Subtlety Rogue DPS Mythic+ Tips — Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.1

Last updated on Dec 10, 2018 at 14:50 by Ashine 71 comments

On this page, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Subtlety Rogue in World of Warcraft — Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.1.

1. Subtlety Rogue in Mythic+

The playstyle of Subtlety in Mythic+ stays almost the same in Battle for Azeroth. It revolves around burst windows with Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique and damage multipliers, such as Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death and Dark Shadow Icon Dark Shadow. In Battle for Azeroth, Subtlety does more AoE damage than before because of Secret Technique, but less priority damage than in Legion.

2. Subtlety Rogue Mythic+ Rotation

For the most part, Subtlety Rogue's rotation is the same as referred in the Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities page, but the opener sequence changes a little bit in different scenarios.

Note that the openers assume you have 4+ targets; fewer than that and you will have to cast extra Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storms to generate enough Combo Points for your finishers. Do not cast finishers with less than 4 (preferably 5-6) Combo Points apart from your initial Nightblade Icon Nightblade in the opener.

2.1. Opener Sequence on 4+ Targets

  1. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  2. Cast Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death.
  3. Cast Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique.
  4. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  5. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  6. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  7. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  8. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm and Nightblade Icon Nightblade and apply the Nightblade debuff to all targets that will live for the whole duration of the debuff.

If the targets are not stacked enough for Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique to hit everything, you can apply some Nightblade Icon Nightblades while waiting until all targets are in range.

2.2. Opener Sequence on Packs with a Priority Target

  1. Cast Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike.
  2. Cast Nightblade Icon Nightblade.
  3. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  4. Cast Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death.
  5. Cast Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique.
  6. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  7. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  8. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  9. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  10. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm and Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate on the priority target until it is killed.

Reapplying Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness during Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is not recommended unless you have fewer than 3 targets. Also remember to not cap on Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance charges.

2.3. Subtlety Rogue Utility

  • Shroud of Concealment Icon Shroud of Concealment provides Stealth to every nearby party member. This spell is often used to skip difficult or inefficient packs that you would otherwise have to deal with.
  • Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows, Feint Icon Feint, and Cheat Death Icon Cheat Death are a big part of what makes Rogue's good in Mythic+; their defensive abilities are the strongest in the game.
  • Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot has gained more value in Battle for Azeroth with the reduced duration on all AoE stuns. It is one of the longest stuns in the game thus making it exceptionally useful when dealing with difficult mobs.

3. Mythic+ Talents for Subtlety Rogues

Below are the suggested talents for Mythic+. These talents are recommended for all groups and keys at the current time.

Level Choices
15 Weaponmaster Weaponmaster Find Weakness Find Weakness Gloomblade Gloomblade
30 Nightstalker Nightstalker Subterfuge Subterfuge Shadow Focus Shadow Focus
45 Vigor Vigor Deeper Stratagem Deeper Stratagem Marked for Death Marked for Death
60 Soothing Darkness Soothing Darkness Cheat Death Cheat Death Elusiveness Elusiveness
75 Shot in the Dark Shot in the Dark Night Terrors Night Terrors Prey on the Weak Prey on the Weak
90 Dark Shadow Dark Shadow Alacrity Alacrity Enveloping Shadows Enveloping Shadows
100 Master of Shadows Master of Shadows Secret Technique Secret Technique Shuriken Tornado Shuriken Tornado

4. Mythic+ Affixes

The way Mythic+ affixes are tiered in Battle for Azeroth has changed quite a bit since their launch in Legion.

There are now three weekly affixes and one seasonal affix. The first affix is available instantly at level two and three, the second affix starts at level four, the third affix is enabled at level seven, and finally the seasonal affix is at level ten.

4.1. Tier One Affixes

  • Fortified Icon Fortified increases the Health pool of all non-boss enemies by 20% and damage dealt by 30%.
  • Tyrannical Icon Tyrannical increases the Health pool of boss enemies by 40% and their damage dealt by 15%.

