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Vengeance Demon Hunter Tank Spec, Builds, and Talents (Legion 7.2.5)

Last updated on Jun 15, 2017 at 15:55 by Vlad 145 comments

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General Information

On this page, we present the viable talent choices for Vengeance Demon Hunters in World of Warcraft Legion 7.2.5. We detail what each of the talents do and in which situations they should be taken.

The other pages of our Vengeance Demon Hunter guide can be accessed from the table of contents on the right.

About Our Reviewer

This guide has been reviewed and approved by Munkky, a respected Vengeance Demon Hunter theorycrafter.

1. Talent Choices

Level Choices
99 Abyssal Strike Abyssal Strike Agonizing Flames Agonizing Flames Razor Spikes Razor Spikes
100 Feast of Souls ? Feast of Souls Fallout Fallout Burning Alive Burning Alive
102 Felblade Felblade Flame Crash Flame Crash Fel Eruption Fel Eruption
104 Feed the Demon ? Feed the Demon Fracture Fracture Soul Rending ? Soul Rending
106 Concentrated Sigils Concentrated Sigils Sigil of Chains Sigil of Chains Quickened Sigils Quickened Sigils
108 Fel Devastation ? Fel Devastation Blade Turning ? Blade Turning Spirit Bomb Spirit Bomb
110 Last Resort Last Resort Demonic Infusion Demonic Infusion Soul Barrier Soul Barrier

Talents can be freely changed when out of combat and in a rested XP area (such as an inn or a capital city). Moreover, Tome of the Tranquil Mind Icon Tome of the Tranquil Mind and Codex of the Tranquil Mind Icon Codex of the Tranquil Mind can be used to temporarily allow players to change talents anywhere, as long as they are out of combat.

2. Tier 1 (Level 99) Talents

Abyssal Strike Abyssal Strike Agonizing Flames Agonizing Flames Razor Spikes Razor Spikes

Abyssal Strike Icon Abyssal Strike provides a large mobility boost, by giving you two extra Infernal Strike Icon Infernal Strikes per minute. This is a great option for fights where mobility is important, and it also provides a DPS increase (if you are using the Flame Crash Icon Flame Crash talent). This is the talent of choice for AoE situations and dungeon content.

Razor Spikes Icon Razor Spikes is the best choice for burst single-target damage, but it requires proper management to obtain the best results. If you do not wish to bother with this, then simply choosing Abyssal Strike Icon Abyssal Strike for the DPS component is viable.

Agonizing Flames Icon Agonizing Flames can be used for the movement speed increase and for the DPS in dungeon content, where its cooldown lines up well with the timing of pulls.

3. Tier 2 (Level 100) Talents

Feast of Souls ? Feast of Souls Fallout Fallout Burning Alive Burning Alive
  • Feast of Souls Icon Feast of Souls causes Soul Cleave Icon Soul Cleave to also place a 6-second HoT on you in addition to the instant healing it provides.
  • Fallout Icon Fallout causes the initial damage burst of Immolation Aura Icon Immolation Aura to have a chance of shattering Lesser Soul Fragments from enemies.
  • Burning Alive Icon Burning Alive causes your Fiery Brand Icon Fiery Brand to deal damage to the target every 2 seconds for its 8-second duration, and with each tick it spreads to another nearby target. Note that only the initial application of Fiery Brand can spread to other targets.

All three talents in this tier are viable, albeit in different situations.

Against multiple targets, Fallout Icon Fallout can provide a strong AoE healing burst. If using Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb or a non-Fracture Icon Fracture build, this will be the best talent for DPS in this row. Note that Fallout becomes much more valuable once you unlock the  Icon Painbringer Artifact trait. Note that Fallout works well in conjunction with the Feed the Demon Icon Feed the Demon, Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb, and Soul Barrier Icon Soul Barrier talents for Soul Fragment generation in dungeons, which makes it practically a must-have have when using any of these talents.

Burning Alive Icon Burning Alive provides a very small DPS increase on single-target, but it is outshined by Fallout Icon Fallout + Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb. Bear in mind that since Fiery Brand Icon Fiery Brand reduces the damage the target deals to you, spreading Fiery Brand to other targets also causes the damage reduction to spread, which can be very useful in AoE situations.

Feast of Souls Icon Feast of Souls provides a small HoT to the player, which is not a reliable source of healing. It requires Soul Cleave Icon Soul Cleave, which is not something you will cast very much.

