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Vengeance Demon Hunter Tank Spec, Builds, and Talents (Legion 7.1.5)

Last updated on Jan 10, 2017 at 17:01 by Vlad 127 comments

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General Information

On this page, we present the viable talent choices for Vengeance Demon Hunters in World of Warcraft Legion 7.1.5. We detail what each of the talents do and in which situations they should be taken.

The other pages of our Vengeance Demon Hunter guide can be accessed from the table of contents on the right.

About Our Reviewer

This guide has been reviewed and approved by Munkky, a respected Vengeance Demon Hunter theorycrafter.

1. Talent Choices

Level Choices
99 Abyssal Strike Abyssal Strike Agonizing Flames Agonizing Flames Razor Spikes Razor Spikes
100 Feast of Souls Feast of Souls Fallout Fallout Burning Alive Burning Alive
102 Felblade Felblade Flame Crash Flame Crash Fel Eruption Fel Eruption
104 Feed the Demon Feed the Demon Fracture Fracture Soul Rending ? Soul Rending
106 Concentrated Sigils ? Concentrated Sigils Sigil of Chains Sigil of Chains Quickened Sigils Quickened Sigils
108 Fel Devastation Fel Devastation Blade Turning Blade Turning Spirit Bomb Spirit Bomb
110 Last Resort Last Resort Demonic Infusion Demonic Infusion Soul Barrier Soul Barrier

Talents can be freely changed when out of combat and in a rested XP area (such as an inn or a capital city). Moreover, Tome of the Tranquil Mind Icon Tome of the Tranquil Mind and Codex of the Tranquil Mind Icon Codex of the Tranquil Mind can be used to temporarily allow players to change talents anywhere, as long as they are out of combat.

2. Tier 1 (Level 99) Talents

Abyssal Strike Abyssal Strike Agonizing Flames Agonizing Flames Razor Spikes Razor Spikes

Abyssal Strike Icon Abyssal Strike provides a large mobility boost, by giving you two extra Infernal Strike Icon Infernal Strikes per minute. This is a great option for fights where mobility is important, and it also provides a DPS increase (if you are using the Flame Crash Icon Flame Crash talent).

Razor Spikes Icon Razor Spikes is the best choice for burst single target and AoE damage, but it requires proper management to obtain the best results. If you do not wish to bother with this, then simply choosing Abyssal Strike Icon Abyssal Strike for the DPS component is viable.

Agonizing Flames Icon Agonizing Flames can be used for the movement speed increase, but we generally do not recommend taking this talent over either of the other two choices.

3. Tier 2 (Level 100) Talents

Feast of Souls Feast of Souls Fallout Fallout Burning Alive Burning Alive
  • Feast of Souls Icon Feast of Souls causes Soul Cleave Icon Soul Cleave to also place a 6-second HoT on you in addition to the instant healing it provides.
  • Fallout Icon Fallout causes the initial damage burst of Immolation Aura Icon Immolation Aura to have a chance of shattering Lesser Soul Fragments from enemies.
  • Burning Alive Icon Burning Alive causes your Fiery Brand Icon Fiery Brand to deal damage to the target every 2 seconds for its 8-second duration, and with each tick it spreads to another nearby target. Note that only the initial application of Fiery Brand can spread to other targets.

All three talents in this tier are viable, albeit in different situations.

Feast of Souls Icon Feast of Souls provides consistent healing, and it is the best option for survivability against a single target.

Against multiple targets, Fallout Icon Fallout can provide a strong AoE healing burst. The choice between this talent and Feast of Souls depends on how many enemies you are fighting, since the number of Lesser Soul Fragments you can get depends on how many enemies Immolation Aura Icon Immolation Aura can hit. Note that Fallout becomes much more valuable once you unlock the  Icon Painbringer artifact trait. Note that Fallout works well in conjunction with the Feed the Demon Icon Feed the Demon, Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb, and Soul Barrier Icon Soul Barrier talents for Soul Fragment generation in dungeons, which makes it practically a must-have have when using any of these talents.

Burning Alive Icon Burning Alive is the only talent on this tier that offers a DPS increase. It is, therefore, the best option in terms of increasing your DPS against multiple targets. Bear in mind that since Fiery Brand Icon Fiery Brand reduces the damage the target deals to you, spreading Fiery Brand to other targets also causes the damage reduction to spread, which can be very useful in AoE situations.

