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Hi guys! 

I have been playing HS for quite some time (1,5 yrs +/- I think) and I decided to make videos. I am not somehow good and I think that I should have hit legend if I am playing actively for some time but I have not.  Here comes the idea behind my videos. I want to hear an opinion from you to my plays, what I should mulligan or what I should not. You think about it, so do I and we can both move forward... and that is the spirit behind my channel. I just want to get better and that is (at least for me) one of the ways to improve it, because two heads > one head, right? I just want to hit legend and I feel like I often win just cuz I draw too good or the opponent draws too bad. Enough saying, I will post some videos =)

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUsRaxq9Ls4

For example RenoLock gameplay where is a lot of decision where I was not sure. Definetely check this out!

I will be posting more in the future

See you for now guys :)

 

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Wow I did not expect such a long response, but I am absolutely thankful for the things you come up with! 

Yep I am showing the deck list before the recording nowadays in the newer videos, so thats something that we dont have to discuss anymore.

Speaking part - yep I am trying to be louder, definitely something to take care about

I have a deck tracker already, Im just not capturing it ... should I? thats the question :D

I feel like I had to jarraxus asap and yep, playing soulfire into possible discarding key cards is not good.. I guess I was just kinda desperate :( 
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The homework thing sounds really interesting I have never thought it that way ... I have been watching a lot of Lifecoach streams recently and he is doing similar kind of stuff (guess even the same) so this is like first time I have met with it.

The control and beatdown definition looks very interesting.. I have been thinking about it, like not really much but I did realize that there matchups where are you either in position of the control or the aggresive deck, but I would say I never put it all together. I have read both articles, although I did not understand everything cuz I have never played magic but I guess I took the raw thought (not sure if it is the right use of words, but it works in my mother language lolz.).

I get it.. I should be able to tell my gameplan to every possible matchup before I go into regular game.. I was never really sure how to defeat the jade druis with reno decks, so thats probably why it went that wrong.

Last thing I want to say is that I am not offended at all. I appreciate your concern / time you basically invested to / for me so I could get somehow better. Thank you very much! I am surprised and glad :)

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Hey guys!!

Witch Doctor Shaman :O

I decided to try out something different cuz I was really tired of playing aggro shaman in the grinding phase and this is deck is really awesome I must say!

It is really good that there are people coming with these ideas, personally I would not think about these synergies! Definitely an upvote for you man! :)

Here is the video of me playing this one. I beat a jade shaman with a super awesome lethal, lol. I hope you enjoy this one ! :)

 

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On 1/28/2017 at 4:52 AM, JohnnyZ said:

Those are brilliant. I've only recently started thinking in terms like this, but like the author of the second article says, I didn't have a vocabulary. Any more recommended reading, plz

Yeah I agree! I would like to read more about this as well

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Hey guys!

I have played a tournament few days ago and I decided to bring this version of reno warlock and I would like to ask you guys for responds on my plays. I have posted reno lock before, so we can compare it with the previous video.

I tried to speed up or cut parts where I am not saying anything or doing anything to make it more comfortable to watch and also I wanted the video to be a little bit shorter.

In the video there are two matchups - the first one versus a pirate warrior, where things went kinda smooth and the second one, more interesting at least for me, versus a reno mage. I will write up my thoughts on the play that I may not mention in the video, although I tried to explain stuff alot.

link to video - 

 

 

link to deck - http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/730608-s35-day-3-legend-na-rank-1-legend-mrsoulds

I did not show in the video cuz I wanted it to do it purely about the gameplay (I hope it does not matter that it is from other site :X)

vs Pirate warrior :
Turn 7 - playing the vendor - maybe consider taping? Not sure in
this situation

There is not really much stuff I would change, so if u spot
something let me know!

vs Reno mage :

Mulligan - I think keeping doomsayer makes no sense, same goes
for faceless manipulator.. not sure about sylvanas tho, but
I think it is just too slow
Twilight drake is obvious keep

T3: Coining the dragon is right? I was not really sure about
that

T8: Is it right to play kazakus without brann in reno vs reno
matchup? I intented to play jarax next turn so it makes sense,
but im not sure as well

T10: Finally the biggest dilema for me.. Is it right to play
Jaraxus in this spot? I mean it worked in this scenario, but
I could get punished for that.. what are the other ways to win
tho?

