Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds — Midnight Pre-Patch (12.0.1)
Choosing the right PvP and PvE talents is a prerequisite to proper performance in PvP. This guide goes through the various talent choices available to you as a Subtlety Rogue and gives you the best combinations you can take.
This page is part of our Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide.
Regular Talents for Subtlety Rogues
There is one viable talent build as Subtlety. It features all the
talents that empower finishing moves in order to have powerful burst damage
during Shadow Dance, especially with
Shadow Blades active.
Build Highlights
This build emphasizes the damage of your finishing moves -
Eviscerate and
Secret Technique. Multiple talents are picked to specifically make those spells more powerful. The goal is to have decent sustained damage with
Eviscerate and
Secret Technique. Below are important talent choices you take as a Subtlety Rogue.
Survivability
Nimble Fingers reduces the energy cost of
Feint and
Crimson Vial. This allows you to use important defensives when you need to without having to worry about pooling Energy.
Evasion increases your dodge chance by 100% for 10 seconds. This is one of your primary defensive cooldowns. Strong against physical burst damage.
Cloak of Shadows - Removes harmful magic effects and grants temporary magic immunity. One of Rogue’s strongest defensive cooldowns against enemies with magic damage.
Elusiveness if what makes
Evasion and
Feint so strong. This reduces damage you take by 20% while
Evasion is active and
Feint reduces damage you take by 20%. If you are able to use
Feint before enemies try to deal damage to you, this should keep you alive.
Feint is an incredibly important defensive for Subtlety Rogue's. This ability is buffed from several talents, such as
Nimble Fingers,
Elusiveness, and
Preemptive Maneuver.
Crowd Control
Gouge incapacitates an enemy for 4 seconds. This is important to help extend crowd control chains on enemy players.
Blind disorients an enemy for 5 seconds. This is typically used on enemy healers and you can follow this up with a
Sap if you use
Vanish and the enemy healer drops combat.
Damage
Shadow Dance is the core spell for Subtlety Rogues. This allows you to use
Stealth abilities and grants all the combat benefits of stealth. There are many spells that buff this spell in the Subtlety Rogue talent tree:
Shot in the Dark gives you a free
Cheap Shot after using
Vanish or
Shadow Dance. Use this to setup crowd control on enemy healers or kill targets.
Master of Shadows and
Fade to Nothing give you extra energy and movement speed when
Shadow Dance is active.
Shadow Focus,
Dark Shadow,
Death Perception,
The Rotten,
Shadowcraft, and
Danse Macabre all increase your overall damage output while
Shadow Dance is active.
Eviscerate is empowered by
Shadowed Finishers, increasing its damage by 30% as Shadow. Because Shadow damage is magic, this part ignores armor.
Dark Brew increases that part of the damage by 10%.
Veiltouched increases it by another 5%.
Finality allows every second Eviscerate to be buffed by another 15% (Finality is halved in PvP combat). And finally,
Deeper Daggers further empowers the Shadow damage
part by 8%. Add to that the modifiers that empower finishing moves, such as
Deeper Stratagem and
Secret Stratagem, as well as the modifiers that increase damage on your goes, such as
Dark Shadow, and you have a very powerful
Eviscerate.
Relentless Strikes is a passive, that guarantees your finishes restore 5 Energy per Combo Point spent.
Hero Talents
Deathstalker is a great pick for Subtlety. Since
Shadowstrike is one of your main abilities you will not have to think
to apply
Deathstalker's Mark, it will come naturally with your rotation.
The talents
Ethereal Cloak and
Shadewalker give
you more survivability and mobility respectively. But the reason why this
Heroic Talent tree is good is the last talent,
Darkest Night. When it
is available your next
Eviscerate will deal massive damage. Plus,
during
Shadow Blades, since you generate full Combo Points every time
you use a builder, you might be able to trigger Darkest Night rapidly
which will make your burst very deadly. And last, the talent
Lingering Darkness will grant you extra Shadow damage once Shadow
Blades expires. That means you can burst your target with Shadow Blades,
and once your kill attempt is over you will be able to burst them again with
Lingering Darkness on the next kill attempt since your
Secret Technique deals Shadow damage (and part of Eviscerate does as well).
