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Subtlety Rogue DPS Guide (Legion 7.2.5)

Last updated on Jun 28, 2017 at 17:42 by Furty 310 comments

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General Information

Welcome to our Subtlety Rogue DPS guide for World of Warcraft Legion 7.2.5. Here, you will learn everything you need to know about playing a Subtlety Rogue in a raid environment and in Mythic+ dungeons.

About Our Author and Reviewer

This guide has been written by Furty, who has an illustrious history in the World of Warcraft raiding scene and race for World First. He has been a member of guilds such as Serenity, Midwinter, and many more, and is currently raiding in Future. He plays most classes at the highest level. You can follow him on Twitter and watch him play on Twitch.

This guide has been reviewed and approved by impý, a Subtlety Rogue who raids in The Unnamed, a top German guild.

1. Class Overview

Subtlety has received an array of changes in Legion, altering both their core identity and their strengths and weaknesses. Subtlety Rogues continue to provide strong single-target pressure, but it now brings respectable AoE to the table as well. Much of the rotation involves actively shifting between two stances, in and out of Stealth Icon Stealth. Some abilities can be used at anytime, however, certain abilities can only be used while you are in Stealth Icon Stealth. There are only a limited number of ways to activate Stealth Icon Stealth during combat, and therefore the core component of this specialization revolves around managing your abilities to correctly time windows of burst.

2. Patch 7.2.5 Changes

3. Patch 7.2 Changes

4. Strengths

  • Strong single target damage
  • Cleave fuels additional single target damage
  • Good burst damage
  • Good sustained AoE
  • Scales exceptionally well
  • Strong defensive utility and crowd control
  • Great mobility

5. Weaknesses

  • Cooldown dependent
  • Demands cerebral management of Combo Points and Energy to be effective
  • Dependent on legendary items

6. Viability in the Current Patch

Subtlety is currently roughly on par with Assassination for raiding, making it one of the strongest available melee specs in the current patch.

7. Contents

To make it easy to navigate the guide, we have split it into 9 pages:

8. ChangeLog

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  • 28 Jun. 2017 (talents page): Updated several talents.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (rotation page): Updated rotation and APL, added section pertaining to Dark Shadow and Death from Above, updated opener.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (artifact page): Updated relic priority and 35+ path.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (this page): Updated 7.2.5 changes with new hotfixes.
  • 28 Jun. 2017 (easy mode page): Updated rotation slightly.
  • 24 Jun. 2017 (talents page): Added Marked for Death as General Use level 100 talent.
  • 24 Jun. 2017 (gear page): Made some tweaks to the legendary item section.
  • 24 Jun. 2017 (spells page): Updated some spell descriptions to match 7.2.5 changes.
  • 18 Jun. 2017 (gear page): Added Tomb of Sargeras Best-in-Slot and Tier 20 set bonus, updated legendaries.
  • 17 Jun. 2017 (this page): Updated strengths/weaknesses/viability.
  • 15 Jun. 2017 (rotation page): Large update to all sections.
  • 15 Jun. 2017 (talents page): Updated to provide a more definitive answer on which talents are our go-to in 7.2.5.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (easy mode page): Updated talent build.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (spells page): Page reviewed and deemed updated for 7.2.5.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (gear page): Added The Soul of the Shadowblade and The First of the Dead to the Legendary items section.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (talents page): Updated Tier 2, 6, and 7 talent discussions.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (this page): Added 7.2.5 changes, updated strengths/weaknesses.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (artifact page): Minor update to 35+ pathing and updated relic priority.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (enchants page): Page reviewed and deemed updated for 7.2.5.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (rotation page): Updated ability priority list and removed mentions of Premeditation.
  • 14 Jun. 2017 (stats page): Page reviewed and deemed updated for 7.2.5.
  • 03 Apr. 2017 (easy mode page): Changed the recommended default talent tree.
  • 03 Apr. 2017 (talents page): Slight update to the discussion between Master of Subtlety and Weaponmaster.
  • 03 Apr. 2017 (rotation page): Slight adjustments in the Shadow Dance advice for the single-target rotation.
  • 03 Apr. 2017 (artifact page): Swapped Soul Shadows and Fortune's Bite in the priority order for 7.2.
  • 01 Apr. 2017 (this page): Broke down the patch additions in greater detail, added/change strengths/weaknesses/viability.
  • 29 Mar. 2017 (enchants page): Added Lavish Suramar Feast.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (gear page): No changes needed for Patch 7.2.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (stats page): No changes needed for Patch 7.2.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (rotation page): No changes needed for Patch 7.2.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (artifact page): Added a path for the new 7.2 traits.
  • 27 Mar. 2017 (this page): Added Patch 7.2 changes.
  • 24 Jan. 2017 (gear page): Fully updated Best-in-Slot for Nighthold.
  • 23 Jan. 2017 (talents page): Added a section explaining the Finality bug for Anticipation.
  • 23 Jan. 2017 (rotation page): Updated APL for Anticipation bug.
  • 23 Jan. 2017 (gear page): Added a separate section dedicated to Mantle of the Master Assassin further explaining its use.
  • 23 Jan. 2017 (this page): Small update to viability section.
  • 14 Jan. 2017 (gear page): Added new legendary items.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (stats page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (artifact page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (enchants page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (this page): Added Patch 7.1.5 changes list and updated strengths/weaknesses and viability sections.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (easy mode page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (talents page): Updated for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 09 Jan. 2017 (rotation page): Checked and confirmed for Patch 7.1.5.
  • 22 Dec. 2016 (easy mode page): Added easy mode for Subtlety Rogues.
  • 08 Dec. 2016 (enchants page): Update enchants, gems, and consumables to reflect the slight adjustment to the stat priority.
  • 08 Dec. 2016 (this page): A few updates to viability and strengths/weaknesses following Kiwifruit's review.
  • 08 Dec. 2016 (stats page): Updated stat weights and added a short Versatility vs Mastery discussion.
  • 08 Dec. 2016 (artifact page): Updated paths to include a split for single target vs. dungeon oriented & updated Relic priority.
  • 06 Dec. 2016 (talents page): Updated T1 talents (Weaponmaster>=MoS) and added a note about situational uses of Alacrity and Death From Above.
  • 06 Dec. 2016 (rotation page): Big update; Action Priority List split into single/multi target, resource management updates, many tweaks to "Important Notes" sections.
  • 11 Oct. 2016 (talents page): Updated talent build and descriptions.
  • 11 Oct. 2016 (gear page): Updated trinket list.
  • 08 Oct. 2016 (this page): Updated strengths, weaknesses, and viability.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (gear page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (enchants page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (stats page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (rotation page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (artifact page): Added.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (talents page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (this page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Aug. 2016 (spells page): Updated for Legion's launch.
  • 29 Jul. 2016 (enchants page): Updated Weapon Enchants with a note on Shadowmoon ICD.
  • 20 Jul. 2016 (stats page): New stat priority to account for Bleeding Hollow Toxin Vessel.
  • 20 Jul. 2016 (enchants page): Made enchants match new stat priority.
  • 19 Jul. 2016 (talents page): Updated Level 45, 75, 90, and 100 talent recommendations.
  • 19 Jul. 2016 (rotation page): Many small improvements (more notes on Pandemic, Subterfuge, and many tweaks).
  • 19 Jul. 2016 (gear page): Removed the trinket sims and added BiS recommendations.
  • 19 Jul. 2016 (talents page): Tweaked Level 30 talent recommendations.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (this page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (rotation page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (talents page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (enchants page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (addons page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (spells page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (gear page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
  • 18 Jul. 2016 (stats page): Updated for the Legion pre-patch.
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