Subtlety Rogue DPS Mythic+ Tips — Shadowlands 9.0.2

Last updated on Nov 23, 2020 at 16:40 by Ashine 24 comments
General Information

In this guide, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Subtlety Rogue in World of Warcraft — Shadowlands 9.0.2.

1.

Subtlety Rogue in Mythic+

The playstyle of Subtlety in Mythic+ revolves around burst windows with damage multipliers, such as Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death and Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance, using Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm to generate more Combo Points than you normally would in a single-target scenario and spending them on different finishers, depending on the amount of targets you are fighting.

If you are unfamiliar with Mythic+ and its associated general mechanics, you can read more about it on our Shadowlands Mythic+ Season 1 page below.

2.

Subtlety Rogue Mythic+ Rotation

In most situations, the rotation is same in Mythic+ and Raiding scenarios, however there are some conditionals especially in the opener with multiple targets. This page will mostly focus on the Mythic+ conditionals, so if you are looking for full rotation, make sure to check out the Rotation page below.

Note that the openers assume you have 4+ targets; fewer than that and you will have to cast extra Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storms to generate enough Combo Points for your finishers. Do not cast finishers with less than 4 (preferably 5-6) Combo Points.

Rupture Icon Rupture and Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice are not worth casting when you have 6 or more targets, therefore they will not be accounted here. If you have less than that, maintain Slice and Dice and Rupture only on priority targets that will live long enough for the whole duration of Rupture.

2.1.

Opener Sequence on 4+ Targets

  1. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  2. Cast Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death.
  3. Cast Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique or Black Powder Icon Black Powder.
  4. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  5. Cast Black Powder Icon Black Powder.
  6. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  7. Cast Black Powder Icon Black Powder.
2.2.

Opener Sequence on Packs with a Priority Target

  1. Cast Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike.
  2. Cast Slice and Dice Icon Slice and Dice.
  3. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  4. Cast Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death.
  5. Cast Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique or Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  6. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  7. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  8. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  9. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  10. Cast Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike to maintain Find Weakness if it is about to fall off.
  11. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm and Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate on the priority target until it is killed.

Note that this is generally only better if DPS does not matter on anything but the priority target.

2.3.

Subtlety Rogue Utility

  • Shroud of Concealment Icon Shroud of Concealment provides Stealth to every nearby party member. This spell is often used to skip difficult or inefficient packs that you would otherwise have to deal with.
  • Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows, Feint Icon Feint, and Cheat Death Icon Cheat Death are a big part of what makes Rogue's good in Mythic+; their defensive abilities are the strongest in the game.
  • Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot has gained more value since Battle for Azeroth with the reduced duration on all AoE stuns. It is one of the longest stuns in the game thus making it exceptionally useful when dealing with difficult mobs.
  • Crippling Poison Icon Crippling Poison and Numbing Poison Icon Numbing Poison have their uses in Mythic+.
3.

Mythic+ Talents for Subtlety Rogues

Talents suggested below are specifically for Mythic+, and will not be the same for most Raiding encounters. Make sure to read the Talents page to find out optimal talents for each scenario.

Level Choices
15 Weaponmaster Weaponmaster Premeditation Premeditation Gloomblade Gloomblade
25 Nightstalker Nightstalker Subterfuge Subterfuge Shadow Focus Shadow Focus
30 Vigor Vigor Deeper Stratagem Deeper Stratagem Marked for Death Marked for Death
35 Soothing Darkness Soothing Darkness Cheat Death Cheat Death Elusiveness Elusiveness
40 Shot in the Dark Shot in the Dark Night Terrors Night Terrors Prey on the Weak Prey on the Weak
45 Dark Shadow Dark Shadow Alacrity Alacrity Enveloping Shadows Enveloping Shadows
50 Master of Shadows ? Master of Shadows Secret Technique Secret Technique Shuriken Tornado Shuriken Tornado
4.

Season 1 Affix: Prideful

You can use Feint Icon Feint and Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows to reduce incoming damage from Bursting With Pride Icon Bursting With Pride.

Stand still if you get the Belligerent Boast Icon Belligerent Boast debuff, as this will make it easier for others to avoid the projectiles coming from you.

5.

Tips for certain Mythic+ Affixes

  • Bolstering Icon Bolstering buffs remaining enemies Health pools and damage dealt by 20% when an enemy dies nearby. To counter this affix, DPS all mobs down evenly and focus your casts into high Health mobs if there are any. As a Subtlety Rogue, managing Bolstering will often be your main task, due to how strong Subtlety is at equalizing Health pools of mobs, mainly due to high priority damage.
  • Bursting Icon Bursting forces enemy mobs to detonate when slain, afflicting the group with a stacking debuff that causes players to suffer 10% of their max Health in damage every four seconds. Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows removes and prevents any Bursting stacks, so remember to use it when your group is about to reach high stacks. When handling the Bursting affix, ask how many stacks your healer can handle and try to not mindlessly DPS and exceed your healers stack limit.
  • Skittish Icon Skittish reduces the amount of threat generated by tanks throughout the dungeon. Use Tricks of the Trade Icon Tricks of the Trade on your tank everytime you are engaging a new mob pack or boss to help them with threat.
6.

Mythic+ Legendaries

  1. Finality Icon Finality is the best choice for Mythic+, as it is good on single-target and the best available choice for sustained AoE. On top of that, it also increases our priority damage even further.
  2. Mark of the Master Assassin Icon Mark of the Master Assassin is technically better for overall damage in Mythic+, but is weaker for single-target and priority damage, which is very important, especially with the seasonal affix Prideful Icon Prideful.

If you are looking for more detailed information regarding Legendaries, jump into our dedicated Legendary Power page below:

7.

Gear from Mythic+

When looking for upgrades, make sure to simulate your character on Raidbots, since upgrades vary on character by character basis, depending on many other factors.

You will find simulations for trinkets especially on our Gear page below to get a generic idea of what is worth looking out for.

8.

Changelog

  • 23 Nov. 2020: Added legendary recommendations for Mythic+ for release of Shadowlands.
  • 12 Oct. 2020: Page updated for the Shadowlands pre-patch.
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