I hope I can get some answers and some opinions :) Thank you in advance!

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Dragon Warrior

 

First match is versus pirate warrior which was kinda hard and I think I got a bit lucky. Not sure if I should have play / keep the finley cuz the fact it is a face warrior and I need the extra health by armor up.

Second match is versus zoo / demon lock which went to fatigue! Interesting match-up imo but I have won and got my golden grommash finally! <3

 

If you liked the video please consider subscribing to my channel! It keeps me going J

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Hey guys! I have not been posting something for a while so I am here with a small update :

just shortly - better webcam, better resolution and way more ! :D

The story

I was looking for a serious mage deck which includes something more than hitting face and I finally found it!

I present you Muzzys Discover / Gunther / Slow freeze - Mage ! I decided to name out all of the possible names this deck could have, because I am not too sure how to classify it :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrVNyXqg03g

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On 6/2/2017 at 6:43 PM, KadakHS said:

Hey guys! I have not been posting something for a while so I am here with a small update :

just shortly - better webcam, better resolution and way more ! :D

The story

I was looking for a serious mage deck which includes something more than hitting face and I finally found it!

I present you Muzzys Discover / Gunther / Slow freeze - Mage ! I decided to name out all of the possible names this deck could have, because I am not too sure how to classify it :/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrVNyXqg03g

While I am by no means an expert on gunther mage, I have put a fair few games in on it.  So here is my 2 cents.  

As far as the deck list is concerned, I would run Ice Barrier over Counterspell, just feels more useful to me.  I also run Meteor over Eater of Secrets, I personally feel that EoS is just too situational too be considered unless you are playing a ton of mages.  It does give you an easy out vs Eye for an Eye, which can be very problematic, but in general, it just feels too weak in too many match ups for my taste.  Not that you are wrong in running it, I just don't personally like it.

 

As far as the game play goes, Mulligan was fine, turns 1 and 2 were fine, turn 3 was a little questionable.  I think playing out an early ice block was the correct play, for several reasons.  One, it can be VERY awkward to get your secrets out when playing gunther mage, if you have a relatively free turn to do it, its generally a good idea, two more mana efficient (especially because you didn't have a 1 drop at the time to fill in your curve on 4), three if he presses the button and rolls a healing totem you just passed your turn, four if you draw a Medivh's Valet next turn, that is a very strong play, five you have a turn 5 Bloodmage Thalnos + Volcanic Potion to clear, six waiting that long isn't that bad since you really don't have a lot to play for him to get value and trade into, just a little more face damage, which is pretty irrelevant.  Also, having a turn 5 clear is very strong since you know he runs Bloodlust (the Primalfin Totem was a give-a-way).  The only way you are really punished hard here is if he plays Flametongue Totem, which is definitely a consideration.

 

Your turn four was fine, given the line of play you took, your turn five you had a few options, the Eater of Secrets + Babbling Book was definitely one, Ping/Bloodmage Thalnos + Ice Block was a second one, or bloodmage + ping + book.  I think all of them have their merits, getting the draw off of thalanos would have been really nice at this point since your hand is a little clunky, and getting a block in play is really nice, plus you are probably going to Flamestrike on turn 7, so I think I would have went with the thalanos+iceblock on this turn, and eater + ping next turn, I think the third option (ping + bloodmage + book) is the weakest since Maelstrom Portal is a thing.  Also, you should have definitely traded, since maelstrom, plus ping + eater next turn trades into it cleanly. 

