Subtlety Rogue PvP Talents and Builds (Shadowlands / 9.0.2)
Choosing the right PvP and PvE talents is a prerequisite to proper performance in PvP. This guide goes through the various talent choices available to you as a Subtlety Rogue and gives you the best combinations you can take.
This page is part of our Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide.
Regular Talents for Subtlety Rogues
|15||✘ Weaponmaster||✔ Premeditation||✘ Gloomblade|
|25||✔ Nightstalker||✘ Subterfuge||✘ Shadow Focus|
|30||✘ Vigor||✘ Deeper Stratagem||✔ Marked for Death|
|35||✘ Soothing Darkness||✘ Cheat Death||✔ Elusiveness|
|40||✘ Shot in the Dark||✘ Night Terrors||✔ Prey on the Weak|
|45||✘ Dark Shadow||✘ Alacrity||✔ Enveloping Shadows|
|50||✔ Master of Shadows||✘ Secret Technique||✘ Shuriken Tornado|
While the above table provides a generally accurate overview of the viability of talents, some finer points are discussed in the sections that follow, and we recommend you read those for a deeper understanding.
Tier 1 (Level 15) Talents
Tier 2 (Level 25) Talents
Nightstalker is the best choice in this tier. This talent will make Shadow Dance an even stronger cooldown. The increased damage and control you have while Shadow Dance is active make Subtlety Rogues very powerful.
Tier 3 (Level 30) Talents
Marked for Death is the best choice in this tier. This can be used in many different ways. You can use Marked For Death and get a full Kidney Shot on your kill target or for crowd control. You can also use it aggressively for Eviscerate on an enemy with low health.
Tier 4 (Level 35) Talents
Elusiveness is an all-around solid choice, and the best talent in this tier. Just make sure to use Feint when you are the focus for the enemy team. You want to try to time it so you use Feint right before a stun on you.
Tier 5 (Level 40) Talents
Prey on the Weak is the best choice in this tier. This is a damage increase to you and your teammates. Because your kill target will most likely be stunned, this is an important damage increase to have when securing a kill.
Tier 6 (Level 45) Talents
Enveloping Shadows is the best choice in this tier. This makes it so you can not only reduce the cooldown of Shadow Dance, but you get a second charge of it as well. This is crucial to maximizing your control and damage throughout an arena match.
Tier 7 (Level 50) Talents
Master of Shadows is the best choice in this tier. This will allow you to regenerate Energy quicker while you are in Stealth or while Shadow Dance is active, increasing your sustained damage.
PvP Talents for Subtlety Rogues
You can choose 3 of the following PvP talents. Each of them has their uses, but some are better for certain strategies than others. The top three choices are the most useful, but can be replaced with other PvP talents depending on your team's goal.
Mandatory PvP Talents
Smoke Bomb creates a cloud around you. Enemy players who are outside the cloud will not be able to target anyone inside of it. This talent is mandatory for multiple reasons. The first is to land a kill while your target is stunned without a trinket. The enemy healer will not be able to heal and you will easily secure a kill while Smoke Bomb is active. The second is to stop incoming spells. This is not done often, but you can use Smoke Bomb on your healer to prevent enemies from crowd controlling them. It all depends on the situation, which is why this PvP talent is so good.
Shadowy Duel places you and the enemy you cast this on in a duel. You can only interact with each other and no one else for 8 seconds. This talent should be chosen if you want additional crowd control.
Situational PvP Talents
- 05 Dec. 2020: Updated Talent Table.
- Updated Tier 6 Regular Talent.
- 27 Oct. 2020: Updated Talent Table.
- Updated Tier 2 Regular Talent.
- 14 Oct. 2020: Updated for Shadowlands pre-patch.
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