Fortified Icon Fortified and Tyrannical Icon Tyrannical are the two affixes every player will see. These affixes shift the focus of dungeons from boss to trash depending on the week. Subtlety Rogues will excel during both Tyrannical and Fortified weeks due to having strong single-target and competitive AoE with Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique.

4.2. Tier Two Affixes

  • Raging Icon Raging increases the damage dealt by enemies below 30% HP by 100% until they die.
  • Teeming Icon Teeming adds additional trash mobs to certain packs throughout each dungeon.
  • Bolstering Icon Bolstering buffs remaining enemies Health pools and damage dealt by 20% when an enemy dies nearby. To counter this affix, DPS all mobs down evenly and focus your casts into high Health mobs if there are any. As a Subtlety Rogue, managing Bolstering will often be your main task, due to how strong Subtlety is at equalizing Health pools of mobs, mainly due to high priority damage.
  • Sanguine Icon Sanguine places a pool of blood on the ground when a mob is slain. This pool will heal remaining enemies who stay inside the zone and also damage players.
  • Bursting Icon Bursting forces enemy mobs to detonate when slain, afflicting the group with a stacking debuff that causes players to suffer 10% of their max Health in damage every four seconds. Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows removes and prevents any Bursting stacks, so remember to use it when your group is about to reach high stacks. When handling the Bursting affix, ask how many stacks your healer can handle and try to not mindlessly DPS and exceed your healers stack limit.

4.3. Tier Three Affixes

  • Volcanic Icon Volcanic spawns volcanic plumes underneath and around players when in combat with any enemy. When damaged by Volcanic, players suffer 50% of their maximum Health pool in damage. The more enemies you are in combat with, the more Volcanic that will spawn.
  • Grievous Icon Grievous afflicts players with a stacking DoT when they fall below 90%. Use Crimson Vial Icon Crimson Vial to help out your healer when outside of combat.
  • Quaking Icon Quaking will periodically attempt to interrupt casters by creating a damaging zone around each player. About 3 seconds after the zone forms, it will deal 20% maximum Health in damage to each player caught in the zone. Feint Icon Feint works on this damage, so do not hesitate to use it.
  • Explosive Icon Explosive will occasionally spawn Explosive Orbs that need to be targeted and burned down within a short period of time or they will deal significant damage to the party. Explosive Orbs are not cleaveable and the amount of orbs that spawn scales with the amount of enemies pulled. Subtlety is effective at dealing with the orbs, however it causes you to lose quite a bit of damage due to Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate overkilling the orbs by a fair amount.
  • Necrotic Icon Necrotic debuffs the target of enemy melee swings with stacking healing reduction and minor DoT.
  • Skittish Icon Skittish reduces the amount of threat generated by tanks throughout the dungeon. Use Tricks of the Trade Icon Tricks of the Trade on your tank everytime you are engaging a new mob pack or boss to help them with threat.

4.4. Seasonal Affix

Infested Icon Infested is the seasonal affix for the launch of Battle for Azeroth. Enemies afflicted with the Infested debuff will be scattered throughout each dungeon once you reach key level ten. These mobs will heal enemies around them and, when slain, will spawn two Spawn of G'huun that will attempt to infest remaining enemies.

There are several ways to handle Infested Icon Infested mobs depending on pack size, which mob is infested, and group composition. The first way to handle an Infested enemy is to burn down the infested target and the subsequently spawning Spawn of G'huun, while either crowd controlling or ignoring the other mobs in the pack. This way is usually the fastest way when you have a Subtlety Rogue in the group, due to their massive priority damage. The second way is to crowd control the Infested mob and burn down all the other enemies.

5. Mythic+ Azerite Traits

To learn how different Azerite traits perform on single-target and multi-target situations, refer to the Simulations page.

6. Changelog

  • 10 Dec. 2018: Updated for Patch 8.1.
  • 27 Nov. 2018: Correction about proper Find Weakness usage.
  • 31 Aug. 2018: Added mention of Find Weakness on Priority Targets and changed formatting.
  • 27 Aug. 2018: Added openers for different scenarios in Mythic+.
  • 13 Aug. 2018: Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 11 Aug. 2018: Page added.
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