Survival Hunter DPS Mythic+ Guide — Dragonflight 10.2.7
In this guide, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Survival Hunter in World of Warcraft — Dragonflight 10.2.7.
Unique Challenges of The War Within Mythic+
Mythic+ Dungeons, especially high ones, are arguably the highest level of competitive PvE content that WoW has to offer aside from Mythic raiding.
In Mythic Dungeons as a Hunter, you will be responsible for a large part of the group's total damage output, while in a Mythic Raiding group, you may only be responsible for maybe 7% of it. The skill and execution from the individual players in the group is much more important.
Aside from just doing damage, in Mythic+ you will be responsible for many things to make the group's run faster and easier. Interrupting, offensively dispelling enemy targets, soaking mechanics, using your traps and stuns are all much more common in Mythic+ than your usual Mythic raid.
In this guide, we will talk about getting the most out of your Hunter in Mythic+ dungeons, including the best way to set up your character, how your rotation may change, and tips and tricks for using your abilities in the most optimal way.
If you are unfamiliar with Mythic+ and its associated general mechanics, you can read more about it on our dedicated Mythic+ page below.
To learn more about the Mythic+ Meta, check out our Mythic+ Tier List below.
Best The War Within Mythic+ Talent Build for Survival Hunter
For a more general overview of Talents for Survival Hunter, please visit our dedicated Talents page.
The War Within Talent Builds for Survival Hunter
Best Mythic+ Build for Survival Hunter
This build is optimal for essentially all Mythic+. If you want a bit more
AoE, you can swap Mongoose Bite/
Bloody Claws for
Fury of the Eagle and a point of
Ruthless Marauder.
Be sure to make use of the 'Copy Export String' button to import the best build directly into your game!
Key Utility for Survival Hunter in The War Within Mythic+
This section talks mostly about the uses of different spells. For in-depth explanations of all Hunter Abilities and Talents, including these, check out our Spells page.
Muzzle is your "kick" and your most important bit of utility in
Mythic+, used to stop enemy casts for the benefit of the group and especially
the tank. It is highly recommended to use a Focus Kick macro for this.
- /stopcasting
- /stopcasting
- /cast [@focus,exists,nodead][@mouseover,exists,nodead] [] Muzzle
This macro will kick your focus target if you have one, mouseover if you have no Focus target, and your target if you have neither of those.
To quickly set a focus target in hectic scenarios, we also recommend a Focus Mouseover macro.
- /focus [@mouseover]
Make sure that your UI shows your Focus Target's casts clearly, so that you are always able to kick it on cooldown, or in coordination with the rest of your group.
Intimidation is your second-most important utility and is your
"stop" for negating casts that cannot be normally interrupted. We recommend
using this in the same way as your Muzzle, with the same macro (with
Intimidation swapped in for Muzzle, of course).
Binding Shot can be used to save your tank in hectic moments by
helping him kite mobs and generate some range.
Freezing Trap can be used as an additional stop alongside
Intimidation, but it has a slow travel time and you will need to be
close to land it before most stunnable casts are finished.
Scatter Shot (mutually exclusive with
Binding Shot) can be
used as an additional stop alongside
Intimidation and
Freezing Trap, but you have to be
within 20 yards of the mob you are stopping. It will also remove any DoTs like
Master Marksman, giving it a small DPS cost.
Feign Death can not only be used to drop aggro, but also negate
certain casts and channels on you. In some cases, these mechanics will simply
retarget someone else in the group, but occasionally the mechanic will be
entirely negated with huge benefits. If you notice a cast or effect on you, try
to Feign it!
Tranquilizing Shot can negate beneficial Enrage and Magic effects
from enemy
targets, and with the
Disruptive Rounds Talent, we do not lose
meaningful damage from doing so.
Tar Trap can be used to aid your tank in kiting by slowing mobs.
Surviving High Mythic+ as a Survival Hunter
In the upper levels of Mythic+, you may find that your baseline Hunter Kit is not enough to survive some mechanics, especially those that become oneshots on high Tyrannical keys, for example.
A dead DPS does no DPS, of course, so in these cases it can be worth replacing your worst DPS Trinket with a defensive Tank Trinket to help you survive. Season 4 has a few options available for this:
Choker of Shielding — Not a Trinket, but an Embellished Neck that would likely replace your
Torc of Passed Time with Blue Silken Lining. This is your first line of defense, offering an extra layer of survivability on a 3-minute cooldown for a pretty small DPS loss.
Ward of Faceless Ire — A significant Absorb shield on a 1-minute cooldown, with passive Agility. This is generally your best choice, as its Absorb should be enough for almost any mechanic, and its passive Agility means you do not lose as much DPS as with other Trinkets. You will have to obtain this directly from Echo of Neltharion in Aberrus, or buy it with 2
Antique Bronze Bullions.
Fyrakk's Tainted Rageheart — A much bigger absorb-shield, but on a 90-second cooldown and with passive Versatility. This is a much bigger DPS loss to take than the Ward, and while its absorb shield is bigger, it is probably overkill for the vast majority of mechanics. You will have to obtain this directly from Fyrakk in Amirdrassil, or buy it with 2
Antique Bronze Bullions.
"Not Even Close" Website
When deciding if you should use the effects above, it is crucial to use a website like Not Even Close. Plug your character's base stats into this website, and it will tell you which mechanics will oneshot you on a given key level and affix combination. You should only use defensive Trinkets and Embellishments if they will actually save your life according to this website.
