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If you prepurchased the entire Dalaran Heist adventure, then you already own Zayle. For a lot of people, though, this neutral Legendary card will become available this week, after clearing up Chapter 5.

You do not need to complete all wings of the adventure, you just have to own them to get Golden Zayle, Shadow Cloak.

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You can already craft the normal (non-Golden) version of the card with 1600 Arcane Dust.

Zayle works like Whizbang the Wonderful. He will give you 5 premade decks: they are all themed after the 5 members of the League of E.V.I.L. Since Zayle is Golden, all decks will be entirely Golden too!

Here are the five decks that Zayle provides:

Silence Priest

Tempo Rogue

Control Shaman

Plot Twist Warlock

Bomb Warrior

Lastly, Peter Whalen that Zayle decks will be updated after the rotation next year.

 

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The question is, are those decks decent? I have fun and enough sucess playing with Wizzbang for it to be my favorite way to play Casual ATM.

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IMO the bomb-warrior is badly designed.

No Shield Slam and Brawl ? WTF?

No Omega Devastator?

No Warpath?

How are you supposed to stay alive?

Quite sad that Blizzard seems to have no idea how the best decks should look like.

That they cannot design great decks of their own - ok.

But why can't they just take a look at a meta-tier list and copy those decks?

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11 hours ago, WedgeAntilles said:

But why can't they just take a look at a meta-tier list and copy those decks?

Because, you know, maybe, possibly, potentially... their ultimate goal is for you to buy more packs? A Zayle/Whizbang letting you play meta-competitive decks goes against that. 

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37 minutes ago, Sarasin said:

But these cards (in the decks) can't possibly be used in Constructed? O.o

Only if you happen to have them in your collection. The whole point of Zayle (and Whizbang the Wonderful before it) is to let you play various decks which you do not have the cards to build.

 

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9 hours ago, Keizoku said:

Because, you know, maybe, possibly, potentially... their ultimate goal is for you to buy more packs? A Zayle/Whizbang letting you play meta-competitive decks goes against that. 

Because if 2 out of 5 games is with a Tier 1 deck you can't really play meta?

What do you do the other 3 out of 5 times?

Yeah, that seems to be an awesome way to climb the ladder. Not.

 

If you give player the "real" bomb-warrior, maybe people would enjoy it. And since no one wants to start 5 games to be able to play bomb-warrior just once (statistically), they may even build the deck for real.

This way they play bomb-warrior, realize the deck sucks and won't ever craft it.

If you want to make somebody hot for something, you need to give him good stuff. Not something "meh". Ever thought about that?

 

Edit: To clear some confusion: I do not want 5 tier 1 decks. But if they use a Tier 1 deck like Bomb-Warrior, it is stupid to make it bad by leaving out very important cards.

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35 minutes ago, WedgeAntilles said:

To clear some confusion: I do not want 5 tier 1 decks. But if they use a Tier 1 deck like Bomb-Warrior, it is stupid to make it bad by leaving out very important cards.

No it isn't. It is bait: a carefully tought out 'freebie' meant to trigger people's interest and compulsive-addiuctive behaviour and invest money into the game to get 'the complete thing', whatever it is. That's basically the entire concept behind free-to-play/loot boxes, and the so-called gacha games.

And that works really, really well.

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17 hours ago, Keizoku said:

No it isn't. It is bait: a carefully tought out 'freebie' meant to trigger people's interest and compulsive-addiuctive behaviour and invest money into the game to get 'the complete thing', whatever it is. That's basically the entire concept behind free-to-play/loot boxes, and the so-called gacha games.

And that works really, really well.

I can just speak for myself, but this way doesn't work for me.

Demo-Versions that consisted e.g. of the first level (out of 10) but had no other barriers worked great for me. I played several of those. I played the first level, realized it was a great game and bought it.

Other Demos had more barriers. It had the first level AND you couldn't do several things. Never worked for me. I didn't care that the full game would have more functions. The version I played sucked -> deinstalled nearly all of those very fast, bought next to no game.

 

Back to Blizzard: If they present us with 1 or 2 out of 5 meta-decks, this means we can't really play the meta. Because way too often we get another deck. But we can see if we like the bomb-warrior. And if we do like him we want to play him. Not every fifth game. -> We craft the deck.

This way we play bomb-warrior. See it sucks. And never bother to craft it.

 

Being behind a "you have a 20% chance to get the deck" barrier is enough. Making the deck suck more will - IMO - not result in more sold card packs.

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3 hours ago, WedgeAntilles said:

I can just speak for myself, but this way doesn't work for me

Congratulations! Now consider you are just one individual, and that Blizzard (or any other successful developer) will pay people (a lot) to study the market and put in place strategies that will be the most appealing to and maximize their gains with their target demographic. And their target demographic is the minority of whales willing to spend fortunes on microtransactions that account for the majority of their income; not you (or me either, for the matter).

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4 hours ago, Keizoku said:

Congratulations! Now consider you are just one individual, and that Blizzard (or any other successful developer) will pay people (a lot) to study the market and put in place strategies that will be the most appealing to and maximize their gains with their target demographic. And their target demographic is the minority of whales willing to spend fortunes on microtransactions that account for the majority of their income; not you (or me either, for the matter).

Are those the same people who advised them how they should handle the last Blizzcon?

All you say is just YOUR opinion why Blizzard created the decks the way they did. That just as a small thing to consider. It is YOUR guess. Yeah, it COULD be correct. I do not deny this.

But please do not claim  to know everything about Blizzard when you are just guessing.

 

Oh, and why do companies go different ways with demos by the way? If it is SO OBVIOUS that there is only one correct way? Are all the others complet idiots?

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1 hour ago, WedgeAntilles said:

But please do not claim  to know everything about Blizzard when you are just guessing.

Oh, please! Open a book on marketing and educate yourself instead of throwing a temper tantrum when people point out the most obvious things out to you, you whiny entitled crybaby!

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So - if you start the game with Zayle, you get to discover a deck, or will you just get one (out of the five)? Regardless - Do you keep your Hero power as is, or does it change?

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20 hours ago, Sarasin said:

So - if you start the game with Zayle, you get to discover a deck, or will you just get one (out of the five)? Regardless - Do you keep your Hero power as is, or does it change?

You do not discover the deck, it is picked at random, exactly like with Whizbang the Wonderful. You do not keep your hero power, instead you get the hero power and standard portrait which correspond to the class of the pre-made deck which was picked (same as with Whizbang again).

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