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Kobolds & Catacombs Set Review: Rogue

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Rogue was already one of the strongest classes in KFT, but that didn't stop it from pickomg up two of the most powerful cards in the entire set.

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My Rating System

Each card is rated on a scale of 1 to 5 on two criteria: Power and Versatility.

The Power rating reflects how much I expect a card to impact the game when played. Cards which immediately represent multiple cards worth of value (Ultimate Infestation) or have a powerful effect on the board for their mana cost (Sunkeeper Tarim) will receive high Power ratings, while cards which have a low impact on the game (Ice Breaker) or cost too much for their effect (Furnacefire Colossus) will receive Power low ratings.

The Versatility rating is intended to communicate how dependent a card is on other cards for its success. Cards can be very powerful without being versatile at all (Clutchmother Zavas), which means that many exciting and powerful cards will end up seeing very little play once the metagame is established. A high Versatility rating means a card relies very little on other cards to be good, and the more comfortable I would feel crafting that card on day one. A lower Versatility rating doesn't necessarily reflect that I expect the card to be bad, but that I wouldn't feel comfortable crafting it until it has proven itself to be a part of a competitive deck.

Kobold Illusionist

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Fits into: Deathrattle decks

Power Versatility
2 1

Kobold Illusionist is capable of generating some serious value in dedicated Deathrattle decks, but it doesn't do nearly enough outside of these deck to earn widespread play. Though this card could be a great tool for Jade Rogue in combination with Aya Blackpaw and Jade Swarmer, my instincts say that it has too high of a setup cost.

Cheat Death

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Fits into: Combo Decks

Power Versatility
2 1

I don't really see the sense in paying two mana upfront for Shadowstep in anything but combo decks. Playing this into a Gadgetzan Auctioneer guarantees you access to a 4 mana Auctioneer on the following turn, but at that point, couldn't you have just played Auctioneer into Shadowstep to set that up anyways?

Sudden Betrayal

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Fits into: Combo and Midrange decks

Power Versatility
2 2

Everything about this card says that it wants to be in a defensive Rogue deck. This begs the question, how many defensive Rogue decks will there actually be in the K&C meta?

This card is certainly better than Betrayal in a handful of circumstances, but it doesn't seem very  difficult for an intelligent opponent to play around Sudden Betrayal if it ever becomes popular. Perhaps a combo deck like Miracle Rogue or a midrange deck like Jade Rogue can make use of this card, but I don't see it finding its way into aggressive or tempo-oriented decks anytime soon.

Cavern Shinyfinder

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Fits into: Weapon Rogue, Midrange Rogue

Power Versatility
4 3

Any Rogue deck with three or more weapons in it will be very happy to run Cavern Shinyfinder. The problem is, how many current Rogue decks are running three or more weapons? The answer right now is zero, but I'm optimistic that Cavern Shinyfinder can change that. Drawing a card from your deck and getting a 3/1 body for just two mana is such an excellent deal that this card might force its way into a variety of Midrange Rogue decks as part of a package with Shadowblade and Kingsbane, the new Rogue Legendary Weapon.

Elven Minstrel

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Fits into: Non-aggro decks

Power Versatility
5 4

Am I the only one who thinks this card is absolutely insane? Two minions and and 3/2 body for 4 mana is off the charts! If Ultimate Infestation was a soda, Elven Minstrel would be the diet version of that soda. Though this card is certainly not the most devastating of tempo plays in an aggresive deck, I have an extremely hard time believing that it won't have a serious impact on the upcoming meta. I'm looking forward to many months of Elven Minstrel memes on reddit.

Onyx Spellstone

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Fits into: Deathrattle Rogue

Power Versatility
2 1

The lesser verion of this card is absolutely dreadful on turn 5, but the normal version quite passable. I only start to become really interested in this card when it reaches its Greater version, but by then I would have needed to play 6 Deathrattle minions as this card rots away in my hand. It actually seems like a decent top deck in the late game when board states become easier to manipulate, but I seriously doubt that this card will be the reason that an underpowered archetype (Deathrattle Rogue) becomes a force to be reckoned with in the K&C.

Fal'dorei Strider

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Fits into: Midrange Rogue

Power Versatility
3 3

Getting just one 4/4 spider from this card makes it an extremely worthwhile investment, while getting two or three spiders will feel absolutely backbreaking. Decks that are looking to end the game right away probably won't have the time to draw into Ambush, but I see a nice home for this card Midrange-y Rogue decks that pack a modest amount of card draw. I don't think that Fal'dorei Strider immediately slots in to any of the existing Rogue decks, but have faith that the card is powerful enough to crop up in a variety of new-look Rogue decks throughout the K&C meta.

Evasion

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Fits into: Combo Decks

Power Versatility
3 1

Don't worry combo haters, this card isn't nearly as broken as Ice Block.  I'm very excited to test this out in Miracle Rogue decks as a way to buy time for Valeera the Hollow, but I hardly expect it to revive that archetype all on its own. It plays pretty with Sudden Betrayal, as these two Rogue secrets demand virtually opposite attacks from the opponent, but I don't think Combo decks can afford to waste precious deck slots on both of these secrets in order to facilitate that synergy.

