Vengeance Demon Hunter Tank Guide — Dragonflight 10.0.7
Welcome to our Vengeance Demon Hunter guide for World of Warcraft — Dragonflight 10.0.7. Here, you will learn how to tank as a Vengeance Demon Hunter in both raids and Mythic+ dungeons. We cover everything from the basics all the way to min-maxing techniques to optimize your survivability.
Vengeance Demon Hunter Overview
Demon Hunters are the kings of mobility in raids and dungeons. In general,
they can move around more and more quickly than many other specs, thanks to
Infernal Strike, as well as various talents that aid their mobility.
Additionally, they excel at burst AoE damage, with many abilities dealing
AoE and cleave damage. They also excel at dungeon utility with their sigils.
Vengeance Demon Hunter gameplay features a mix between healing and damage mitigation, with low-cost but low-uptime of active mitigation, the ability to mitigate magic damage well, and extremely high burst healing potential.
Strengths and Weaknesses
One of the highest mobility specs in the game.
Great utility for Mythic+.
High damage output.
Room for lots of optimization with
Frailty applications.
Great sustain with self-healing and leech.
Provides unique magic debuff.
Needs specific talent choices to deal competent damage beyond 5 targets.
Too many good talents that you do not have the talent points to take.
Mediocre Single Target damage.
Misplaying will hurt the flow of your rotation a lot.
Dragonflight Changes for Demon Hunters
We are maintaining a list of changes for Demon Hunters, so you can see what changes with every patch of Dragonflight.
Changes to Vengeance in patch 10.0.7
Vengeance is getting a few minor quality-of-life changes in Patch 10.0.7 related to
the talent Fodder to the Flame. The demon will now spawn closer to you,
have 20% less health, and the soul will spawn closer to you.
The changes mean you can now kill it with a single
Throw Glaive,
however, you still do not generally want to kill it with
Throw Glaive.
Significant bugs still affecting Vengeance Demon Hunter
Vengeance is currently suffering from a couple of bugs that have significant
impact on builds centering around Fiery Brand. The talent
Burning Alive,
which makes
Fiery Brand spread to additional targets every two seconds
will, for example, stop working if you use both charges of
Fiery Brand
given to you when you talent
Down in Flames.
Starting with Dragonflight, the Holy Priest spell Symbol of Hope also no
longer appropriately reduce the cooldown of
Fiery Brand, likely related to
it becoming a spell with charges due to the
Down in Flames talent.
The talents Fiery Demise and
Burning Blood are supposed
to increase all Fire damage you deal, yet they do not include Immolation Aura in
their list of spells that are increased.
While not necessarily a bug, the talent Charred Flesh only extends
Fiery Brand for 9 seconds after your initial cast. This means
that unless you have more than 50% Haste the talent
Agonizing Flames
will let you extend
Fiery Brand for another tick with one talent
point than with two talent points making the second point in
Agonizing Flames a damage loss if you play
Charred Flesh.
Leveling a Vengeance Demon Hunter
If you are interested in playing one of the most unique tank specs in Dragonflight, please check out the leveling guide.
Addons are a very important part of maximizing your play at max level in
both dungeons and raids. As a Vengeance player, it is important to track
important resources, like the number of souls available or the amount of Fury
needed to cast Fel Devastation. The UI plays an essential part of being
successful. Moving need-to-know information to the center of the screen can
save your life, by not forcing your eyes away from your character at pivotal
moments. If you are interested to know what Addons we recommend, please click
the link below.
Basics of Vengeance Demon Hunter Gameplay
Vengeance is all about resource management, including active mitigation,
healing,
damage, and monster control. The rotation is all about building souls as quickly
as possible and then consuming them with either Spirit Bomb or
Soul Cleave. Outside of the build/spend cycle, you will be weaving in
multiple
sigils to help crowd control the monsters.
