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Subtlety Rogue DPS Guide in Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.0.1

Last updated on Sep 12, 2018 at 00:15 by Ashine 67 comments

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General Information

Welcome to our Subtlety Rogue DPS guide for World of Warcraft Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.0.1. Here, you will learn everything you need to know about playing a Subtlety Rogue in a raid environment and in Mythic+ dungeons.

About Our Author

This guide has been written by Ashine, European Champion of the second Mythic Dungeon Invitational and a member of two top 60 guilds, Wiping as Intended and Group Therapy. He is regarded as one of the top Subtlety Rogues in the world and contributes a fair bit to the spec's theorycrafting. You can watch him play on Twitch.

1. Class Overview

Subtlety has not received significant changes in Battle for Azeroth. Subtlety Rogues continue to provide strong single-target pressure, but it now brings respectable AoE to the table as well. Much of the rotation involves actively shifting between two stances, in and out of Stealth Icon Stealth. Some abilities can be used at anytime, however, certain abilities can only be used while you are in Stealth. There are only a limited number of ways to activate Stealth during combat, and therefore the core component of this specialization revolves around managing your abilities to correctly time windows of burst.

2. Patch 8.0.1 Changes for Subtlety Rogue

  • With the pre-patch, Artifact traits and the Artifact ability Goremaw's Bite have been removed.
  • Backstab Icon Backstab and Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike now slow your target by 30%.
  • Nightblade Icon Nightblade no longer slows your target. Instead, it reduces the effectiveness of healing on the target by 15%.
  • Feint Icon Feint now has a 15-second cooldown and reduces damage taken from area-of-effect attacks by 40% (was 50%).
  • Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows now has 2-minute cooldown (was 1.5 minutes).
  • Shadow Blades Icon Shadow Blades is partially redesigned. Now causes your Combo Point generating abilities to deal 50% additional damage as Shadow instead of causing auto attacks to deal Shadow damage. In addition to this, Shadow Blades is now on global cooldown in Battle for Azeroth.
  • Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm deals 50% increased damage when Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is active (was 100%).
  • Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance has 5 second base duration (was 4 seconds).
  • Shuriken Combo Icon Shuriken Combo increases damage of your next Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate by 8% per stack, stacking up to 5 times (was 10% per stack).
  • Weaponmaster Icon Weaponmaster causes your Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike and Backstab Icon Backstab to have a 15% chance to hit the target twice each time they deal damage. In Legion it gave a 6% chance to every ability to deal damage twice.
  • Master of Subtlety has been removed and is replaced by Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness in the Level 15 Talent row.
  • Anticipation has been removed and is replaced by Marked for Death Icon Marked for Death in the Level 45 Talent row.
  • Shot in the Dark Icon Shot in the Dark is a new Level 75 Talent.
  • Night Terrors Icon Night Terrors is a new Level 75 Talent.
  • Dark Shadow Icon Dark Shadow increases your damage done while Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is active by 25% (was 30%).
  • Alacrity Icon Alacrity gives your finishing moves a 20% chance per Combo Point spent to grant 2% Haste for 20 seconds stacking up to 5 times (was 2% per stack and stacked up to 10 times).
  • Death from Above Icon Death from Above is now a PvP only talent and was replaced by Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique in the Level 100 Talent row.
  • Shuriken Tornado Icon Shuriken Tornado is a new Level 100 Talent.

3. Subtlety Rogue Strengths

  • Cleave fuels additional single-target damage
  • Versatile, can specialize into multiple things by changing talents
  • Phenomenal defensive capabilities

4. Subtlety Rogue Weaknesses

  • Requires cerebral management of Combo Points and Energy to be effective
  • Low AoE damage without Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique

5. Subtlety Rogue Viability in the Current Patch

Due to how versatile Subtlety Rogue is in Battle for Azeroth, Subtlety is looking to be one of the strongest specializations for raiding and dungeons. Subtlety is able to provide immense single-target in raids while having an option to spec into more AoE damage for dungeons with Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique.

6. Contents

To make it easy to navigate the guide, we have split it into 14 pages:

7. ChangeLog

  • 12 Sep. 2018 (rotation page): Added a note about third Shadow Dance in the opener along with few other small fixes.
  • 12 Sep. 2018 (easy mode page): Added multi-target stat priority and updated the page.
  • 12 Sep. 2018 (talents page): Updated descriptions on few talents.
  • 11 Sep. 2018 (rotation page): Added finisher Combo Point threshold when talented into Deeper Stratagem.
  • 10 Sep. 2018 (bosses page): Small updates because of changes made to the bosses.
  • 04 Sep. 2018 (enchants page): Updated Off-hand weapon enchant description.
  • 04 Sep. 2018 (bosses page): Changed formatting on the page.
  • 04 Sep. 2018 (azerite traits and gear page): Updated layout of the page and added couple of notes regarding Azerite traits.
  • 04 Sep. 2018 (gear page): Updated page for Uldir launch.
  • 31 Aug. 2018 (mythic+ page): Added mention of Find Weakness on Priority Targets and changed formatting.
  • 31 Aug. 2018 (bosses page): Page updated with short description of bosses and recommended Talents.
  • 29 Aug. 2018 (simulations page): Updated simulations.
  • 29 Aug. 2018 (azerite traits and gear page): Updated Azerite trait simulations.
  • 27 Aug. 2018 (mythic+ page): Added openers for different scenarios in Mythic+.
  • 27 Aug. 2018 (rotation page): Changed wording on few paragraphs and added Shadow Dance AoE rotation.
  • 25 Aug. 2018 (stats page): Updated single-target stat priority.
  • 23 Aug. 2018 (gear page): Updated best Azerite gear and their traits.
  • 18 Aug. 2018 (talents page): Updated descriptions on couple of talents.
  • 18 Aug. 2018 (simulations page): Updated simulations.
  • 18 Aug. 2018 (stats page): Added multi-target stat priority and removed stat weights.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (simulations page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (gear page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (enchants page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (this page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (FAQ page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (common mistakes page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (mythic+ page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (rotation page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (azerite traits and gear page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (talents page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (easy mode page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 13 Aug. 2018 (stats page): Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 11 Aug. 2018 (FAQ page): Page added.
  • 11 Aug. 2018 (azerite traits and gear page): Page updated with simulations for BfA.
  • 11 Aug. 2018 (mythic+ page): Page added.
  • 11 Aug. 2018 (bosses page): Page added (empty for now).
  • 03 Aug. 2018 (common mistakes page): Updated page to reflect the current talent build meta.
  • 31 Jul. 2018 (azerite traits and gear page): Page added.
  • 18 Jul. 2018 (talents page): Fixed the Talent table and few of the choices.
  • 18 Jul. 2018 (stats page): Updated stat priority.
  • 18 Jul. 2018 (easy mode page): Updated stat priority.
  • 18 Jul. 2018 (this page): Updated strengths and weaknesses.
  • 18 Jul. 2018 (rotation page): Removed redundant rotations and openers.
  • 18 Jul. 2018 (enchants page): Updated recommended gem to correct one.
  • 16 Jul. 2018 (this page): Updated for the Battle for Azeroth pre-patch.
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