4. Tier 3 (Level 102) Talents

Felblade Felblade Flame Crash Flame Crash Fel Eruption Fel Eruption
  • Felblade Icon Felblade is an active ability with a 15-second cooldown (reduced by Haste) that charges your target and deals Fire damage to them. It generates 20 Pain, and using Shear Icon Shear has a chance to reset Felblade's cooldown.
  • Flame Crash Icon Flame Crash is a passive ability that causes your Infernal Strike Icon Infernal Strike to leave behind a Sigil of Flame Icon Sigil of Flame at the location where you land.
  • Fel Eruption Icon Fel Eruption is an active ability with a 30-second cooldown and which costs 10 Pain. It deals Chaos damage to your target, and stuns them for 2 seconds. Targets that are permanently immune to stuns (such as raid bosses) take 100% additional damage.

Felblade Icon Felblade is the best for learning and for survivability due to the Pain generation it provides. The charge is nice, however given that you already have Infernal Strike Icon Infernal Strike, it is not particularly impactful.

Flame Crash Icon Flame Crash is an AoE DPS increase, and is preferable for AoE situations. When taking this, Infernal Strike Icon Infernal Strike should always be used practically on cooldown, only saving charges for when movement is absolutely necessary. You will then continue to "weave" this with Sigil of Flame Icon Sigil of Flame in order to maximise the uptime of Sigil of Flame.

Fel Eruption Icon Fel Eruption provides the highest single target DPS increase in this tier, and if you are interested in that as opposed to survivability, it can be a good choice. If using Fel Eruption, it is a good idea to use it on cooldown and always time it for when the target is debuffed by Fiery Brand Icon Fiery Brand (since they take increased damage thanks to the  Icon Fiery Demise artifact trait).

5. Tier 4 (Level 104) Talents

Feed the Demon Feed the Demon Fracture Fracture Soul Rending ? Soul Rending
  • Feed the Demon Icon Feed the Demon is a passive ability that reduces the remaining cooldown of Demon Spikes Icon Demon Spikes by 1 second for each Soul Fragment you consume.
  • Fracture Icon Fracture is an active ability that deals Physical damage to your target and creates 2 Lesser Soul Fragments. Fracture costs 40 Pain.
  • Soul Rending Icon Soul Rending is a passive ability that grants you 50% Leech while Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis is active.

Feed the Demon Icon Feed the Demon is the go-to for survivability, for general use. It works well with the Fallout Icon Fallout talent in AoE situations, and provides a small uptime increase to Demon Spikes Icon Demon Spikes against a single target.

Fracture Icon Fracture is worth taking for survivability, if you use it to pool Soul Fragments prior to a big hit or for Soul Barrier Icon Soul Barrier. Aside from this, it will provide you with an increase in DPS. It also synergises well with the Razor Spikes Icon Razor Spikes talent.

Due to Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis having received a buff, this talent is not nearly as strong as the other two talents in this tier, and will see most of its use during Necrotic week of Mythic+ dungeons. This affects Metamorphosis,  Icon Fueled by Pain, and Last Resort Icon Last Resort.

6. Tier 5 (Level 106) Talents

Concentrated Sigils ? Concentrated Sigils Sigil of Chains Sigil of Chains Quickened Sigils Quickened Sigils
  • Concentrated Sigils Icon Concentrated Sigils passively causes all your Sigils to be targeted at your location, and increases the duration of their effects by 2 seconds.
  • Sigil of Chains Icon Sigil of Chains is an active ability with a 90-second cooldown. It places a sigil at the target location, which activates after 2 seconds. Any enemies located in the sigil area at that time are pulled to its center and snared, having their movement speed reduced by 70% for 6 seconds.
  • Quickened Sigils Icon Quickened Sigils passively causes all sigils to activate 1 second faster, and also reduces their cooldowns by 20%.

Quickened Sigils Icon Quickened Sigils should be your default choice in this tier, in both raids and dungeons.

Sigil of Chains Icon Sigil of Chains has good utility and it can work well to group up mobs for easier AoE damage. It is very strong in dungeons.

Concentrated Sigils Icon Concentrated Sigils can be the highest DPS option of the row when taken with Flame Crash Icon Flame Crash, as it gives you an extra tick per Sigil of Flame Icon Sigil of Flame. This should only be used when you do not need to place your sigils at range, generally only on bosses.

