Subtlety Rogue DPS Mythic+ Tips — Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.3

Last updated on Jan 13, 2020 at 19:57 by Ashine 73 comments
General Information

In this guide, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Subtlety Rogue in World of Warcraft — Battle for Azeroth (BfA) 8.3.

1.

Subtlety Rogue in Mythic+

The playstyle of Subtlety in Mythic+ stays almost the same in Battle for Azeroth. It revolves around burst windows with Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique and damage multipliers, such as Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death and Dark Shadow Icon Dark Shadow. In Battle for Azeroth, Subtlety does more AoE damage than before because of Secret Technique, but less priority damage than in Legion.

If you are unfamiliar with Mythic+ and its associated general mechanics, you can read more about it on our dedicated Mythic+ page below.

2.

Subtlety Rogue Mythic+ Rotation

For the most part, Subtlety Rogue's rotation is the same as referred in the Rotation, Cooldowns, and Abilities page, but the opener sequence changes a little bit in different scenarios.

Note that the openers assume you have 4+ targets; fewer than that and you will have to cast extra Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storms to generate enough Combo Points for your finishers. Do not cast finishers with less than 4 (preferably 5-6) Combo Points apart from your initial Nightblade Icon Nightblade in the opener.

2.1.

Opener Sequence on 4+ Targets

  1. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  2. Cast Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death.
  3. Cast Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique.
  4. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  5. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  6. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  7. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  8. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm and Nightblade Icon Nightblade and apply the Nightblade debuff to all targets that will live for the whole duration of the debuff.

If the targets are not stacked enough for Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique to hit everything, you can apply some Nightblade Icon Nightblades while waiting until all targets are in range.

2.2.

Opener Sequence on Packs with a Priority Target

  1. Cast Shadowstrike Icon Shadowstrike.
  2. Cast Nightblade Icon Nightblade.
  3. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  4. Cast Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance and Symbols of Death Icon Symbols of Death.
  5. Cast Secret Technique Icon Secret Technique.
  6. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  7. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  8. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm.
  9. Cast Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate.
  10. Cast Shuriken Storm Icon Shuriken Storm and Eviscerate Icon Eviscerate on the priority target until it is killed.

Reapplying Find Weakness Icon Find Weakness during Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance is not recommended unless you have fewer than 3 targets. Also remember to not cap on Shadow Dance Icon Shadow Dance charges.

2.3.

Subtlety Rogue Utility

  • Shroud of Concealment Icon Shroud of Concealment provides Stealth to every nearby party member. This spell is often used to skip difficult or inefficient packs that you would otherwise have to deal with.
  • Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows, Feint Icon Feint, and Cheat Death Icon Cheat Death are a big part of what makes Rogue's good in Mythic+; their defensive abilities are the strongest in the game.
  • Kidney Shot Icon Kidney Shot has gained more value in Battle for Azeroth with the reduced duration on all AoE stuns. It is one of the longest stuns in the game thus making it exceptionally useful when dealing with difficult mobs.
3.

Mythic+ Talents for Subtlety Rogues

Below are the suggested talents for Mythic+. These talents are recommended for all groups and keys at the current time.

Level Choices
15 Weaponmaster Weaponmaster Find Weakness Find Weakness Gloomblade Gloomblade
30 Nightstalker Nightstalker Subterfuge Subterfuge Shadow Focus Shadow Focus
45 Vigor Vigor Deeper Stratagem Deeper Stratagem Marked for Death Marked for Death
60 Soothing Darkness Soothing Darkness Cheat Death Cheat Death Elusiveness Elusiveness
75 Shot in the Dark Shot in the Dark Night Terrors Night Terrors Prey on the Weak Prey on the Weak
90 Dark Shadow Dark Shadow Alacrity Alacrity Enveloping Shadows Enveloping Shadows
100 Master of Shadows Master of Shadows Secret Technique Secret Technique Shuriken Tornado Shuriken Tornado
4.

Season 4 Affix: Awakened

For general information about this affix, and others, see our general Mythic+ guide (coming up very shortly).

5.

Tips for certain Mythic+ Affixes

  • Bolstering Icon Bolstering buffs remaining enemies Health pools and damage dealt by 20% when an enemy dies nearby. To counter this affix, DPS all mobs down evenly and focus your casts into high Health mobs if there are any. As a Subtlety Rogue, managing Bolstering will often be your main task, due to how strong Subtlety is at equalizing Health pools of mobs, mainly due to high priority damage.
  • Bursting Icon Bursting forces enemy mobs to detonate when slain, afflicting the group with a stacking debuff that causes players to suffer 10% of their max Health in damage every four seconds. Cloak of Shadows Icon Cloak of Shadows removes and prevents any Bursting stacks, so remember to use it when your group is about to reach high stacks. When handling the Bursting affix, ask how many stacks your healer can handle and try to not mindlessly DPS and exceed your healers stack limit.
  • Skittish Icon Skittish reduces the amount of threat generated by tanks throughout the dungeon. Use Tricks of the Trade Icon Tricks of the Trade on your tank everytime you are engaging a new mob pack or boss to help them with threat.
6.

Mythic+ Azerite Traits

To learn how different Azerite traits perform on single-target and multi-target situations, refer to the Simulations page.

7.

Changelog

  • 13 Jan. 2020: Page updated for Patch 8.3.
  • 12 Jul. 2019: Added Beguiling affix.
  • 24 Jun. 2019: This page has been reviewed for the release of Patch 8.2 and no changes are necessary.
  • 15 Apr. 2019: This page has been reviewed for Crucible of Storms and no changes are necessary.
  • 21 Jan. 2019: Updated with description of Reaping Season 2 affix.
  • 10 Dec. 2018: Updated for Patch 8.1.
  • 27 Nov. 2018: Correction about proper Find Weakness usage.
  • 31 Aug. 2018: Added mention of Find Weakness on Priority Targets and changed formatting.
  • 27 Aug. 2018: Added openers for different scenarios in Mythic+.
  • 13 Aug. 2018: Updated for Battle for Azeroth launch.
  • 11 Aug. 2018: Page added.
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