As a beginner, you may start out using Shear as you begin to learn
the rotation
and start to feel out how to properly use
Demon Spikes. If you are a
beginner, the
best place to start becoming familiar with the spec is by reviewing the Easy
Mode Page.
Dragonflight
Dragonflight is soaring at us, and with it comes a major talent tree revamp. The new talents will make large changes to the passive powers of Vengeance, as well as reintroduce some old spells and talents, and even a few new ones.
The largest change overall is a complete revamp of the Frailty system.
Previously only a leech debuff, Frailty now has several talent points
reworking it into a debuff that weakens enemies and empower you against them.
More on these reworked talents and how to use them can be found in the
talents and rotations guides respectively.
How to Gear Up as a Vengeance Demon Hunter
Vengeance has been easier to gear than most other specs. Even though we do have a stat preference, we scale better with the overall item level. For the players who care about being as efficient as possible with their gearing, the link below will have the most updated list for the current gear tier.
Despite item level being the strongest factor in gearing, we do care about what secondary stats we choose when comparing two items of the same item level. The link below shows the stat preference and which consumables are important to maximize gameplay.
Vengeance Tanking in Mythic+
Vengeance is a strong tank in Mythic+ with lots of strong tools at its disposal. For more information visit the link below to get to our Mythic+ page for Vengeance.
Improving as a Vengeance Demon Hunter
Becoming an experienced Vengeance player does not happen overnight. It takes practice, research, trial and error, and simulations. Below are links to help every player to aspire to the highest levels of gameplay.
Changelog
- 20 Mar. 2023 (stats page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (Vault of the Incarnates page): Updated Razageth and talents.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (Legendaries): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (talents page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (FAQ page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (how to improve page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (easy mode page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (simulations page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (this page): Updated and reviewed for 10.0.7 and added a list of Significant bugs to Vengeance Demon Hunters.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (gear page): Added section about the Onyx Annulet.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (rotation page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (addons page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (enchants page): Added section about the Onyx Annulet and Primordial Stones.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (spells page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 20 Mar. 2023 (mythic+ page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 08 Mar. 2023 (enchants page): Updated recommendations for weapon enchants and consumables.
- 08 Mar. 2023 (spells page): Updated description for talents and passives.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (rotation page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (how to improve page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (simulations page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (enchants page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (gear page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (easy mode page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (mythic+ page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (Vault of the Incarnates page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (addons page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (spells page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (stats page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (this page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (FAQ page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 24 Jan. 2023 (talents page): Reviewed for Patch 10.0.5.
- 13 Jan. 2023 (gear page): Updated with Embellishments.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (this page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (spells page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (mythic+ page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (easy mode page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (talents page): Updated Soulcrush description and added Elysian Decree to noteworthy talents.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (enchants page): Updated gems and enchants, and added Augment runes.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (simulations page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (addons page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (FAQ page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (stats page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (rotation page): Updated with minor changes to make things a bit more clear.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (how to improve page): Reviewed for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (gear page): Updated for Dragonflight season 1 start.
- 11 Dec. 2022 (Vault of the Incarnates page): Page added.
- 30 Nov. 2022 (talents page): Updated Down in Flames description and advice.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (FAQ page): Reviewed for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (how to improve page): Reviewed for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (simulations page): Reviewed for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (addons page): Reviewed for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (enchants page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (stats page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (mythic+ page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (rotation page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (talents page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (spells page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (easy mode page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (this page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 28 Nov. 2022 (gear page): Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 10 Nov. 2022 (Legendaries): Minor updates to Legendary powers.
- 10 Nov. 2022 (rotation page): Updated with minor changes for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (Legendaries): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (Torghast): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (Covenants and Soulbinds): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (spells page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (FAQ page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (how to improve page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (simulations page): Added disclaimer for Dragonflight.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (easy mode page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (Sepulcher of the First Ones page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (gear page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (this page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (talents page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (mythic+ page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (addons page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (enchants page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (stats page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 24 Oct. 2022 (rotation page): Updated for Dragonflight Pre-Patch.