Kingsbane

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Fits into: Weapon Rogue

Power Versatility
4 1

Is the age of Doomerang and Runeforge Haunter finally upon us? The best of friends with Cavern Shinyfinder, Kingsbane is certainly powerful enough to give the Weapon Rogue archetype some hope in K&C.

Kingsbane probably isn't powerful enough to be run in a deck without Cavern Shinyfinder, Envenom Weapon, and Leeching Poison, and my primary concern with a dedicated weapon deck is that it is forced to run a significant number of cards that underwhelming on their own (such as the aforementioned Leeching Poison). I tend to gravitate towards decks which find ways to make good cards better, not bad cards good. Despite the obvious power level of Kingsbane, I'm not very optimistic that a Weapon Rogue deck will make a splash on the competitive ladder.

Sonya Shadowdancer

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Fits into: Everything

Power Versatility
5 5

My personal pick for "most obviously powerful card of the set", I struggle to envision a single Rogue deck which isn't interested in running Sonya Shadowdancer. It's downside is virtually the same as Edwin VanCleef's, while it's upside is completely through the roof. Getting just one trigger off this card will make it worth your while, anything beyond that is gravy. BonemareVilespine Slayer, and Elven Minstrel are obvious combos with Sonya, but so is virtually every Jade card ever printed and pretty much anything with a decent Battlecry or Deathrattle ability. I fully expect Sonya to be an auto-include in every Rogue deck under the sun.

Thoughts on the Class

Tempo Rogue currently holds the title of "top deck in the format", but the majority other Rogue decks in KFT are quite underwhelming. What I love about the new Rogue cards in K&C is that outside of Sonya Shadowdancer, none of them feel like obvious additions to Tempo Rogue. I expect the addition of Rogue secrets to make a much smaller impact on the meta than Blizzard probably would have hoped for, but am optimistic that cards like Elven Minstrel, Fal'dorei Strider, and Cavern Shinyfinder will be able to birth a variety of new-look Midrange Rogue lists.

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35 minutes ago, Aleco said:

I don't really see the sense in paying two mana upfront for Shadowstep in anything but combo decks. Playing this into a Gadgetzan Auctioneer guarantees you access to a 4 mana Auctioneer on the following turn, but at that point, couldn't you have just played Auctioneer into Shadowstep to set that up anyways?

Cheat Death lets you trigger a deathrattle twice (and play a deathrattle minion twice), and it does seem like this set is pushing deathrattles for rogues some more with this set.

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2 hours ago, Aleco said:

Playing this into a Gadgetzan Auctioneer guarantees you access to a 4 mana Auctioneer on the following turn, but at that point, couldn't you have just played Auctioneer into Shadowstep to set that up anyways?

This card slows the opponent down. If they killed the "target" of the secret once, they are likely to do it again the next turn. This is great for taunts against aggro decks, or for high-statted minions that are hard to remove, like Edwin VanCleef. The reason why I believe it is not going to see much is that the decks that would take advantage of the aforementioned advantage of the secret do not usually run Shadowstep, and the ones that do run it would definitely prefer it over the secret. 

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2 hours ago, Aleco said:

 

Elven Minstrel

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Fits into: Non-aggro decks

Power Versatility
5 4

Am I the only one who thinks this card is absolutely insane? Two minions and and 3/2 body for 4 mana is off the charts! If Ultimate Infestation was a soda, Elven Minstrel would be the diet version of that soda. Though this card is certainly not the most devastating of tempo plays in an aggresive deck, I have an extremely hard time believing that it won't have a serious impact on the upcoming meta. I'm looking forward to many months of Elven Minstrel memes on reddit.

 

You are in the minority here, most people are only tentatively optimistic about this card. Good in a vacuum, but not in the current meta. With K&C pushing even more toward "Big" decks, the prevalent thought is "If it ain't broken, don't fix it!" and ignore K&C as a whole as a Rogue.

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11 hours ago, Aleco said:

 

Sonya Shadowdancer

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Fits into: Everything

Power Versatility
5 5

My personal pick for "most obviously powerful card of the set", I struggle to envision a single Rogue deck which isn't interested in running Sonya Shadowdancer. It's downside is virtually the same as Edwin VanCleef's, while it's upside is completely through the roof. Getting just one trigger off this card will make it worth your while, anything beyond that is gravy. BonemareVilespine Slayer, and Elven Minstrel are obvious combos with Sonya, but so is virtually every Jade card ever printed and pretty much anything with a decent Battlecry or Deathrattle ability. I fully expect Sonya to be an auto-include in every Rogue deck under the sun.

 

I've been agreeing with most of your ratings so far, but did a double take when i read this review. This card is like the love child of Cult Master and Shadow Caster, and it has the downsides of those cards: You have to have a board of minions you want to kill off/duplicate. Anytime you are behind this will be a dead card. I do think this card will see some play, i highly doubt it will be "auto-include" in any decks.

Does a tempo rogue deck want to play a 3 mana 2/2 in order to extract more value? Seems like that deck will want to play bigger minions in order to kill the opponent faster, or play something reactive to help clean up the opposing board. Maybe this has a place in Jade decks, but not sure what else...