7. Tier 6 (Level 108) Talents

Fel Devastation Fel Devastation Blade Turning Blade Turning Spirit Bomb Spirit Bomb
  • Fel Devastation Icon Fel Devastation is an active channeled ability with a 1-minute cooldown and which costs 30 Pain. It deals Fire damage to enemies in front of you over 2 seconds (reduced by Haste), and dealing damage also heals you.
  • Blade Turning Icon Blade Turning passively causes your first Shear Icon Shear used after parrying an attack to generate 70% more Pain.
  • Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb is an active ability that throws a Soul Fragment at your target, damaging them and any other enemies around them. This also debuffs all affected targets for 20 seconds, causing you to heal yourself for 20% of any damage you do to them.

The choice in this tier is between Fel Devastation Icon Fel Devastation and Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb.

Fel Devastation Icon Fel Devastation provides the highest DPS gain in this tier, as well as good burst healing potential.

On the other hand, Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb has the potential to result in very high consistent healing, but doing so requires you to consistently use the ability and also deal high DPS in order to gain the healing benefit from it. It has a high skill cap. If you spend Soul Fragments on this ability, especially provided that you are using the Fallout Icon Fallout talent during AoE situations and in dungeons, you will see a DPS increase. This should only be done on content that is less challenging or when you do not need the survivability the other talents provide. Note that Spirit Bomb does not count as consuming a Soul Fragment, which means you will not get the healing from the Fragment, nor from  Icon Painbringer or  Icon Fueled by Pain.

Blade Turning Icon Blade Turning provides minimal Pain gain (which is higher during AoE situations). The resulting Pain can lead to a smoother damage intake, but we generally do not recommend this talent.

8. Tier 7 (Level 110) Talents

Last Resort Last Resort Demonic Infusion Demonic Infusion Soul Barrier Soul Barrier
  • Last Resort Icon Last Resort passively triggers Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis and returns you to 30% health if you take fatal damage. This effect can only occur once every 8 minutes, and it is not affected by the cooldown of your Metamorphosis (it will still trigger if Metamorphosis is on cooldown, and it does not trigger the cooldown when it procs). If Metamorphosis is active when Last Resort procs, its duration will simply be refreshed.
  • Demonic Infusion Icon Demonic Infusion is an active ability with a 2-minute cooldown that uses your Demon Spikes Icon Demon Spikes charges and then instantly recharges them, also generating 60 Pain in the process.
  • Soul Barrier Icon Soul Barrier is an active ability with a 30-second cooldown, which costs 30 Pain. You place a damage absorption shield on yourself that lasts for 12 seconds. Taking damage cannot fully consume the shield (there is a minimum amount below which it cannot go), and each time you consume a Soul Fragment while the shield is active, more damage absorption is added to it. Using Soul Barrier consumes all Soul Fragments within 25 yards.

The choice in this tier is largely preference-based. Consider the following points before making your decision.

Last Resort Icon Last Resort is a strong choice for progression content. It can save wipes and avoid using a combat res. You can also use it to avoid abilities, in some cases. Outside of progression raiding, however, you will not find much use for this talent.

Demonic Infusion Icon Demonic Infusion provides a DPS gain, when used in conjunction with Razor Spikes Icon Razor Spikes. It can also be used for Physical damage reduction, although once you acquire the 4-Part Tier 19 Set Bonus, this will not be as vital anymore.

Soul Barrier Icon Soul Barrier is viable and we consider it to be the best for fights with heavy Magic damage. For the best usage, you should use it in conjunction with Fracture Icon Fracture, Soul Carver Icon Soul Carver, and/or Fallout Icon Fallout to build Soul Fragments beforehand, which you can then use during Soul Barrier.

9. ChangeLog

  • 10 Jan. 2017: Changed Soul Barrier to a checkmark (no change to text) and added a mention that Abyssal Strike is a DPS increase when paired with the Flame Crash talent.
  • 09 Jan. 2017: Updated the talent descriptions to account for Patch 7.1.5 and also made various major changes to recommendations.
  • 06 Nov. 2016: Updated several talent evaluations (Soul Barrier, Last Resort, Spirit Bomb, Concentrated Sigils, Fracture, Agonizing Flames, Razor Spikes).
  • 25 Oct. 2016: Updated the Agonizing Flames, Spirit Bomb, and Soul Barrier descriptions and the Soul Barrier recommendation (slightly) to account for Patch 7.1 changes.
  • 19 Sep. 2016: Updated tier 7 talent discussion.
  • 04 Sep. 2016: Updated some talent discussions (tiers 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7).
  • 01 Sep. 2016: Made a few tweaks to talent recommendations (most notably tier 6).
  • 29 Aug. 2016: Updated for Legion's launch.
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