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Subtlety Rogue DPS Guide (Legion 7.3.5)

Last updated Today at 07:35 by Furty 377 comments

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General Information

Welcome to our Subtlety Rogue DPS guide for World of Warcraft Legion 7.3.5. Here, you will learn everything you need to know about playing a Subtlety Rogue in a raid environment and in Mythic+ dungeons.

About Our Author and Reviewer

This guide has been written by Furty, who has an illustrious history in the World of Warcraft raiding scene and race for World First. He has been a member of guilds such as Serenity, Midwinter, and many more, and is currently raiding in Future. He plays most classes at the highest level. You can follow him on Twitter and watch him play on Twitch.

This guide has been reviewed and approved by Gray_Hound, a Subtlety Rogue and theorycrafter who raids in Strawberry Puppy Kisses. You can find him on Twitch and Twitter.

1. Class Overview

Subtlety has received an array of changes in Legion, altering both their core identity and their strengths and weaknesses. Subtlety Rogues continue to provide strong single-target pressure, but it now brings respectable AoE to the table as well. Much of the rotation involves actively shifting between two stances, in and out of Stealth Icon Stealth. Some abilities can be used at anytime, however, certain abilities can only be used while you are in Stealth Icon Stealth. There are only a limited number of ways to activate Stealth Icon Stealth during combat, and therefore the core component of this specialization revolves around managing your abilities to correctly time windows of burst.

2. Patch 7.3 Changes

  • None

3. Patch 7.2.5 Changes

4. Strengths

  • Strong single target damage
  • Cleave fuels additional single target damage
  • Good burst damage
  • Good burst AoE
  • Scales exceptionally well
  • Strong defensive utility and crowd control
  • Great mobility

5. Weaknesses

  • Cooldown dependent
  • Demands cerebral management of Combo Points and Energy to be effective
  • Dependent on legendary items

6. Viability in the Current Patch

Subtlety is currently a viable specialization for raiding in Antorus, the Burning Throne. Subtlety is generally outperformed on every encounter by Assassination, with the exception of, perhaps, Aggramar. Subtlety is at its best when there are several targets surrounding the main target, allowing your Combo Point generation and Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance resets to be at their zenith, such as against Portal Keeper Hasabel and Antoran High Command.

7. Contents

To make it easy to navigate the guide, we have split it into 10 pages:

8. ChangeLog

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  • 21 Feb. 2018 (easy mode page): Updated talent choices.
  • 28 Nov. 2017 (gear page): Added a Tier 21 section, updated best in slot and trinkets, and updated legendary items section.
  • 28 Nov. 2017 (artifact page): Updated relic priority for Antorus.
  • 28 Nov. 2017 (Netherlight Crucible page): Updated relic priority for Tier 3 crucible.
  • 28 Nov. 2017 (stats page): Added Tier 21 4-piece bonus stat priority and scale factors.
  • 28 Nov. 2017 (enchants page): Added Trained Soldier and Crit gems for Tier 21 set bonus.
  • 28 Nov. 2017 (talents page): Added a note about Gloomblade with Tier 21 set bonus.
  • 13 Oct. 2017 (Netherlight Crucible page): Swapped positions of Dark Sorrows and Light Speed in Tier 2 hierarchy.
  • 13 Sep. 2017 (rotation page): Small fix to the FotD opener.
  • 13 Sep. 2017 (Netherlight Crucible page): Updated Tier 2 priority after recent rebalancing based on new SimCraft results.
  • 12 Sep. 2017 (Netherlight Crucible page): Added Netherlight Crucible page for Subtlety Rogue.
  • 10 Sep. 2017 (rotation page): Updated opener and added an opener for players using The First of the Dead.
  • 10 Sep. 2017 (this page): Updated strengths.
  • 10 Sep. 2017 (talents page): Updated T5 talent descriptions.
  • 10 Sep. 2017 (addons page): Added a Shadow Dance to Shadowstrike Macro.
  • 10 Sep. 2017 (gear page): Added legendary tier list, added trinket tier list, updated legendary descriptions, and added the "stat stick" legendaries.
  • 03 Sep. 2017 (gear page): Re-added "The First of the Dead", which was accidentally removed in an update.
  • 31 Aug. 2017 (talents page): Removed mention of Weaponmaster bugs, as they have been fixed.
  • 31 Aug. 2017 (stats page): Slight updates to stat weights and stat priority.
  • 31 Aug. 2017 (artifact page): Updated relic priority and 35+ path (mostly moved Soul Shadows a bit higher).
  • 31 Aug. 2017 (gear page): Updated legendary items and Ring #2 in BiS.
  • 29 Aug. 2017 (enchants page): Added a note about Healthstones in Patch 7.3. Cleaned up "Consumables" section.
  • 28 Aug. 2017 (this page): Updated viability and removed 7.2 changes. Added 7.3 changes.
  • 28 Aug. 2017 (talents page): No changes needed for Patch 7.3.
  • 28 Aug. 2017 (rotation page): No changes needed for Patch 7.3.
  • 28 Aug. 2017 (enchants page): Added Lightforged Augment Rune and new 7.3 epic gems.
  • 20 Aug. 2017 (gear page): Small update to Best-in-Slot list.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (this page): Updated 7.2.5 changes with new hotfixes.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (easy mode page): Updated rotation slightly.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (artifact page): Updated relic priority and 35+ path.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (rotation page): Updated rotation and APL, added section pertaining to Dark Shadow and Death from Above, updated opener.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (talents page): Updated several talents.
  • 24 Jun. 2017 (talents page): Added Marked for Death as General Use level 100 talent.
  • 24 Jun. 2017 (spells page): Updated some spell descriptions to match 7.2.5 changes.
  • 24 Jun. 2017 (gear page): Made some tweaks to the legendary item section.
  • 18 Jun. 2017 (gear page): Added Tomb of Sargeras Best-in-Slot and Tier 20 set bonus, updated legendaries.
  • 17 Jun. 2017 (this page): Updated strengths/weaknesses/viability.
  • 15 Jun. 2017 (talents page): Updated to provide a more definitive answer on which talents are our go-to in 7.2.5.
  • 15 Jun. 2017 (rotation page): Large update to all sections.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (easy mode page): Updated talent build.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (stats page): Page reviewed and deemed updated for 7.2.5.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (talents page): Updated Tier 2, 6, and 7 talent discussions.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (artifact page): Minor update to 35+ pathing and updated relic priority.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (gear page): Added The Soul of the Shadowblade and The First of the Dead to the Legendary items section.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (this page): Added 7.2.5 changes, updated strengths/weaknesses.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (enchants page): Page reviewed and deemed updated for 7.2.5.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (spells page): Page reviewed and deemed updated for 7.2.5.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (rotation page): Updated ability priority list and removed mentions of Premeditation.
  • 03 Apr. 2017 (talents page): Slight update to the discussion between Master of Subtlety and Weaponmaster.
  • 03 Apr. 2017 (artifact page): Swapped Soul Shadows and Fortune's Bite in the priority order for 7.2.
  • 03 Apr. 2017 (rotation page): Slight adjustments in the Shadow Dance advice for the single-target rotation.
  • 03 Apr. 2017 (easy mode page): Changed the recommended default talent tree.
  • 01 Apr. 2017 (this page): Broke down the patch additions in greater detail, added/change strengths/weaknesses/viability.
  • 29 Mar. 2017 (enchants page): Added Lavish Suramar Feast.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (artifact page): Added a path for the new 7.2 traits.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (stats page): No changes needed for Patch 7.2.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (gear page): No changes needed for Patch 7.2.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (rotation page): No changes needed for Patch 7.2.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (this page): Added Patch 7.2 changes.
  • 24 Jan. 2017 (gear page): Fully updated Best-in-Slot for Nighthold.
  • 23 Jan. 2017 (rotation page): Updated APL for Anticipation bug.
  • 23 Jan. 2017 (this page): Small update to viability section.
  • 23 Jan. 2017 (gear page): Added a separate section dedicated to Mantle of the Master Assassin further explaining its use.
  • 23 Jan. 2017 (talents page): Added a section explaining the Finality bug for Anticipation.
  • 17 Jan. 2017 (this page): Updated viability section.
  • 14 Jan. 2017 (gear page): Added new legendary items.
  • 12 Jan. 2017 (gear page): Updated legendary priority.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (this page): Added Patch 7.1.5 changes list and updated strengths/weaknesses and viability sections.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (stats page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (rotation page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (enchants page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (artifact page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (talents page): Updated for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (easy mode page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 22 Dec. 2016 (easy mode page): Added easy mode for Subtlety Rogues.
  • 08 Dec. 2016 (this page): A few updates to viability and strengths/weaknesses following Kiwifruit's review.
  • 08 Dec. 2016 (enchants page): Update enchants, gems, and consumables to reflect the slight adjustment to the stat priority.
  • 08 Dec. 2016 (artifact page): Updated paths to include a split for single target vs. dungeon oriented & updated Relic priority.
  • 08 Dec. 2016 (stats page): Updated stat weights and added a short Versatility vs Mastery discussion.
  • 06 Dec. 2016 (talents page): Updated T1 talents (Weaponmaster>=MoS) and added a note about situational uses of Alacrity and Death From Above.
  • 06 Dec. 2016 (rotation page): Big update; Action Priority List split into single/multi target, resource management updates, many tweaks to "Important Notes" sections.
  • 11 Oct. 2016 (talents page): Updated talent build and descriptions.
  • 11 Oct. 2016 (gear page): Updated trinket list.
  • 08 Oct. 2016 (this page): Updated strengths, weaknesses, and viability.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (rotation page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (artifact page): Added.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (enchants page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (stats page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (this page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (talents page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (spells page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (gear page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Jul. 2016 (enchants page): Updated Weapon Enchants with a note on Shadowmoon ICD.
  • 20 Jul. 2016 (enchants page): Made enchants match new stat priority.
  • 20 Jul. 2016 (stats page): New stat priority to account for Bleeding Hollow Toxin Vessel.
  • 19 Jul. 2016 (rotation page): Many small improvements (more notes on Pandemic, Subterfuge, and many tweaks).
  • 19 Jul. 2016 (gear page): Removed the trinket sims and added BiS recommendations.
  • 19 Jul. 2016 (talents page): Tweaked Level 30 talent recommendations.
  • 19 Jul. 2016 (talents page): Updated Level 45, 75, 90, and 100 talent recommendations.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (spells page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (stats page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (this page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (enchants page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (addons page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (talents page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (gear page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (rotation page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
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