4. Tier 3 (Level 102) Talents

Felblade Felblade Flame Crash Flame Crash Fel Eruption Fel Eruption
  • Felblade Icon Felblade is an active ability with a 15-second cooldown (reduced by Haste) that charges your target and deals Fire damage to them. It generates 20 Pain, and using Shear Icon Shear has a chance to reset Felblade's cooldown.
  • Flame Crash Icon Flame Crash is a passive ability that causes your Infernal Strike Icon Infernal Strike to leave behind a Sigil of Flame Icon Sigil of Flame at the location where you land.
  • Fel Eruption Icon Fel Eruption is an active ability with a 30-second cooldown and which costs 10 Pain. It deals Chaos damage to your target, and stuns them for 2 seconds. Targets that are permanently immune to stuns (such as raid bosses) take 100% additional damage.

Felblade Icon Felblade is the best for learning and for survivability due to the Pain generation it provides. The charge is nice, however given that you already have Infernal Strike Icon Infernal Strike, it is not particularly impactful.

Flame Crash Icon Flame Crash is an AoE DPS increase, and is preferable for AoE situations. When taking this, Infernal Strike Icon Infernal Strike should always be used practically on cooldown, only saving charges for when movement is absolutely necessary. You will then continue to "weave" this with Sigil of Flame Icon Sigil of Flame in order to maximise the uptime of Sigil of Flame.

Fel Eruption Icon Fel Eruption provides the highest single-target DPS increase in this tier, and if you are interested in that as opposed to survivability, it can be a good choice. If using Fel Eruption, it is a good idea to use it on cooldown and always time it for when the target is debuffed by Fiery Brand Icon Fiery Brand (since they take increased damage thanks to the  Icon Fiery Demise Artifact trait).

5. Tier 4 (Level 104) Talents

Feed the Demon ? Feed the Demon Fracture Fracture Soul Rending ? Soul Rending
  • Feed the Demon Icon Feed the Demon is a passive ability that reduces the remaining cooldown of Demon Spikes Icon Demon Spikes by 1 second for each Soul Fragment you consume.
  • Fracture Icon Fracture is an active ability that deals Physical damage to your target and creates 2 Lesser Soul Fragments. Fracture costs 40 Pain.
  • Soul Rending Icon Soul Rending is a passive ability that grants you 50% Leech while Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis is active.

Fracture Icon Fracture is the go-to talent for both Survival and DPS. For survival, you should use it to spawn Lesser Soul Fragments, exceed the cap, and automatically consume the new fragments for healing and  Icon Painbringer stacks. For DPS, it is great on single-target as well as for spawning Soul Fragments for Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb in AoE situations.

Due to Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis having received a buff, this talent is not nearly as strong as the other two talents in this tier, and will see most of its use during Necrotic week of Mythic+ dungeons. This affects Metamorphosis,  Icon Fueled by Pain, and Last Resort Icon Last Resort.

Soul Rending Icon Soul Rending is good for dungeons when your group or your healer are not very experienced. It is also good if you are pugging or when you are with a lower level healer.

Feed the Demon Icon Feed the Demon is decent for survival in dungeons when using the Fallout Icon Fallout talent, but it is overshadowed by Fracture Icon Fracture in raids, as well as by Soul Rending Icon Soul Rending when you lack healing.

6. Tier 5 (Level 106) Talents

Concentrated Sigils Concentrated Sigils Sigil of Chains Sigil of Chains Quickened Sigils Quickened Sigils
  • Concentrated Sigils Icon Concentrated Sigils passively causes all your Sigils to be targeted at your location, and increases the duration of their effects by 2 seconds.
  • Sigil of Chains Icon Sigil of Chains is an active ability with a 90-second cooldown. It places a sigil at the target location, which activates after 2 seconds. Any enemies located in the sigil area at that time are pulled to its center and snared, having their movement speed reduced by 70% for 6 seconds.
  • Quickened Sigils Icon Quickened Sigils passively causes all sigils to activate 1 second faster, and also reduces their cooldowns by 20%.

Quickened Sigils Icon Quickened Sigils is a good choice if you want to lower the cooldown of your sigils.

Sigil of Chains Icon Sigil of Chains has good utility and it can work well to group up mobs for easier AoE damage. It is very strong in dungeons.

Concentrated Sigils Icon Concentrated Sigils can be the highest DPS option of the row when taken with Flame Crash Icon Flame Crash, as it gives you an extra tick per Sigil of Flame Icon Sigil of Flame. This should only be used when you do not need to place your sigils at range, generally only on bosses.

