind Icon Blind abilities by 90 seconds. Pairing Vanish Icon Vanish and Master of Subtlety Icon Master of Subtlety allows for a considerable damage boost.

Preparation Icon Preparation instantly resets the cooldown of all other Rogue abilities. This can be used in a plethora of ways to either refresh the cooldown of a defensive ability such as Evasion Icon Evasion or Blind Icon Blind or push the damage by resetting your Vanish Icon Vanish cooldown allowing you to re-enter stealth and deal 10% more damage thanks to Master of Subtlety Icon Master of Subtlety.

Deadliness Icon Deadliness Increases your attack power by 10% while this is an incredibly simple talent it will greatly increase the damage you deal and makes gear scale even better when receiving an upgrade.

Relentless Strikes Icon Relentless Strikes causes your finishing moves to have a 20% chance per combo point spent to restore 25 energy. As Subtlety we do not have any major means of generating energy faster so any opportunity to generate additional energy is extremely important.

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Changelog

  • 03 Apr. 2025: Updated for Phase 8.
  • 07 Jul. 2024: Updated for Phase 4.
  • 02 Apr. 2024: Updated for Phase 3.
  • 11 Feb. 2024: Updated for Phase 2.
  • 15 Dec. 2023: Guide updated.
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