Dungeon Tips and Tricks for Survival Hunter in The War Within
This section has Hunter-specific tips and tricks that may not seem obvious, for all dungeons' bosses and trash. If you want general guides for each of our Dungeons or Mythic+ in general, check out our dedicated page below.
Dungeon Tips for Survival Hunter in The War Within
Bosses
- Crawth: Your defensive rotation should be Bear > SoTF > Turtle > Repeat. Start using these defensives when you are pretty sure that the next Screech will kill you, as they do increasing damage.
- Overgrown Ancient: Use cooldowns at 25s and 2:25.
- Echo of Doragosa: When targeted by
Energy Bomb, use
Feign Death quickly to cancel it.
Trash
- Arcane Ravager: Bait the
Vicious Ambush (stand at max range), and Feign once it targets you.
Bosses
- No special tips.
Trash
- Arcane Tender — Feigning the
Erratic Growth on you will cancel it entirely.
- Rune Seal Keeper — If
Icy Bindings goes through (it really shouldn't!), you can
Disengage the root.
- Drakonid Breaker —
Shoulder Slam can be Feigned if it is on you.
Bosses
- Rira Hackclaw — You can feign
Savage Charge.
Trash
- Bracken Warscourge — You can pre-cast
Tranquilizing Shot just before the
Ragestorm cast finishes to insta-stop it.
Bosses
- No specific tips.
Trash
- Containment Apparatus — You can feign
Containment Beam when it targets you.
Bosses
- Chargath, Bane of Scales — You can feign the
Dragon Strike to prevent the bleed application you. Feign before the cast ends, and stay Feigned through the animation.
- Magmatusk — You can feign
Lava Spray, but it will re-target. You can also Turtle an application of
Magma Eruption.
Trash
- Qalashi Bonesplitter — You can feign
Dragonbone Axe.
Bosses
- Teera —
Aspect of the Turtle will not immune
Gale Arrow, even though you might expect it to.
- Balakar Khan — You can feign
Static Spear.
Trash
- No specific tips.
Bosses
- Kyrakka — You can pre-
Aspect of the Turtle
Flamespit.
Trash
- Thunderhead — You can pre-
Aspect of the Turtle
Rolling Thunder. You cannot know if you are targeted ahead of time, so this is a sort of gamble.
- Blazebound Destroyer — You can Feign ~0.75s before
Inferno on you expires, and not take any damage.
Bosses
- Olaf — You can feign
Ricocheting Shield.
Trash
- No specific tips.
Gear Considerations and How To Sim Mythic+ for Survival Hunter in Mythic+
When choosing your trinkets, we recommend simulating yourself on Raidbots Top Gear or Gear Compare using the DungeonSlice Fight Style to simulate a Mythic+ dungeon.
On our Gear Page below, we have compiled BiS items for Survival Hunter that also apply to Mythic+.
Changelog
- 12 May 2024: Added Misdirection to the M+ Build by default.
- 11 May 2024: Added section on how to survive the highest of keys with Tank Trinkets and Embellishments.
- 07 May 2024: Reviewed for 10.2.7.
- 03 May 2024: Added tip for Chargath in Neltharus.
- 22 Apr. 2024: Updated for Season 4.
- 19 Mar. 2024: Reviewed for Patch 10.2.6.
- 29 Jan. 2024: Updated the default M+ build to a No-CD Build.
- 15 Jan. 2024: Updated for Patch 10.2.5.
- 18 Dec. 2023: Added Mythic+ Dungeon Tips.
- 28 Nov. 2023: Updated the Mythic+ Talent Build.
- 12 Nov. 2023: Added a T30 Mythic+ Build.
- 09 Nov. 2023: Small change to the Mythic+ build, for more single-target.
- 06 Nov. 2023: Updated for Patch 10.2
- 04 Sep. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.1.7
- 10 Jul. 2023: Updated for Patch 10.1.5.
- 23 Jun. 2023: Updated the Mythic+ Builds in light of recent APL changes.
- 02 Jun. 2023: Significant updates to the talent builds, both in terms of what is recommended for Fortified/Tyrannical, and the talent builds in themselves.
- 27 May 2023: Added separate Fortified, Tyrannical, and Cooldown Builds for Survival Mythic+.
- 13 May 2023: Updated the recommended AoE/Mythic+ Talents.
- 01 May 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.1.
- 20 Mar. 2023: Reviewed for Patch 10.0.7.
- 24 Jan. 2023: Updated the recommended M+ Build.
- 11 Dec. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight Season 1.
- 28 Nov. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight launch.
- 29 Oct. 2022: Updated the Venthyr Mythic+ Build Talents.
- 26 Oct. 2022: Added a Kyrian build that is superior for heavy AoE keys.
- 24 Oct. 2022: Updated for Dragonflight pre-patch.
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This guide has been written by Azortharion, a Hunter Theorycrafter and Guidewriter since 2014 who is widely considered one of the best Hunters in the world. He is an accomplished player with hundreds of top parses for all Hunter specs throughout the game's history. He is also the Founder and Admin of Trueshot Lodge, the Hunter Class Discord. You can find him on his stream on Twitch and his channel on YouTube. He also has his own personal Discord server where you can freely ask him any Hunter questions you may have!
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