 

Your turn six was fine, you were a little punished not having a block in play, the valet was an incredibly clean play into the  Mana Tide Totem (Plus you would have had a book to fill out the last mana slot).  Your turn 7 was fine, he got punished really hard by playing into Flamestrike, he definitely could have played that better.  Also, he probably shouldn't have played that devolve.

 

Your turn 8, you had a couple options, Primordial Glyph + Counterspell + Bloodmage Thalnos/ping  unless you got a better play off of glyph, but I ultimately think Firelands Portal on the Stonehill Defender was the right call, despite the it feels bad man feeling of using a 7 mana cost card to kill it.  The first play is something to consider though.

 

Your turn 9 was a bit awkward, first off, I think Polymorph was the superior choice over Fireball, should be hoarding your burn to try to finish this game if you can.  Plus most of what he is going to be playing threat wise should all die to the Fireball if you need more removal down the road.  You then could have either glyphed, or played Arcanologist with your counterspell or not played the counterspell and just pinged the sheep or played both, or the thalanos ofc.  I really feel like going for card draw or burn from the glyph was the right choice at this point. You only have one answer in your hand, used up both your AoE's, with the threat of blood lust, and the value his totems will be giving him you should really be looking towards building up a win con at this point in the game, letting it go on too much longer and you have a high possibility of just getting overwhelmed by a lust on a totem board you will have trouble clearing.

 

The rest of the game you played correctly.  He was running a rather odd deck, and I personally wouldn't bet on him having any healing, he had to have cut something out of the standard list to run some of those cards, plus getting your block popped the next turn was a real possibility and this could be the only chance you actually have to play Alexstrasza, yes hex would have sucked, but it had a high likelihood of being the only turn you would have had to play her.

 

All in all, you played the deck decently, but Gunther mage is one of those decks that really has no unfavored or favored match ups (except jade druid, that match up can burn it sucks for mage), which means that winning or losing the match is based heavily on how well you pilot the deck.  It is definitely a tier 1 deck at the moment, and if you like it, stick with it.  It is well worth learning to play well, but it is also one of the harder and more intricate decks to pilot.  If you are interested, here is a link to a trump teaches episode that goes over it 

Aside from that, godspeed on your climb to legend.

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Thank you for your long response! I am really glad that someone is taking the time and analyzing my plays, this is like the best part about doing the videos - you get the opinion of others on ur gameplay / gameplay.

One thing I cannot like agree with you is the usage of polymorph instead of fireballing the alakir.. I mean, yea I think I should keep the burn, but I kinda liked to keep the polymorph for some shenanigans but maybe I am just too afraid of nothing, I dont know.

Playing the alexstraza on the turn I did is definitely correct, tbh I did not connect these lines (the probability of getting popped etc. ) but in the end I managed to do it right.

One more time, Thank you for your post! I really appreciate it :)

I wanted to post something not that serious this time - 

I decided to try out this dragon deck my self and this video describes best the title - Frustration vs Satisfaction.

First game I was against a murloc paladin - just a short cuts how the game end in first three turns and I am getting kinda frustrated

The second game on the other hand is against a quest rogue, where I decided to keep the combo and be a little bit greedy but in the end it paid off and I was satisfied for defeating quest rogue!!

So check it out and if you will like the video definitely think about subscribing to my channel and liking the video! Thank you guys! :)

 

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Hello guys!

I tried this deck because I really like the handbuff mechanic and I saw stan playing on the stream so I decided to record video as well. I just cant explain how satisfying it is! The deck is extremely fun to play and it works like a charm. I would not expect for example card such a Corpsetaker to carry games on it self! So much fun! Really nice job Stan!

After some playing I got to my month goal - rank 5 with a 9-2 score which is 82% WR (small sample size but that was my run)

In the video you can see three various matchups (thanks to that the video is a bit logner than it used to be)

1) The most aggroish warlock ever with some interesting techs
2) Jade druid
3) Highlander priest - you can see the corpsetakers in action here :D

Thank you for watching guys and I hope you can enjoy the video at least as I did enjoy playing the deck! Have a nice day :)

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