7. Tier 6 (Level 108) Talents

Fel Devastation ? Fel Devastation Blade Turning ? Blade Turning Spirit Bomb Spirit Bomb
  • Fel Devastation Icon Fel Devastation is an active channeled ability with a 1-minute cooldown and which costs 30 Pain. It deals Fire damage to enemies in front of you over 2 seconds (reduced by Haste), and dealing damage also heals you.
  • Blade Turning Icon Blade Turning passively increases your Pain generation by 20% for 5 seconds after parrying an attack.
  • Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb is an active ability that consumes all Soul Fragments in a 25-yard radius around you, causing them to also explode and deal damage to nearby enemies, affecting them with the Frailty Icon Frailty debuff for 20 seconds. You heal for 20% of the damage you deal to enemies affected by Frailty.

Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb is the highest damaging ability in this tier and is one of the two key abilities for Vengeance Demon Hunters. You should use it for DPS and for survivability. If there is more than 1 target active, you are better off using Spirit Bomb for the instant healing than Soul Cleave Icon Soul Cleave. For damage, if there are 5 or more Lesser Soul Fragments, use it. Otherwise, for survival, you simply maintain the Frailty Icon Frailty buff.

Blade Turning Icon Blade Turning provides Pain gain from all sources, however the overall Pain gain is not that high. This is meant as a smoothing talent, something which Spirit Bomb Icon Spirit Bomb does better.

Fel Devastation Icon Fel Devastation provides burst healing and DPS, however it is weaker than the other choices in this tier.

8. Tier 7 (Level 110) Talents

Last Resort Last Resort Demonic Infusion Demonic Infusion Soul Barrier Soul Barrier
  • Last Resort Icon Last Resort passively triggers Metamorphosis Icon Metamorphosis and returns you to 30% health if you take fatal damage. This effect can only occur once every 8 minutes, and it is not affected by the cooldown of your Metamorphosis (it will still trigger if Metamorphosis is on cooldown, and it does not trigger the cooldown when it procs). If Metamorphosis is active when Last Resort procs, its duration will simply be refreshed.
  • Demonic Infusion Icon Demonic Infusion is an active ability with a 2-minute cooldown that uses your Demon Spikes Icon Demon Spikes charges and then instantly recharges them, also generating 60 Pain in the process.
  • Soul Barrier Icon Soul Barrier is an active ability with a 30-second cooldown, which costs 30 Pain. You place a damage absorption shield on yourself that lasts for 12 seconds. Taking damage cannot fully consume the shield (there is a minimum amount below which it cannot go), and each time you consume a Soul Fragment while the shield is active, more damage absorption is added to it. Using Soul Barrier consumes all Soul Fragments within 25 yards.

The choice in this tier is largely preference-based. Consider the following points before making your decision.

Last Resort Icon Last Resort is a strong choice for progression content. It can save wipes and avoid using a combat res. You can also use it to avoid abilities, in some cases. Outside of progression raiding, however, you will not find much use for this talent.

Demonic Infusion Icon Demonic Infusion provides a large gain to Demon Spikes Icon Demon Spikes uptime and is great for Physical damage-heavy fights or for a DPS gain when used with Razor Spikes Icon Razor Spikes.

Soul Barrier Icon Soul Barrier is viable and we consider it to be the best for fights with heavy Magic damage. For the best usage, you should use it in conjunction with Fracture Icon Fracture, Soul Carver Icon Soul Carver, and/or Fallout Icon Fallout to build Soul Fragments beforehand, which you can then use during Soul Barrier.

9. ChangeLog

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  • 15 Jun. 2017: Removed a mention of Soul Rending being good against the Necrotic affix in Mythic+, since Necrotic now affects Leech.
  • 13 Jun. 2017: Updated several talent sections to account for Patch 7.2.5 changes, as well as updating some talent descriptions.
  • 02 Apr. 2017: Updated tier 1, 4, and 5 talent discussions slightly.
  • 27 Mar. 2017: No changes needed for Patch 7.2.
  • 10 Jan. 2017: Changed Soul Barrier to a checkmark (no change to text) and added a mention that Abyssal Strike is a DPS increase when paired with the Flame Crash talent.
  • 09 Jan. 2017: Updated the talent descriptions to account for Patch 7.1.5 and also made various major changes to recommendations.
  • 06 Nov. 2016: Updated several talent evaluations (Soul Barrier, Last Resort, Spirit Bomb, Concentrated Sigils, Fracture, Agonizing Flames, Razor Spikes).
  • 25 Oct. 2016: Updated the Agonizing Flames, Spirit Bomb, and Soul Barrier descriptions and the Soul Barrier recommendation (slightly) to account for Patch 7.1 changes.
  • 19 Sep. 2016: Updated tier 7 talent discussion.
  • 04 Sep. 2016: Updated some talent discussions (tiers 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7).
  • 01 Sep. 2016: Made a few tweaks to talent recommendations (most notably tier 6).
  • 29 Aug. 2016: Updated for Legion's launch.
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