- 22 Oct. 2022 (Sanctum of Domination page): Updated with talent recommendation for Dragonflight prepatch.
- 22 Oct. 2022 (Castle Nathria page): Updated with recommended talents for Dragonflight prepatch.
- 11 Sep. 2022 (Patch 9.2 Analysis): Legendary recommendation updated and tier set corrected.
- 30 Jul. 2022 (Sanctum of Domination page): Updated for Fated Sanctum.
- 30 Jul. 2022 (Castle Nathria page): Updated for fated Castle Nathria.
- 19 Feb. 2022 (Patch 9.2 Analysis): Page adjusted for Patch 9.2 launch.
- 15 Jan. 2022 (Patch 9.2 Analysis): Page added with initial thoughts and information.
- 01 Nov. 2021 (Patch 9.1 Analysis): Reviewed and approved for Patch 9.1.5.
- 01 Nov. 2021 (Sanctum of Domination page): Reviewed and approved for Patch 9.1.5.
- 11 Jul. 2021 (Sanctum of Domination page): Page added.
- 19 May 2021 (Patch 9.1 Analysis): Page created with initial information.
- 03 Jan. 2021 (Castle Nathria page): Updated boss information. Updated build recommendation.
- 08 Dec. 2020 (Castle Nathria page): Added boss tips.
- 01 Dec. 2020 (Castle Nathria page): Added placeholder Castle Nathria page.
- 12 Oct. 2020 (Ny'alotha page): Page updated for the Shadowlands pre-patch.
- 23 Jul. 2019 (The Eternal Palace page): Updated guide with tips.
- 09 Jul. 2019 (The Eternal Palace page): Guide added.
- 24 Jun. 2019 (Crucible of Storms page): This page has been reviewed for the release of Patch 8.2 and no changes are necessary.
- 24 Jun. 2019 (Uldir page): This page has been reviewed for the release of Patch 8.2 and no changes are necessary.
- 24 Jun. 2019 (Battle of Dazar'alor page): This page has been reviewed for the release of Patch 8.2 and no changes are necessary.
- 14 May 2019 (Crucible of Storms page): Updated guide with tips for Crucible of Storms.
- 16 Apr. 2019 (Uldir page): This page has been reviewed and no changes are necessary for the release of the Crucible of Storms raid.
- 16 Apr. 2019 (Battle of Dazar'alor page): This page has been reviewed and no changes are necessary for the release of the Crucible of Storms raid.
- 16 Apr. 2019 (Crucible of Storms page): Guide added.
- 05 Feb. 2019 (Battle of Dazar'alor page): Page added.
- 10 Dec. 2018 (Uldir page): This page has been reviewed and is up to date for patch 8.1.
- 09 Sep. 2018 (Uldir page): Updated all bosses with Uldir information.
- 11 Aug. 2018 (Uldir page): Page added (empty for now).
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This guide is written by Meyra, a Vengeance main with a love for pushing Mythic+ keys and showcasing Proof of Concept keys with 5 tanks or other non-standard group compositions. They are a distinguished member and frequent contributor to Vengeance theory in the Demon Hunter class discord who also occasionally streams Vengeance and other tank content on Twitch.
- New Potential Evoker Spells Added in Patch 10.1 Build 48661
- Dragonflight Patch 10.0.7 Hotfixes: March 23rd
- Primordial Stone Hotfix Changes: March 23rd
- Dragonflight Patch 10.0.7 DPS Log Rankings for Vault of the Incarnates: Day 1
- Mythic+ Tier List in Dragonflight Season 1 (Week 15)
- Dragonflight Patch 10.0.7 Hotfixes: March 22nd
- Class Set Updates and Clarifications in Patch 10.1: March 22nd
- Dragonflight Patch 10.1 PTR Dev Notes: March 22nd