Subtlety Rogue DPS Amirdrassil Raid Guide — Season 4
On this page, you will find tips, tricks, and strategies tailored to your Subtlety Rogue for each boss of the following raid: Amirdrassil. All our content is updated for World of Warcraft — Season 4.
Introduction
Below, you can find class and spec-specific advice for every fight in Amirdrassil. If you are looking for a general overview of the Raid that is not spec-specific, check out our dedicated Amirdrassil, the Dream's Hope guides.
On this page, you will find tips and tricks specifically tailored toward Subtlety Rogues and its toolkit based on the recommended talent build. It does not include general tips for mechanics, which are included in the full raid guide instead, whereas this page assumes that you are already familiar with most of the major mechanics of each encounter.
Note: The following recommendations are based on preliminary PTR tests, and may have changed since the raid hit live. The information to be gained from PTR testing is typically very limited, but as the raid releases, you will be able to find more tips and tricks on this page for each of the bosses.
Talent Builds By Boss
Dragonflight Raid Talent Builds for Subtlety Rogue
Single Target and Cleave
The build above is your general single target talent tree. Note there is an Invigorating Shadowdust build that can be better for boss fights with damage amps by allowing you to fit more cooldowns into shorter windows. For more information, I would recommend visiting Ravenholdt.
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Sporadic Adds
This build simply swaps in Shuriken Tornado to help with AoE and Cleave. The Single Target focused build already plays the most useful cleave talent that Subtlety has ( Replicating Shadows) and this build also includes The First Dance to for a slight bump in low (2-3 target) cleave situations. With Black Powder being baseline, AoE is no longer a concern for Subtlety moving forward.
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Gnarlroot
Talents/Build
This is an add control and burst phase boss. Which talent set you pick is up to you, and which side of the boss your particular group will need more assistance with. The Cleave build is likely recommended. Depending on how difficult the adds in P1 are to deal with, the AoE build might be viable here. It remains to be seen whether it is worth committing cooldowns for the AoE phase of the boss, or to hold onto all cooldowns for the boss burst, especially as Subtlety Rogue sports one of the highest bursts in the game.
More thorough suggestions and recommendations will come as the raid opens, and strategies form.
Tips
More tips will be added as strategies emerge, and the author gets hands-on knowledge and experience.
For more information, please refer to our Gnarlroot guide.
Igira the Cruel
Talents/Build
This is functionally a single-target fight. The spears are too far apart to be within cleave or melee range.
Tips
Use Feint or Cloak of Shadows to mitigate the damage from Blistering Spear.
It was possible to Shadowstep to a friendly player to break the Blistering Spear tether effect, but this may no longer work on live servers.
More tips will be added as strategies emerge, and the author gets hands-on knowledge and experience.
For more information, please refer to our Igira guide.
Volcoross
Talents/Build
Single-target.
Tips
The direction of the knockback effect Flood of the Firelands is based on your position towards the center of the soak circle. Positioning yourself accordingly allows you to control the knockback direction. You can also use Shadowstep on another player to immediately cancel the knockback effect.
This is a fairly straightforward boss with no additional spec-specific tips (yet).
For more information, please refer to our Volcoross guide.
Council of Dreams
Talents/Build
This is a pure 2-target cleave situation for melee, so make sure you spec into Replicating Shadows
Tips
There seems to be very little spec-specific interactions for this fight.
Council is a cleave fight, and cleave fights are typically where Subtlety struggles. The best you can do to combat this shortcoming is making sure you have Replicating Shadows talented.
Make sure to prepare for having to soak Barreling Charge. Feint should work wonders here.
For more information, please refer to our Council of Dreams guide.
Larodar, Keeper of the Flame
Talents/Build
We highly recommend the cleave build on this encounter.
Tips
Optimizing DPS for this fight will heavily rely on the boss-timers. Unfortunately, during the PTR testing, the adds died way too quickly, making it impossible to give any concrete suggestions. We will update the guide once the boss has been available on live servers.
Rogue is a great class to soak the Blazing Coalescence orbs, as we benefit greatly from the increased crit-chance, while also being able to dispel ourselves using Cloak of Shadows. Thanks to our 100% movement speed sprint, we should be one of the go-to assignments for soaking on Larodar.
Make sure to have Feint ready for Raging Inferno..
For more information, please refer to our Larodar guide.
Nymue, Weaver of the Cycle
Talents/Build
This is a pure single-target encounter.
Tips
Crossing the lines of the Verdant Matrix can be done by using Shadowstep on a friendly target on the other side.
Yyou can also Shadowstep over Impending Loom beams; just make sure you do not land on a Verdant Matrix line.
For more information, please refer to our Nymue guide.
Smolderon
Talents/Build
Another pure single-target encounter.
Tips
Depending on how the encounter has changed, you might still be able to Cloak of Shadows the Cauterizing Wound debuff yourself. If Cloak does not work; remember that both Crimson Vial and Health Potions can help trigger the debuff on demand, if the absorb shield is already low enough.
During the intermission, you gain a 100% damage increase after soaking all five orbs of Devour Essence. Depending on the final timers of this mechanic, it might be worth saving cooldowns for a damage amplification phase.
For more information, please refer to our Smolderon guide.
Tindral Sageswift, Seer of the Flame
Talents/Build
Recommend playing the pure ST build for this fight, with Black Powder baseline and Secret Technique naturally cleaving there's not much more you would need to bring to deal with the roots. Note for Mythic: It is highly recommended you take Shuriken Tornado as root damage ends up being more important in Mythic, and will be much appreciated for the last phase.
Tips
Using Shadowstep on the Mass Entanglement is possible, but beware that on Mythic difficulty, it will spawn an add.
Make sure to have your cooldowns available for the intermission phases. The trickiest part of playing Subtlety Rogue on Tindral is ensuring the timings of your cooldown usage to ensure you have all your cooldowns up for the intermission shields. Soon this, and other bosses will be updated with timelines of when to time your vanishes for maximum damage opportunities.
For more information, please refer to our Tindral guide.
Fyrakk the Blazing
This fight was not available for testing on the PTR. Tips will be added as strategies emerge, and the author gets hands-on knowledge and experience.
For more information, please refer to our Fyrakk guide.
Changelog
- 22 Apr. 2024: Reviewed for Season 4
- 20 Mar. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.6.
- 15 Jan. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.5.
- 26 Dec. 2023: Updated to prepare for including CD usage on bosses.
- 06 Nov. 2023: Updated for Patch 10.2
- 07 May 2023: Page added.
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This guide has been written by Oxi, a life long Rogue player since early Classic. He is a Moderator in Ravenholdt, the official Rogue Class Discord. He also maintains the Ravenholdt website, and helps ensure that the Tricks of the Trade Rogue podcast runs smoothly.
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