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12 hours ago, Aleco said:

Elven Minstrel

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Fits into: Non-aggro decks

Power Versatility
5 4

Am I the only one who thinks this card is absolutely insane? Two minions and and 3/2 body for 4 mana is off the charts! If Ultimate Infestation was a soda, Elven Minstrel would be the diet version of that soda. Though this card is certainly not the most devastating of tempo plays in an aggresive deck, I have an extremely hard time believing that it won't have a serious impact on the upcoming meta. I'm looking forward to many months of Elven Minstrel memes on reddit.

As I mentioned in another spot, this isn't 4 mana.   This is "4 mana and a previously played card on this turn".    In other words it's not going to be a turn 4 play most of the time, having the coin or prep or such will be the exception and not the rule.     It's absolutely brutal for tempo in one of the most tempo dependant classes.   

Compare this to Xaril (no combo requirement, gives 2 decent spells), or Jade Spirit (no combo requirement, puts 2 creatures in play with a "levelup" to your Jade mechanic).   It's good, sure, but it's not brokenly good or an autoinclude by any stretch.

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34 minutes ago, Migol said:

As I mentioned in another spot, this isn't 4 mana.   This is "4 mana and a previously played card on this turn".    In other words it's not going to be a turn 4 play most of the time, having the coin or prep or such will be the exception and not the rule.     It's absolutely brutal for tempo in one of the most tempo dependant classes.   

Compare this to Xaril (no combo requirement, gives 2 decent spells), or Jade Spirit (no combo requirement, puts 2 creatures in play with a "levelup" to your Jade mechanic).   It's good, sure, but it's not brokenly good or an autoinclude by any stretch.

This card is not meant for tempo rogue, it will most likely shine in miracle rogue with Faldorei Strider.

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4 hours ago, Migol said:

As I mentioned in another spot, this isn't 4 mana.   This is "4 mana and a previously played card on this turn".    In other words it's not going to be a turn 4 play most of the time, having the coin or prep or such will be the exception and not the rule.

The card is 4 mana. What I assume you are thinking of is usually referred to as a "4-drop", ie. a card played on turn 4 or with 4 mana, which this card is indeed not, in most cases, anyway, just as you say.

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2 hours ago, positiv2 said:

The card is 4 mana. What I assume you are thinking of is usually referred to as a "4-drop", ie. a card played on turn 4 or with 4 mana, which this card is indeed not, in most cases, anyway, just as you say.

The card is 4 mana yes.   If played as a 3/2 for 4 mana.    The combo mechanic adds an additional cost if you want any more from it, even if it's not a cost in mana.   

/glares at semanticpenguin

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12 hours ago, Migol said:

The card is 4 mana yes.   If played as a 3/2 for 4 mana.    The combo mechanic adds an additional cost if you want any more from it, even if it's not a cost in mana.   

/glares at semanticpenguin

The cards that would be used to combo it have a value of their own, so unless you are forced to use them suboptimally or to add subpar cards to make the combo more reliable to trigger (such as Counterfeit Coin), I wouldn't call it consider it as extra or indirect costs. But yeah, that's just semantics. Anyway, I agree with you - it's a good card, but the combo requirement and the potential tempo loss if played on curve are huge drawbacks of the card, which makes it unusable in many decks.

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      Looking ahead, we want to continue celebrating personal successes and milestones for all you dedicated Hearthstone players. Our next major update will introduce some really cool new portraits that you can earn by earning 1,000 wins with each class. Wins earned before this update goes live will retroactively count towards these totals. Take a look at a couple of examples below and start stacking up those wins!



      Quality of Life Improvements
       
      Alternate Search Terms
      We want it to be easier to quickly find the cards you’re looking for while deckbuilding, so we’re adding alternate search terms for some hard-to-type cards. We’ll be adding common misspellings and simplified versions of leetspeak card names (found on some Mech minions). For example, searching “snip” or “snap” will now show you SN1P-SN4P. While this feature will only be enabled for a few commonly misspelled cards at first, we’ll be able to add even more alternate search terms as needed.
      This feature will also support languages other than English. For example, SN1P-SN4P in Latin American Spanish is “CL1C-CL4C”, so searching “clic” would return the expected results. Quest Changes
      While not included in our next major update, here’s a preview of some of the changes we’re making to quests a little further down the line.
      We’re cutting some of the less popular daily quests and tuning down some of their requirements to make them quicker and easier to complete. We’ll also be adding some new quests to the pool to mix things up! We split most daily quests into two buckets: Easy (50g) and Slightly More Difficult (60g). Rerolling a Slightly More Difficult (60g) quest (like Play 10 Beasts) always gives you an Easy (50g) quest, so players can be guaranteed to get an Easy quest every day if they want. We love  Murlocs and Pirates as much as anyone, but it should be your choice if you decide to complete their quests.
      We’re excited to be bringing these new features, events, and other changes to Hearthstone soon. Please let us know what you think on social media or the official Hearthstone forums. Until then, we’ll see you in the Tavern!
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