PvP Talents for Subtlety Rogues
You can choose three of the following PvP talents; each has uses, but some are better for certain strategies than others. The top three choices are the most useful but can be replaced with other PvP talents depending on your team's goal.
Mandatory PvP Talents
Smoke Bomb creates a smoke cloud around you. Enemy players who are
outside the cloud will not be able to target anyone inside it. This talent
is mandatory for multiple reasons. Firstly, it can help you land a kill by
stunning a target when they have no trinket. By using Smoke Bomb right after
the stun, you will prevent the healer from saving their teammate. Secondly, you
can use it defensively to save yourself or an ally from a lethal cast
about to go off, such as
Greater Pyroblast. And lastly, you can use it
to prevent incoming crowd control on you or your team if such crowd control
would result in you losing a game, such as a
Polymorph or
Repentance on your healer when they have no trinket, and you are low on
health. As you can see, this talent is helpful in many different situations,
which is why it is so powerful. Note that, as Subtlety, the cooldown is only
2 minutes.
Preemptive Maneuver is a solid defensive option as it makes
Feint reduce the damage you take even more when stunned, and reduces its energy cost.
Situational PvP Talents
Dismantle is a strong PvP talent that allows you to disarm an enemy for 6s every 45s. It is a great pick against Warriors, Hunters, and Rogues. Disarming an enemy can delay their next kill attempt or stop it entirely if they have pulled the trigger.
Thief's Bargain is a PvP talent with a lot of potential. Having
Vanish more often means you can survive more or set up more for your team. Alongside the talent
Without a Trace that gives you a second Vanish you have it very, very often! Do keep the damage penalty in mind when using it though.
Thick as Thieves is a strong PvP talent when playing a setup comp
with an ally with very high burst. With this, you can further amplify their
burst damage by 15% for 6s, which can be the reason why the target dies. The
downside of this talent is that you have to spend a point in
Tricks of the Trade, something you don't necessarily want to do.
Changelog
- 10 Feb. 2026: Updated talent descriptions.
- 09 Feb. 2026: Updated talent tree for 12.0.1.
- 23 Jan. 2026: Updated recommended talents.
- 19 Jan. 2026: Updated for Midnight Pre-Patch.
- Updated recommended talents.
- Updated talent descriptions.
- Updated PvP talents.
- 30 Nov. 2025: Reviewed for Patch 11.2.7.
- 05 Oct. 2025: Reviewed for Patch 11.2.5.
- 04 Aug. 2025: Reviewed for Patch 11.2.
- 15 Jun. 2025: Reviewed for Patch 11.1.7.
- 21 Apr. 2025: Reviewed for Patch 11.1.5.
- 24 Feb. 2025: Updated for The War Within Season 2.
- 15 Dec. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 11.0.7.
- 21 Oct. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 11.0.5.
- 09 Sep. 2024: Reviewed for The War Within Season 1.
- 21 Aug. 2024: Updated for The War Within Season 1.
- 23 Jul. 2024: Updated for The War Within Prepatch.
- 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
- 22 Apr. 2024: Updqted for Dragonflight Season 4.
- 18 Mar. 2024: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.2.6.
- 15 Jan. 2024: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.2.5.
- 06 Nov. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.2.
- 04 Sep. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.1.7.
- 10 Jul. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.1.5.
- 30 Apr. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.1.
- 21 Mar. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.0.7.
- 25 Jan. 2023: Updated for Dragonflight Patch 10.0.5.
- 11 Dec. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 22 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.
- 28 Jul. 2022: Reviewed for Shadowlands Season 4.
- 31 May 2022: Reviewed for Patch 9.2.5.
- 23 Feb. 2022: Updated for Patch 9.2.
- 10 Nov. 2021: Updated Tier 2 Talent.
- 06 Oct. 2021: Updated Tier 3 Talent.
- 21 Jul. 2021: Updated Tier 3 Talent.
- 04 Jul. 2021: Updated for Patch 9.1.
- 28 Mar. 2021: Rewritten by Shadenox and updated for Patch 9.0.5.
- 18 Mar. 2021: No Updates Made for Patch 9.0.5
- 05 Dec. 2020: Updated Talent Table.
- Updated Tier 6 Regular Talent.
- 27 Oct. 2020: Updated Talent Table.
- Updated Tier 2 Regular Talent.
- 14 Oct. 2020: Updated for Shadowlands pre-patch.
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