Subtlety Rogue DPS Mythic+ Tips — Shadowlands 9.0.5
In this guide, you will find tips and advice to tackle Mythic+ dungeons with your Subtlety Rogue in World of Warcraft — Shadowlands 9.0.5.
Subtlety Rogue in Mythic+
The playstyle of Subtlety in Mythic+ revolves around burst windows with damage
multipliers, such as Symbols of Death and
Shadow Dance, using
Shuriken Storm to generate more Combo Points than you normally would in
a single-target scenario and spending them on different finishers, depending on
the amount of targets you are fighting.
If you are unfamiliar with Mythic+ and its associated general mechanics, you can read more about it on our Shadowlands Mythic+ Season 1 page below.
Subtlety Rogue Mythic+ Rotation
In most situations, the rotation is same in Mythic+ and Raiding scenarios, however there are some conditionals especially in the opener with multiple targets. This page will mostly focus on the Mythic+ conditionals, so if you are looking for full rotation, make sure to check out the Rotation page below.
Note that the openers assume you have 4+ targets; fewer than that and you will
have to cast extra Shuriken Storms to generate enough Combo Points for
your finishers. Do not cast finishers with less than 4 (preferably 5-6) Combo
Points.
Rupture and
Slice and Dice are not worth casting when you have
6 or more targets, therefore they will not be accounted here. If you have less
than that, maintain Slice and Dice and Rupture only on priority targets that
will live long enough for the whole duration of Rupture.
Opener Sequence on 4+ Targets
- Cast
Shuriken Storm.
- Cast
Shadow Dance and
Symbols of Death.
- Cast
Secret Technique or
Black Powder.
- Cast
Shuriken Storm.
- Cast
Black Powder.
- Cast
Shuriken Storm.
- Cast
Black Powder.
Opener Sequence on Packs with a Priority Target
- Cast
Shadowstrike.
- Cast
Slice and Dice.
- Cast
Shuriken Storm.
- Cast
Shadow Dance and
Symbols of Death.
- Cast
Secret Technique or
Eviscerate.
- Cast
Shuriken Storm.
- Cast
Eviscerate.
- Cast
Shuriken Storm.
- Cast
Eviscerate.
- Cast
Shadowstrike to maintain Find Weakness if it is about to fall off.
- Cast
Shuriken Storm and
Eviscerate on the priority target until it is killed.
Note that this is generally only better if DPS does not matter on anything but the priority target.
Subtlety Rogue Utility
Shroud of Concealment provides Stealth to every nearby party member. This spell is often used to skip difficult or inefficient packs that you would otherwise have to deal with.
Cloak of Shadows,
Feint, and
Cheat Death are a big part of what makes Rogue's good in Mythic+; their defensive abilities are the strongest in the game.
Kidney Shot has gained more value since Battle for Azeroth with the reduced duration on all AoE stuns. It is one of the longest stuns in the game thus making it exceptionally useful when dealing with difficult mobs.
Crippling Poison and
Numbing Poison have their uses in Mythic+.
Mythic+ Talents for Subtlety Rogues
Talents suggested below are specifically for Mythic+, and will not be the same for most Raiding encounters. Make sure to read the Talents page to find out optimal talents for each scenario.
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25 |
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30 |
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35 |
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40 |
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45 |
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50 |
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Weaponmaster and
Master of Shadows are the best options
for single-target which makes them especially solid choices for
Tyrannical
weeks.
Premeditation and
Secret Technique give you little bit more
AoE damage which can be useful during
Fortified weeks.
Season 1 Affix: Prideful
You can use Feint and
Cloak of Shadows to reduce incoming
damage from
Bursting With Pride.
Stand still if you get the Belligerent Boast debuff, as this will make
it easier for others to avoid the projectiles coming from you.
Tips for certain Mythic+ Affixes
Bolstering buffs remaining enemies' Health pools and damage dealt by 20% when an enemy dies nearby. To counter this affix, DPS all mobs down evenly and focus your casts into high Health mobs if there are any. As a Subtlety Rogue, managing Bolstering will often be your main task due to how strong Subtlety is at equalizing Health pools of mobs — mainly due to high priority damage.
Bursting forces enemy mobs to detonate when slain, afflicting the group with a stacking debuff that causes players to suffer 10% of their max Health in damage every four seconds.
Cloak of Shadows removes and prevents any Bursting stacks, so remember to use it when your group is about to reach high stacks. When handling the Bursting affix, ask how many stacks your healer can handle and try to not mindlessly DPS and exceed your healers stack limit.
Skittish reduces the amount of threat generated by tanks throughout the dungeon. Use
Tricks of the Trade on your tank everytime you are engaging a new mob pack or boss to help them with threat.
Mythic+ Legendaries
Finality is the best choice for Mythic+, as it is good on single-target and the best available choice for sustained AoE. On top of that, it also increases our priority damage even further.
Mark of the Master Assassin is technically better for overall damage in Mythic+, but is weaker for single-target and priority damage, which is very important, especially with the seasonal affix
Prideful.
If you are looking for more detailed information regarding Legendaries, jump into our dedicated Legendary Power page below:
Gear from Mythic+
When looking for upgrades, make sure to simulate your character on Raidbots, since upgrades vary on character by character basis, depending on many other factors.
You will find simulations for trinkets especially on our Gear page below to get a generic idea of what is worth looking out for.
Changelog
- 09 Mar. 2021: Reviewed for Patch 9.0.5.
- 02 Mar. 2021: Updated talents and added paragraph regarding talent choices for Tyrannical and Fortified weeks.
- 23 Nov. 2020: Added legendary recommendations for Mythic+ for release of Shadowlands.
- 12 Oct. 2020: Page updated for the Shadowlands pre-patch.
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This guide has been written by Ashine. He is raiding with FatSharkYes and has been competing in the MDI for multiple years, achieving 1st place in 2018 and 3rd place in BlizzCon 2019. You can watch him play on Twitch.
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